ScummVM IRC Log - 28 Nov 2020

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[00:09] <Scummette> [scummvm] mgerhardy pushed 13 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jkd2X
[00:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master 82df68f mgerhardy: TWINE: extracted rendering types into dedicated methods
[00:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6f75c8a mgerhardy: TWINE: removed unused method parameters
[00:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7a11fb5 mgerhardy: TWINE: reduced scope
[00:09] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jkd2D
[00:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6874ea1 sev-: I18N: Update translation (Ukrainian)
[00:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master 8ca0fa3 criezy: I18N: Update translation files
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[10:03] <Scummette> [scummvm] lotharsm pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkF74
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[10:51] <grogbot> <madmoose> https://twitter.com/foone/status/1331933865670152192?s=21
[11:02] <grogbot> <antoniou79> All caps to indicate how enraging this... issue is?
[11:02] <grogbot> <antoniou79> @rootfather already responded, though.
[11:02] <grogbot> <rootfather> nah, I don't think so, the answers were pretty normal
[11:03] <grogbot> <rootfather> it was basically just being him upset about himself since he had to figure out how to patch the bundled files in the executable
[11:03] <grogbot> <rootfather> 😉
[11:03] <grogbot> <antoniou79> I still don't get what he was trying to do. If it was a bug fix, he could issue it as a PR to us. Was it just a personal mod?
[11:04] <grogbot> <rootfather> I think so, I didn't fully understand it either
[11:04] <grogbot> <rootfather> maybe some testing with the intention to get back to us later
[11:04] <grogbot> <rootfather> https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1331939659375493120
[11:04] <grogbot> <rootfather> oh well 😄
[11:05] <grogbot> <antoniou79> right. At least the compaint is valid, in that it pointed to the fact that there is redundancy in the zipped files
[11:05] <grogbot> <rootfather> yup
[11:06] <grogbot> <rootfather> maybe for buildbot I can make use of the new configure option to not embed the files into the executable
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[11:41] <grogbot> <madmoose> Foone extracts resources from games to make Death Generator: https://deathgenerator.com/
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[12:05] <grogbot> <criezy> > At least the complaint is valid, in that it pointed to the fact that there is redundancy in the zipped files To make sure I just checked the iOS and macOS daily builds from buildbot since they could potentially have the same issue. And those at least don't have the issue. They only contain the dat file embedded into the app bundle and don't contain a second set of those.
[12:17] <grogbot> <antoniou79> I think the android port does not embed them either, but I cannot be sure. They are put explicitly in the assets folder but they are not part (or do not seem to be a part of the libscummvm.so file -- how can one check for sure?)
[12:19] <grogbot> <antoniou79> However both our fonts.dat and the ultima.dat are huge compared to our other distributed dat files. One is 23MB and the other is 16MB. Together they are close to 40MBs (!)
[12:19] <grogbot> <antoniou79> I think Play Store poses a limit to the size of the uploaded apk, and we may have an issue with that in the future
[12:21] <grogbot> <rootfather> indeed, fonts.dat and ultima.dat are really too large
[12:22] <grogbot> <antoniou79> Ah, yes, more changes coming (damn you Google, why can't you keep a system unchanged for a while?) Important: In the second half of 2021, new apps will be required to publish with the Android App Bundle on Google Play. New apps larger than 150 MB must use either Play Feature Delivery or Play Asset Delivery. https://developer.android.com/google/play/expansion-files
[12:22] <grogbot> <rootfather> oof.
[12:22] <grogbot> <rootfather> "New" as in "new releases" or "new Play Store newcomers"?
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[12:40] <grogbot> <antoniou79> I guess it will be both, but I don't know. I'll look into it more when it's closer and becomes more of an urgent issue 😄
[12:40] <grogbot> <rootfather> ah yeah, google doing google stuff.
[12:40] <grogbot> <rootfather> 😄
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[13:23] <grogbot> <Henke37> either or? i thought you could use both
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[14:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master 730aae2 lotharsm: NEWS: Update German NEWS file
[14:24] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 19 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbgA
[14:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2a317b6 sev-: ADL: Use macros in detection tables
[14:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master cd7ca4d sev-: AGI: Use AD_ENTRY2s in detection table
[14:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master ae27bc6 sev-: AGOS: JANITORIAL: Whitespace fixes
[14:24] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jkbgj
[14:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master 956af76 criezy: I18N: Update translation (French)
[14:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master afa0a70 : I18N: Update translation (Japanese)
[14:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master ed5a716 criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
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[16:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] lephilousophe pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbQX
[16:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master 83b7fe0 lephilousophe: CRYOMNI3D: Don't use U32String with non UTF-32 codepoints
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[16:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbQM
[16:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master c49c83f criezy: I18N: Update translation files
[16:16] <grogbot> <timofonic> How fonts can be so big? Are there so much of them?
[16:18] <grogbot> <rootfather> There are a number of fonts in there, yes, and some of them are really massive
[16:18] <grogbot> <rootfather> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/782279321825837096/unknown.png
[16:23] <grogbot> <timofonic> Why so massive? 😮
[16:23] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> You're thinking about western scripts, thus the question how big can it be. Few dozens symols for all western languages. But think about east Asian languages, that can get pretty big...
[16:24] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> I can't even estimate how many symbols are required
[16:24] <grogbot> <timofonic> 300+ symbols per language?
[16:24] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Much much more
[16:24] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> As far as I know
[16:24] <grogbot> <timofonic> And they are bit maps...
[16:26] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Are you sure?
[16:27] <grogbot> <timofonic> Sorry, I was meant to ask. Flu vaccine made me dizzy. Vectors?
[16:29] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> https://webdesign.tutsplus.com/articles/the-complete-beginners-guide-to-chinese-fonts--cms-23444
[16:30] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Random source from Google
[16:30] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Says that Chinese needs ~20000 different glyphs. Twice! Once for traditional and once for symplified
[16:31] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> And there other east Asian systems, of course...
[16:41] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 23 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jkbbp
[16:41] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2722235 sev-: LAB: Use AD_ENTRY2s in the detection table
[16:41] <Scummette> scummvm/master f397bdd sev-: LILLUPUT: Use macros in the detection table
[16:41] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3bcff61 sev-: MADE: Add GOG.com version to detection and mark it as unsupported
[16:41] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbNJ
[16:41] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5919a62 criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
[16:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbNg
[16:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5ac5345 sev-: I18N: Update translations
[16:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbNa
[16:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master a6e595d criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
[16:46] <Dominus> while we are at it, I'm really unhappy about the two dat files. I think it's wasteful to have the zipped up files in the repository. When you change one of the Ultima files the whole ultima.dat needs to be committed. IMO it would be better to keep the files unzipped and have the build script(s) zip them as the dat
[16:47] <Dominus> but me being unhappy is not a big deal :)
[16:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbAV
[16:52] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5ebaeaf sev-: I18N: Update translation (Ukrainian)
[16:53] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbAX
[16:53] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2a8cb94 sev-: TINSEL: Added missing translation mark
[16:53] <Scummette> scummvm/master 34dcd9d sev-: I18N: Regenerate PO and POT files
[16:53] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbAy
[16:53] <Scummette> scummvm/master f6dc1c5 criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
[16:54] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbAA
[16:54] <Scummette> scummvm/master 81a07b4 sev-: GOB: More macro usage in detection tables
[16:55] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkbAh
[16:55] <Scummette> scummvm/master a984176 criezy: I18N: Update translation files
[16:55] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with c49c83f2: Failure: master-dingux, master-openpandora, master-gp2xwiz
[17:03] <grogbot> <Henke37> i echo your concerns, but in the context of mobile. file sizes matter a lot there, aparently.
[17:04] <Dominus> my concerns?
[17:05] <Dominus> if it was my concerns, I'm all for zipping it up for releases and builds but keep it unzipped in the repository
[17:05] <grogbot> <rootfather> your unhappiness 😄
[17:12] <grogbot> <trembyle> In the MADE detection tables, what is the purpose of the "installed" detection entries? This is not how any other engine handles data files, which can normally just be copied from the CD.
[17:13] <grogbot> <trembyle> If there is a benefit to giving this option, then it would be nice to add a comment explaining it.
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[17:32] <travis-ci> scummvm/scummvm#17037 (master - a984176 : Thierry Crozat): The build passed.
[17:32] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/compare/81a07b4a354d...a984176b1279
[17:32] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/scummvm/scummvm/builds/746455465
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[17:54] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with c49c83f2: Failure: master-osx_intel, master-caanoo
[17:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] criezy closed pull request #2533: MIDI: Add MT-32/GM MidiDriver (master...mididriver-mt32gm) https://git.io/JTnYk
[17:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] criezy pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNUt
[17:58] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7857df2 NMIError: MIDI: MT-32 / GM driver
[17:58] <Scummette> scummvm/master 4834651 NMIError: MIDI: Add multisource support to SMF parser
[17:58] <Scummette> scummvm/master 1bd9e61 NMIError: MIDI: Fix virtual destructor and nullptr warnings
[17:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNUY
[17:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master e48dfa4 goodoldgeorge: I18N: Update translation (Hungarian)
[17:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0e6ad93 criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
[18:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #2646: SCUMM: Allow detecting games from disabled subengines (master...scumm-detection) https://git.io/JkyIG
[18:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNTC
[18:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master 16706dc ccawley2011: SCUMM: Allow detecting games from disabled subengines
[18:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNTW
[18:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master a308150 criezy: I18N: Update translation files
[18:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master 8df3c50 criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
[18:10] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNTx
[18:10] <Scummette> scummvm/master 79ca001 sev-: SCUMM: Show compiled-in subengines
[18:11] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNkv
[18:11] <Scummette> scummvm/master d8cf0e9 criezy: I18N: Update translation files
[18:11] <Scummette> scummvm/master eb89854 criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
[18:12] <Scummette> [scummvm] criezy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNkY
[18:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master 20533b8 criezy: CRYOMNI3D: Fix compilation
[18:12] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNks
[18:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master b506cc0 sev-: I18N: Update translation (Russian)
[18:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master c21e6ba sev-: I18N: Update translation (Ukrainian)
[18:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master 94b529b criezy: I18N: Update translation files
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[18:31] <travis-ci> scummvm/scummvm#17045 (master - 94b529b : Thierry Crozat): The build passed.
[18:31] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/compare/20533b819bd5...94b529bf019d
[18:31] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/scummvm/scummvm/builds/746465880
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[18:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] ccawley2011 opened pull request #2649: GROOVIE: Allow detecting games from disabled subengines (master...groovie-detection) https://git.io/JkNqG
[18:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNqZ
[18:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5caf63f sev-: I18N: Update translation (Ukrainian)
[18:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNqB
[18:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master a00e5bf : I18N: Update translation (Portuguese (Brazil))
[18:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master 1769f7a sev-: I18N: Update translation (Russian)
[18:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master b119895 : I18N: Update translation (Japanese)
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[18:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] ccawley2011 opened pull request #2650: SAGA: Allow detecting games from disabled subengines (master...saga-detection) https://git.io/JkNYt
[19:14] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNOF
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[19:56] <Scummette> scummvm/master c874611 lotharsm: I18N: Update translation (German)
[19:56] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 9 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNnW
[19:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master a8ad61c sev-: ENGINES: Do not pass string by reference to errorUnsupportedGame()
[19:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master a4df6c4 sev-: GROOVIE: Always detect GroovieV2 games but bail out on their run
[19:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master b0af00a sev-: KYRA: Always detect subengine games but error out on attempt to run
[19:57] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNn0
[19:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master 17ce9be IlDucci: I18N: Update translation (Spanish)
[19:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master df5981b criezy: I18N: Update translation files
[19:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master abfaa2e criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
[19:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] ccawley2011 closed pull request #2649: GROOVIE: Allow detecting games from disabled subengines (master...groovie-detection) https://git.io/JkNqG
[19:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] ccawley2011 closed pull request #2650: SAGA: Allow detecting games from disabled subengines (master...saga-detection) https://git.io/JkNYt
[20:06] <grogbot> <timofonic> Would switch from zip to lz4 or zstd improve compression ratio of dat files? For exmaple...
[20:14] <grogbot> <rootfather> not sure, I think at least zstd is basically the same DEFLATE algorithm like .zip
[20:14] <grogbot> <rootfather> and stronger compression methods like LZMA2 have a much higher "decompression speed penalty"
[20:17] <grogbot> <thoth> I've heard LZ4 decompresses pretty fast.
[20:21] <grogbot> <rootfather> yes, but IIRC it doesn't have a better compression ratio than ZIP
[20:29] <eriktorbjorn> Anyone around who's familiar with the Mohawk engine?
[20:41] <eriktorbjorn> I guess not, at the moment. If anyone comes by later, https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/11954 means that Myst is pretty broken at the moment.
[20:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkN8O
[20:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6379c8a sev-: I18N: Regenerate .po files
[20:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkN83
[20:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master b19a08c criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
[20:48] <grogbot> <timofonic> Too many years and not a better algorithm than ZIP and faster? Damn...
[20:49] <grogbot> <rootfather> faster - yes, LZ4 and ZSTD are much faster, but at a cost of compression ratio
[20:50] <grogbot> <rootfather> but yup, basically all better compression algos are still slower than "default" DEFLATE.
[20:51] <grogbot> <timofonic> LZ5?
[21:00] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkN4Q
[21:00] <Scummette> scummvm/master cac5d2d sev-: I18N: Update translation (Russian)
[21:00] <Scummette> scummvm/master c08c12e sev-: I18N: Update translation (Ukrainian)
[21:03] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNBT
[21:03] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9622432 lotharsm: I18N: Update translation (German)
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[21:06] <grogbot> <rootfather> 😄
[21:06] <grogbot> <rootfather> maybe
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[21:14] <travis-ci> scummvm/scummvm#17059 (master - 9622432 : Lothar Serra Mari): The build passed.
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[21:14] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Don't hold your breath... It's a mature technology, and not expected to imrove significantly.
[21:29] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with b19a08c9: Success: master-dingux
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[22:11] <grogbot> <timofonic> @ZvikaZ It seems I saw too much science fiction then. Thanks a lot for the info!
[22:17] <grogbot> <thoth> There are limits to how good generalized compression can be.
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[22:21] <grogbot> <thoth> Any real weakness in zip is a design tradeof (like the fact that it compresses files individually rather than using a tarball or whatever 7z does). If you want a better compression factor, you need to know more about the data being compressed, accept lossy compression, or both.
[22:38] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with b19a08c9: Success: master-openpandoraFailure: master-n64
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[23:09] <clort> openpandora is too slow for decent n64 anyway
[23:19] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with b19a08c9: Success: master-gp2xwiz
[23:48] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNix
[23:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master aa0f898 sev-: TSAGE: Added support for uninstalled floppy version
[23:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master a97f66a sev-: NEWS: Mention support for uninstalled floppy Blue Force
[23:49] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/JkNip
[23:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master eb66ef2 IlDucci: I18N: Update translation (Spanish)
[23:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master 60c140f criezy: I18N: Update translation files
[23:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9ffd477 criezy: I18N: Update translations templates
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