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[01:52] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Should be possible, Steam does it for dotnet runtime packages
[01:53] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> (doesn't mean that games can't include their own copies of the dotnet runtimes for some reason)
[02:01] <grogbot> [discord] <SupSuper> don't think that's something devs can mess with
[02:01] <grogbot> [discord] <SupSuper> you can either add games manually (ala retroarch) or as a compatibility tool (ala luxtorpeda, roberta, etc)
[02:03] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Oh yeah, not one for ScummVM devs, but having it there may mean that it's easy for publishers to add
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[03:17] <Scummette> [scummvm] Die4Ever pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/IkIpEz
[03:17] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3f1fff1 Die4Ever: GROOVIE: fix subtitle filenames to match 25th Annv Edition
[03:35] <Scummette> [scummvm] Die4Ever pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Ad2f9L
[03:35] <Scummette> scummvm/master 92601af Die4Ever: GROOVIE: fix T7G modern save/load with farewell, bug #13923
[03:54] <Scummette> [scummvm] Die4Ever pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/wYwa3F
[03:54] <Scummette> scummvm/master 1b160fd Die4Ever: GROOVIE: fix detection for T11H extras by simplifying detection for Souped Up, bug #13888
[03:54] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/UVfDi9
[03:54] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0650455 : I18N: Update translations templates
[03:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/5Cg0qI
[03:58] <Scummette> scummvm/master e38483d dreammaster: DEVTOOLS: CREATE_ENGINE: Add feature flags for creation date and playtime
[03:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/IngRP0
[03:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7416d44 : I18N: Update translation files
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[07:53] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> That would require retesting for each game before bumping, and we dont currently do testing for all games on release
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[09:35] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Perhaps we could get community made "longplays" made in the autoplayer (if that's what it's called, I forgot the name) to run through with a bot come code freeze time
[09:36] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> I think it is called "event recorder" or something like that
[09:37] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> *That's* the name, thanks!
[09:59] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> Maybe we could make use of Steams "beta" feature, but other than our user base is our testers -- probably not everyone will be understanding of this, but it's kind of how it works.
[10:00] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> However, thinking about it, having a separate forum on Steam and reviews.... I don't know. Too much segmentation, and there's a couple of users on Steam (that I've spotted anyway) that are very adamant about hating on ScummVM.
[10:01] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> Maybe it's better to leave well enough alone.
[10:27] <grogbot> [discord] <Big Beef> Who out there is adamant about hating on scummvm just curious
[10:32] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> nah, better not go into it. There's not much point.
[10:33] <grogbot> [discord] <Big Beef> Interesting im just weirded out there is an active group out there with a vendetta against a niche computer project
[10:36] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> I wouldn't call them a "group" 🙂
[10:38] <grogbot> [discord] <Big Beef> 🤔
[10:39] <grogbot> [discord] <sev> Oh, read Android reviews, you will have a revelation
[10:39] <grogbot> [discord] <sev> Oh, read Android 1* reviews, you will have a revelation (edited)
[10:40] <grogbot> [discord] <Big Beef> Not to be dismissive but the google play store is a cesspit of trolls, bots and other weird oddities
[10:40] <grogbot> [discord] <Big Beef> Dont expect actual constructive opinions from there
[10:44] <grogbot> [discord] <sev> is Steam really better?
[10:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Big Beef> No not really but i dont care about the platform itself its just nice having everything in one place that auto updates by itself and manages game files for me
[10:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Big Beef> I know i can just link scummvm to steam but official integration is better so it auto updates on its own
[10:47] <grogbot> [discord] <sev> well, frankly speaking, we wanted for a while to go to Steam, just there is nobody to do that work
[10:48] <grogbot> [discord] <sev> we even trying to have it in GSoC for couple of years: <https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=Summer_of_Code/GSoC_Ideas_2022#Automated_system_for_packaging_freeware_games_with_ScummVM>
[10:48] <grogbot> [discord] <sev> not a single application, though
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[10:51] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> every platform with mass exposure will have haters and just bored people. the people who enjoy the product tend not to leave comments.
[10:51] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> no need to worry about it
[10:56] <grogbot> [discord] <Big Beef> This tbh
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[12:54] <digitall> Big Beef / Bluddy: Just my opinion, but I think apart from the normal trolls, bots and general haters, I think there are probably two groups who complain about ScummVM used in retrogame releases...
[12:55] <digitall> The first complain about regressions or glitches compared to the original... which we can fix, but they rarely provide bug artifacts and normally those bugs are nasty / hard to fix
[12:56] <digitall> The second want to play the game with the original executable on their original 90s era PC / Mac etc. and the re-release has removed the original binary and replaced with ScummVM
[12:57] <digitall> This is similar to the issue with remastered versions replacing the original releases in GOG and similar.
[12:58] <digitall> I would hope that GOG and similar would provide the original binaries / versions so that people who want the full original experience can do that... but that isn't in our control.
[13:00] <digitall> Overall, we can't really do much about either of these groups' complaints. The complaints really should be levelled to the publisher / game store to include the original binaries and to do some playtesting / bug fixes and upstream these :)
[13:00] <digitall> Anyway, just my opinion :)
[13:01] <digitall> And with that, back to work for me as lunch is over :) ttfn
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[20:47] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/nPnsQZ
[20:47] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2de9e96 lotharsm: I18N: Update translation (German)
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