[01:52] [discord] Should be possible, Steam does it for dotnet runtime packages [01:53] [discord] (doesn't mean that games can't include their own copies of the dotnet runtimes for some reason) [02:01] [discord] don't think that's something devs can mess with [02:01] [discord] you can either add games manually (ala retroarch) or as a compatibility tool (ala luxtorpeda, roberta, etc) [02:03] [discord] Oh yeah, not one for ScummVM devs, but having it there may mean that it's easy for publishers to add [02:56] DominusExult (~dominus@exult/developer/dominus) joined #scummvm. 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[05:57] speachy (~speachy@rockbox/developer/speachy) joined #scummvm. [06:08] speachy (~speachy@rockbox/developer/speachy) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 3.6 [06:35] eriktorbjorn (~eriktorbj@scummvm/eriktorbjorn) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:01] reset (~reset@user/reset) left irc: Quit: reset [07:36] risca (~quassel@h-155-4-197-151.A980.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:53] [discord] That would require retesting for each game before bumping, and we dont currently do testing for all games on release [09:28] BrainChild (~BrainChil@185.237.182.250) joined #scummvm. [09:35] [discord] Perhaps we could get community made "longplays" made in the autoplayer (if that's what it's called, I forgot the name) to run through with a bot come code freeze time [09:36] [discord] I think it is called "event recorder" or something like that [09:37] [discord] *That's* the name, thanks! [09:59] [discord] Maybe we could make use of Steams "beta" feature, but other than our user base is our testers -- probably not everyone will be understanding of this, but it's kind of how it works. [10:00] [discord] However, thinking about it, having a separate forum on Steam and reviews.... I don't know. Too much segmentation, and there's a couple of users on Steam (that I've spotted anyway) that are very adamant about hating on ScummVM. [10:01] [discord] Maybe it's better to leave well enough alone. [10:27] [discord] Who out there is adamant about hating on scummvm just curious [10:32] [discord] nah, better not go into it. There's not much point. [10:33] [discord] Interesting im just weirded out there is an active group out there with a vendetta against a niche computer project [10:36] [discord] I wouldn't call them a "group" 🙂 [10:38] [discord] 🤔 [10:39] [discord] Oh, read Android reviews, you will have a revelation [10:39] [discord] Oh, read Android 1* reviews, you will have a revelation (edited) [10:40] [discord] Not to be dismissive but the google play store is a cesspit of trolls, bots and other weird oddities [10:40] [discord] Dont expect actual constructive opinions from there [10:44] [discord] is Steam really better? [10:45] [discord] No not really but i dont care about the platform itself its just nice having everything in one place that auto updates by itself and manages game files for me [10:45] [discord] I know i can just link scummvm to steam but official integration is better so it auto updates on its own [10:47] [discord] well, frankly speaking, we wanted for a while to go to Steam, just there is nobody to do that work [10:48] [discord] we even trying to have it in GSoC for couple of years: [10:48] [discord] not a single application, though [10:48] TMM_ (hp@amanda.tmm.cx) left irc: Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. [10:48] TMM_ (hp@amanda.tmm.cx) joined #scummvm. [10:51] [discord] every platform with mass exposure will have haters and just bored people. the people who enjoy the product tend not to leave comments. 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[12:51] #scummvm: mode change '+o digitall' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat [12:54] Big Beef / Bluddy: Just my opinion, but I think apart from the normal trolls, bots and general haters, I think there are probably two groups who complain about ScummVM used in retrogame releases... [12:55] The first complain about regressions or glitches compared to the original... which we can fix, but they rarely provide bug artifacts and normally those bugs are nasty / hard to fix [12:56] The second want to play the game with the original executable on their original 90s era PC / Mac etc. and the re-release has removed the original binary and replaced with ScummVM [12:57] This is similar to the issue with remastered versions replacing the original releases in GOG and similar. [12:58] I would hope that GOG and similar would provide the original binaries / versions so that people who want the full original experience can do that... but that isn't in our control. [13:00] Overall, we can't really do much about either of these groups' complaints. The complaints really should be levelled to the publisher / game store to include the original binaries and to do some playtesting / bug fixes and upstream these :) [13:00] Anyway, just my opinion :) [13:01] And with that, back to work for me as lunch is over :) ttfn [13:01] digitall (digitall@scummvm/digitall) left #scummvm (Leaving). [13:12] ldevulder (~ldevulder@2a01:e0a:4f3:5890:ce2d:e0ff:fe68:3ff5) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:14] speachy (~speachy@gw-tf.shaftnet.org) joined #scummvm. [13:14] speachy (~speachy@gw-tf.shaftnet.org) left irc: Changing host [13:14] speachy (~speachy@rockbox/developer/speachy) joined #scummvm. [13:18] ldevulder (~ldevulder@2a01:e0a:4f3:5890:ce2d:e0ff:fe68:3ff5) joined #scummvm. 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