ScummVM IRC Log - 22 May 2024

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[00:00] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> What about Shadowgate 65
[00:00] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> What about Shadowgate 64 (edited)
[00:01] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Would be neat after the MacVenture engine is finished
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[00:15] <Scummette> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/gn9gx6
[00:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2c832ed digitall: DIRECTOR: Fix Signed vs. Unsigned Comparison GCC Compiler Warnings
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[00:38] <Scummette> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/sBw1Uh
[00:38] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6e3f4af digitall: DIRECTOR: Fix Enumeration Value Type Mismatch GCC Compiler Warning
[00:47] <Scummette> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/UWcrWP
[00:47] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0d3cdd3 digitall: DIRECTOR: Fix Memset On Non-Trivial Structure GCC Compiler Warning
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[02:44] <grogbot> [discord] <thormode9> I wonder if Timelapse would ever be a possibility on ScummVM
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[04:08] <grogbot> [discord] <dreammaster> https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/help/faq.html#will-scummvm-support-other-games-in-the-future
[05:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] larsamannen opened pull request #5806: Draft: IOS7: Metal part deux (master...ls_metal_part2) https://is.gd/Lk9cne
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[07:03] <grogbot> [discord] <strangerke> it seems nobody mentions Blue Ice despite some devs have a burning passion for it
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[07:18] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/MPqYNw
[07:18] <Scummette> scummvm/master 62f9284 Strangerke: BAGEL: Fix a couple of potential memory leaks in CBagMovieObject, remove a useless part of a check (mention by PVS Studio)
[07:32] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/9ZpJ7Y
[07:32] <Scummette> scummvm/master c333222 Strangerke: BAGEL: Remove scrollDown, change the definition of fadeLines and scrollUp in order to remove the unused parameters, clean the implementation
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[09:31] <grogbot> [discord] <thormode9> Ah I see, source code and interest would be the issue. I'm sure it's compatible. Thanks!
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[11:12] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> oh, pokemon RPGs....
[11:12] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> those are disassembled and reimplemented now
[11:12] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> but this could be one of the most dangerous franchise in the industry. I would not poke it with a 10 foot pole
[11:13] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> Nintendo + Niantic. Those folks are very protective

[11:19] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> We should call the release after that engine "What Could Possibly Go Wrong"
[11:19] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> 😄
[11:20] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> but I don't want to explain the nintendo lawyers what we are doing. They'd probably not understand a thing
[11:20] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> bold of you to assume you'd survive to release 😛
[11:21] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> hehe
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[11:21] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> I still don't get why they release their entire library of GB, GBC and GBA on the switch in the e-shop, they'd make a shitload of money
[11:21] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> but hey
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[11:24] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> Maybe create a fork especially for that and call it ScummVM-Yolo?
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[11:32] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> WeAreNotScummVMWhyAreYouAsking-Yolo
[11:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/vNUXtt
[11:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0e563b0 CloneWith: I18N: Update translation (Chinese (Simplified))
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[13:15] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/UiIrs9
[13:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master c41087c sev-: DIRECTOR: DEBUGGER: Improved row header indentation in Score window
[13:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7ef89c0 sev-: DIRECTOR: Silence the warning in a different way when clearing a struct
[13:15] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/tvAT3E
[13:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master c3c1fb7 : I18N: Update translation files
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[13:51] <Scummette> [scummvm] moralrecordings opened pull request #5807: DIRECTOR: Fixes for Virtual Nightclub (master...xtra) https://is.gd/2ZZGal
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[14:22] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> CleanVM
[14:36] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> MrProperVM
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[14:49] <grogbot> [discord] <thothxv> Why make people buy a product from you when you can get them to pay monthly for it?
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[15:24] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #5807: DIRECTOR: Fixes for Virtual Nightclub (master...xtra) https://is.gd/2ZZGal
[15:24] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 14 new commits to master: https://is.gd/DiLZSq
[15:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5051d1f moralrecordings: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Fix list handler override bodge
[15:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9e76421 moralrecordings: DIRECTOR: Enable built-in debug logging in Virtual Nightclub
[15:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master 49a4648 moralrecordings: DIRECTOR: Force Lctx loading after other resources
[15:33] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/V9ZjnI
[15:33] <Scummette> scummvm/master 72b6d90 sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGOTESTS: Fix reference.lingo test, wrapped compile-only tests
[15:35] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #5804: Various GLK detection tables updates (master...GLK_DetectionTables) https://is.gd/jbfWqR
[15:35] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/XguXri
[15:35] <Scummette> scummvm/master be9f352 MarcoBorrini99: GLK: ZCODE: Adds about 200 new entries
[15:35] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3b75940 MarcoBorrini99: GLK: GLULX: Adds about 80 new entries
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[16:34] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> that's a good point
[16:34] <grogbot> [discord] <rootfather> KLEEN!
[18:54] <Scummette> [scummvm] scemino pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/6p5EdL
[18:54] <Scummette> scummvm/master 4bb750b scemino: DIRECTOR: Add more syntax highlighting
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[19:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 23 new commits to master: https://is.gd/IkS9Zs
[19:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master a3e95db sev-: DIRECTOR: Added README to Lingo Decoder and relevant license file
[19:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master f070a10 sev-: DEVTOOLS: Fix release check for new arrangement for dat files
[19:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master c42742d sev-: DISTS: Added missing references to bagel.dat
[19:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/7gghgl
[19:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 71ba8eb : I18N: Update translations templates
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[20:35] <Scummette> [scummvm] meekee7 opened pull request #5808: MTROPOLIS: add fade, Navigate, OpenTitle, Print modifiers (master...mtropo-standard-plugins) https://is.gd/yDg0CS
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[20:45] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/vp8P7p
[20:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6bd740d sev-: DEVTOOLS: Added bagel.dat and nancy.dat prerelease checks
[20:45] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/SDcYzc
[20:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 324cea5 : I18N: Update translation files
[20:46] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/DoSopQ
[20:46] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6b4e3dc sev-: DEVTOOLS: Sort engines alphabetically in prerelease checks
[21:13] <Scummette> [scummvm] scemino pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/76Nf9y
[21:13] <Scummette> scummvm/master c5f71f4 scemino: DIRECTOR: In script code make variables watchable
[21:13] <Scummette> scummvm/master d9b4e42 scemino: DIRECTOR: Fix spacing in syntax highlighting
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[21:48] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> That's what Adobe said
[21:49] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Greetings, I have a localization question: what kind of characters are being referred to in here? https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/blob/master/engines/ags/engine/ac/listbox.cpp#L78
[21:49] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Are these characters from the story or text characters, as in, encoding-related?
[21:52] <grogbot> [discord] <dreammaster> They mean story characters.
[21:53] <grogbot> [discord] <dreammaster> Quest for Glory 1 lets you export your character when you finish the game, including all it's magic spells, statistics, etc. and import it into QFG2. That's a workaround to allow Quest for Glory 2 VGA remake done in AGS to do likewise
[21:53] <grogbot> [discord] <dreammaster> Quest for Glory 1 lets you export your character when you finish the game, including all it's magic spells, statistics, etc. and import it into QFG2. That's a workaround to explain Quest for Glory 2 VGA remake done in AGS is doing likewise (edited)
[21:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/8IuVyp
[21:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master a864f76 IlDucci: I18N: Update translation (Spanish)
[22:27] <Scummette> [scummvm] MarcoBorrini99 opened pull request #5809: AGI: Adds updated versions for "Enclosure" and "Voodoo Girl" (master...AGI_NewVersionEntries) https://is.gd/XvdpLF
[22:35] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> And then Nintendo sues ScummVM into oblivion.
[22:35] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> And then Nintendo would sue ScummVM into oblivion. (edited)
[22:36] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> Nintendo is very litigious and goes after anyone who reverse engineers their games.
[22:38] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> Nintendo is very litigious and goes after anyone who reverse engineers their games. ScummVM should put in their documentation that it will not add any support for Nintendo's IPs whatsoever.
[22:38] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> You don't want to be taken to the cleaners by Nintendo's lawyers.
[22:40] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> Nintendo is very litigious and goes after anyone who reverse engineers their games. ScummVM should put in their documentation that it will not add any support for Nintendo's IPs whatsoever. You don't want to be taken to the cleaners by Nintendo's lawyers. (edited)
[22:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/9ddg0C
[22:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master 52fcf3e Strangerke: BAGEL: Fix some more PVS Studio issues, add some missing override keywords
[22:45] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/aY81J3
[22:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 06227c2 : I18N: Update translation files
[22:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @thebigcore Maybe, but I wouldn't give unsolicited legal advice since that can get you into worse trouble... hence IANAL.
[22:46] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> feel like writing "i am not committing crimes please don't sue" is begging more questions than it answers 😛
[22:46] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> Let's not do that, maybe 😂
[22:47] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Also, I think you should look at the project history since that ship already sailed i.e. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/01/maniac-tentacle-mindbenders-of-atlantis-how-scummvm-kept-adventure-gaming-alive/4/
[22:47] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta

[22:47] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> exactly
[22:50] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> i don't think anyone here is entirely serious 😛 and console games are much harder to support in general, since they aren't just files you can just swap the executable
[22:50] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/n6Fmxt
[22:50] <Scummette> scummvm/master 988dbf3 sev-: DIRECTOR: DEBUGGER: Restrict max number of columns to 511
[22:50] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> It's not legal advice. It's called CYA.
[22:52] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Sigh. You should look up the concept of Mens Rea for a start.
[22:53] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> why do you want us to put it into documentation?
[22:53] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> Nevermind.
[22:55] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> @thebigcore there is no way to delete messages from general, they stay via the IRC bridge
[22:56] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> ah
[22:56] <grogbot> [discord] <thebigcore> On the discord side, you can though.
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[23:27] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/aqEJK1
[23:27] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3c23e9e sev-: DIRECTOR: DEBUGGER: Added navigation buttons to script window
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