ScummVM IRC Log - 23 Jan 2021

[Back to Index]

[00:21] <grogbot> <PurpleMoustache> FF remastered is on game pass right now, if you have a dollar you can get a month
[00:24] <grogbot> <PurpleMoustache> as far as I'm aware the only real new things are the art and audio, which is given a 7.1 mix, as well as the customary special edition/remastered commentary track
[00:30] <grogbot> <GeekOB> Oh yes, there's other extras like artwork too
[00:53] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #2730: BACKENDS: search also for track_x and track_xx audio cd tracks (master...pr/audio-cd-file-pattern) https://git.io/JtfXX
[00:53] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jt3N0
[00:53] <Scummette> scummvm/master f5164c9 mgerhardy: BACKENDS: search also for track_x and track_xx audio cd tracks
[00:59] <-- L0ngcat_ left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[00:59] <-- marcusr_ left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[01:34] <grogbot> <trembyle> I just saw the commit to accommodate track_x and track_xx for CD audio track names.
[01:34] <grogbot> <trembyle> One thing that would be nice is to allow the tracks starting with track2 instead of track1.
[01:35] <grogbot> <trembyle> I find I always rip tracks from my discs and then subtract 1 from the track numbers. Does anyone else have that issue?
[01:57] <grogbot> <SupSuper> how would you know which convention to use?
[02:18] <grogbot> <trembyle> Maybe a gui option? Or at least a console option.
[02:18] <grogbot> <trembyle> When starting from the cmd line
[02:19] <grogbot> <trembyle> Or is it fair to assume that when 2 is the lowest number to use that convention?
[02:32] <grogbot> <trembyle> Could I ask what software people use to rip tracks that defaults to track1? I'm confused at how we arrived at that convention in the first place.
[02:33] <grogbot> <trembyle> I know that I can set a default starting track with abcde in linux, but I can't imagine that everyone is using that.
[02:33] <grogbot> <trembyle> Did you all just write scripts to renumber the starting track to track1? Or are people doing it manually?
[02:40] <grogbot> <SupSuper> i thought they always started at 02, at least all the digital releases do
[02:40] <grogbot> <SupSuper> maybe there's engines that need data track 1?
[02:41] <grogbot> <trembyle> All of my files for every engine start at track1.flac, which is really track 2 on the disc.
[02:42] <grogbot> <trembyle> Do you have an example engine that doesn't require that?
[02:43] <grogbot> <Henke37> it depends on the cd authoring i think. multiple sessions can make things complicated.
[02:43] <grogbot> <trembyle> You mean like a Hybrid Mac/Windows disc with more than one file system?
[02:43] <grogbot> <trembyle> As far as I know, most of those are still on Session 1
[02:45] kopimisti[m] --> (kopimistim@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-micgnyeucgrmxywe) joined #scummvm.
[02:45] <-- SylvainTV left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds
[02:45] <grogbot> <Henke37> any cd can use multiple sessions. whether or not it's a good idea i don't know.
[02:45] --> SylvainTV joined #scummvm.
[02:45] #scummvm: mode change '+o SylvainTV' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[02:47] <grogbot> <trembyle> That might be over-complicating things. AFAIK, for games that use red book audio, you put the CD in a regular CD player, and the music starts at Track 2.
[02:47] <grogbot> <Henke37> that's the most common configuration yes
[02:48] <grogbot> <trembyle> Shouldn't the most common configuration be the standard that's supported?
[02:49] <grogbot> <trembyle> I still would like to know how people are ripping their discs, and if everyone has written a custom script to renumber tracks (in the most common configuration).
[02:49] <-- L0ngcat left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[02:49] <-- marcusr left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[02:49] --> L0ngcat joined #scummvm.
[02:49] <grogbot> <SupSuper> from what i can tell it's the engine that specifies the track number, so probably some expect starting at 01, some at 02, and it might need to be standardized
[02:50] <grogbot> <trembyle> agreed
[02:50] <grogbot> <trembyle> At least, I always assumed that they needed to start with track1, so I would set up my game files in that way.
[02:50] <grogbot> <Henke37> meanwhile the actual hardware api uses the real track numbers on the cd
[02:50] --> marcusr joined #scummvm.
[02:51] <grogbot> <trembyle> Is there a good way to search across engine code to see what initial track number is expected?
[02:52] <grogbot> <SupSuper> they just specify "track #", they don't look for "tracks starting at #"
[02:52] <grogbot> <trembyle> Good point. It would have to, or you'd would destroy headphone users as soon as track 1 is called.
[02:52] --> DominusExult joined #scummvm.
[02:52] <-- DominusExult left irc: Changing host
[02:52] --> DominusExult joined #scummvm.
[02:52] <grogbot> <SupSuper> you'll just have to look for uses of AudioCDManager. do you have any examples starting at 1?
[02:52] <grogbot> <trembyle> sci, groovie
[02:53] <grogbot> <trembyle> gob
[02:54] <grogbot> <trembyle> made
[02:55] <-- Dominus left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[02:55] Nick change: DominusExult -> Dominus
[02:56] <grogbot> <trembyle> Do you have any examples starting at 2?
[02:56] <grogbot> <SupSuper> the newest one you just mentioned, twine, since it's to support the digital rereleases
[02:58] <grogbot> <trembyle> Ah, got it
[02:59] <grogbot> <SupSuper> i do see a lot of comments like: // HACK: For now, just assume that track number is right // That only works because ScummVM uses the wrong track number anyway
[02:59] <grogbot> <SupSuper> // Subtract one from track. KQ6 starts at track 1, while ScummVM // ignores the data track and considers track 2 to be track 1.
[03:00] <grogbot> <SupSuper> every engine has some -1 or +1, quite a mess
[03:01] <grogbot> <SupSuper> probably depending on which version they were trying to support, ost remasters, digital rips, etc
[03:31] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JtsTZ
[03:31] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5223924 OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA8: Clean up bordered ttf font rendering
[03:41] <-- L0ngcat left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[03:41] <-- marcusr left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[03:42] --> L0ngcat joined #scummvm.
[03:42] --> marcusr joined #scummvm.
[04:02] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JtskV
[04:02] <Scummette> scummvm/master 61b4ff4 OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA8: Fixes to clean up for bordered ttf font rendering
[04:24] <-- JohnnyonFlame left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds
[04:58] <-- TMM left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds
[04:58] --> TMM joined #scummvm.
[04:58] #scummvm: mode change '+o TMM' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[05:28] <-- cd left irc: Quit: cd
[06:06] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 5223924d: Failure: master-amigaos4
[06:24] <-- SylvainTV left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[06:24] --> SylvainTV joined #scummvm.
[06:24] #scummvm: mode change '+o SylvainTV' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[06:46] <-- delacroix left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
[06:49] --> delacroix joined #scummvm.
[07:01] --> Begasus joined #scummvm.
[07:17] <Scummette> [scummvm] BeWorld2018 opened pull request #2740: MORPHOS: Added CAMD MIDI driver support (master...camd) https://git.io/Jtsmx
[07:45] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 61b4ff45: Success: master-amigaos4
[08:50] --> NULUSIOS1 joined #scummvm.
[08:56] <-- eriktorbjorn left irc: Quit: Leaving.
[09:03] ahti[m] (ahtimozill@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ujepntcfccwxwund) got netsplit.
[09:05] ahti[m] (ahtimozill@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ujepntcfccwxwund) returned to #scummvm.
[09:08] kopimisti[m] <-- (kopimistim@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-micgnyeucgrmxywe) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds
[09:08] LePhilousophe[m] <-- (valemboi20@amsn/developer/lephilousophe) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds
[09:08] <-- kevinalphajameso left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds
[09:08] oldgrowth[m] <-- (oldgrowthm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-iurstepmqgyrtswq) left irc: Ping timeout: 243 seconds
[09:08] zenoquinn[m] <-- (zenoquinnm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-tuamqqlhmqtodlmo) left irc: Ping timeout: 243 seconds
[09:09] <-- hein left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds
[09:11] ahti[m] <-- (ahtimozill@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ujepntcfccwxwund) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds
[09:37] LePhilousophe[m] --> (valemboi20@amsn/developer/lephilousophe) joined #scummvm.
[09:37] #scummvm: mode change '+o LePhilousophe[m]' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[09:37] kopimisti[m] --> (kopimistim@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ywukxmfsompnycpl) joined #scummvm.
[09:37] --> kevinalphajameso joined #scummvm.
[09:44] --> hein joined #scummvm.
[09:48] --> Shine joined #scummvm.
[09:54] LePhilousophe[m] <-- (valemboi20@amsn/developer/lephilousophe) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds
[09:54] <-- kevinalphajameso left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds
[09:54] <-- hein left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
[09:54] kopimisti[m] <-- (kopimistim@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ywukxmfsompnycpl) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds
[09:56] --> ajax16384 joined #scummvm.
[09:56] #scummvm: mode change '+o ajax16384' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[10:08] --> JohnnyonFlame joined #scummvm.
[10:16] oldgrowth[m] --> (oldgrowthm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ncxuoemipbordaar) joined #scummvm.
[10:25] --> hein joined #scummvm.
[10:25] ahti[m] --> (ahtimozill@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jzcofzhdeuylaamy) joined #scummvm.
[10:25] --> kevinalphajameso joined #scummvm.
[10:25] kopimisti[m] --> (kopimistim@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-etxnnbzggaanlswu) joined #scummvm.
[10:25] LePhilousophe[m] --> (valemboi20@amsn/developer/lephilousophe) joined #scummvm.
[10:25] #scummvm: mode change '+o LePhilousophe[m]' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[10:25] zenoquinn[m] --> (zenoquinnm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-cwzlxleyarfmmsdx) joined #scummvm.
[10:47] <-- ldevulder_ left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds
[12:32] --> ldevulder joined #scummvm.
[13:47] <kopimisti[m]> is this an official channel for ScummVM project?
[13:51] <-- palasso left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[13:53] --> palasso joined #scummvm.
[13:53] <LePhilousophe> it is
[13:55] <kopimisti[m]> great! the ScummVM logo for room's avatar would be awesome 😍
[13:56] <LePhilousophe[m]> it's a bridged room to IRC
[13:57] <LePhilousophe[m]> chat mostly occurs on discord (though I am on the 3 networks)
[13:57] <LePhilousophe[m]> discord is bridged to IRC too
[13:58] <kopimisti[m]> Yeh i see. Its those little things tho.... Matrix / Element is gaining ground and i was surprised to see no logo
[14:13] <kopimisti[m]> Oh yes!! Now we're talkin' 😍 -such a great logo, too
[14:50] --> cd joined #scummvm.
[15:17] <-- Deledrius left irc: Quit: App.Exit
[15:38] --> ny00123 joined #scummvm.
[15:49] <-- JohnnyonFlame left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
[15:50] --> JohnnyonFlame joined #scummvm.
[16:09] --> Deledrius joined #scummvm.
[16:56] <Scummette> [scummvm] AndywinXp opened pull request #2741: SCUMM: Digital iMUSE: fix FT crash and music breaking bug (master...iMUSE-urgentfix) https://git.io/JtsVX
[17:06] --> grogbot3 joined #scummvm.
[17:07] <-- grogbot left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[17:07] Nick change: grogbot3 -> grogbot
[17:45] <-- Begasus left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat
[17:54] --> eriktorbjorn joined #scummvm.
[17:54] #scummvm: mode change '+o eriktorbjorn' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[17:56] <eriktorbjorn> Anyone around who's familiar with the Riven part of the Mohawk engine, and/or the video decoder? It looks to me like when a video is looping, there's a very brief delay (perhaps just one frame of the movie?) before it starts over at the beginning.
[17:59] <eriktorbjorn> Perhaps most noticeable on the spinning domes in Riven, e.g. start a new game, open the debugger and type "changeCard 384" for one example.
[18:09] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JtsKE
[18:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master f012a54 : I18N: Update translation (Belarusian (Taraakievica) (be-tarask))
[20:32] zenoquinn[m] (zenoquinnm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-cwzlxleyarfmmsdx) left #scummvm ("User left").
[20:41] <-- palasso left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds
[20:44] <-- ajax16384 left irc: Quit: Leaving
[20:52] --> palasso joined #scummvm.
[21:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy opened pull request #2742: GRAPHICS: Improve TTF rendering on transparent surfaces. (master...transparent-ttf) https://git.io/JtsSs
[21:15] <-- Shine left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[21:22] <-- Cheeseness left irc: Quit: Leaving.
[21:25] --> Cheeseness joined #scummvm.
[22:13] <-- ny00123 left irc: Quit: Leaving
[22:23] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JtsQx
[22:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master 8483d7e : I18N: Update translation (Belarusian (Taraakievica) (be-tarask))
[22:27] --> Shine joined #scummvm.
[22:38] <-- Shine left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[23:06] --> Shine joined #scummvm.
[23:18] <-- Shine left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[23:31] <-- Lightkey left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
[23:44] --> Lightkey joined #scummvm.
[00:00] --- Sun Jan 24 2021