ScummVM IRC Log - 13 May 2024

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[01:04] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Note that that Macromedia logo is a sign that it probably used Director 6 or later as they introduced it in 1997. Currently supported are Director <= 4 and preliminary support for 5. Earlier Director titles used thos logo
[01:04] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1239382667917525002/image0.jpg?ex=6642b88e&is=6641670e&hm=1cfc3f7a78bae0d1618ff13c21da9c51959a85dffa45914d78564a75d8e9b3b5&
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[05:04] <ScummBot> Build [#956](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/builders/159/builds/956) of `daily-master` completed successfully.
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[06:48] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 13 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Eif1EB
[06:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master be6399d bluegr: WINTERMUTE: Remove superfluous void in functions with no parameters
[06:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7c76251 bluegr: WATCHMAKER: Remove superfluous void in functions with no parameters
[06:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master d2bc3ae bluegr: ULTIMA: NUVIE: Remove empty protected sections
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[06:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/eTg5Rw
[06:52] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7267501 bluegr: EFH: Handle strings as Common::String references
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[07:38] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Ah okay neat!
[07:39] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Definitely report it as a bug if it's not detected though
[08:07] <grogbot> [discord] --> <robospongie> joined I'm not tech savvy but it's really neat to see a lot of tech talk on this server! 🙇 @
[08:10] <grogbot> [discord] --> <robospongie> joined I'm not tech savvy it's just really neat to see a lot of tech talk on this server! 🙇 @ (edited)
[08:10] <grogbot> [discord] --> <robospongie> joined I'm not tech savvy, it's just really neat to see a lot of tech talk on this server! 🙇 @ (edited)
[08:10] <grogbot> [discord] --> <robospongie> joined I'm not tech savvy but it's just really neat to see a lot of tech talk on this server! 🙇 @ (edited)
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[09:30] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> I guess other than that really happy Zoom Platform is re-releasing a lot of games I grew up playing some got ported to steam hopefully more get ported over there
[09:34] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> I don't know about that TBH. I know at least one case where a game was pulled from steam just to become a Zoom-exclusive (and later added back to Steam - probably after some protest)
[09:35] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> A Vampyre Story, it came back to steam lately with improved fixes
[09:35] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> yup that was it
[09:35] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Zoom took off then brought it back
[09:35] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Zoom took it off then brought it back (edited)
[09:36] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Seems like they're trying to port over more titles to steam
[09:36] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> DRM-free publications of old games, fine.
[09:36] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> Exclusives - no thanks
[09:37] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> I don't want yet another launcher 😄
[09:37] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Yeah same boat when it comes to PC games I'm fine with just Steam and EA app
[09:38] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> I guess other than that happy to see the Arthur games I grew up playing is on steam now
[09:39] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Makes me wonder if they'll tackle other broderbund titles
[09:40] <grogbot> [discord] <codengine_de> Do they actively maintain the games in that it runs on modern systems, like gog does?
[09:40] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Not sure not super familiar with Zoom platform
[09:42] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Oh awesome they got the Jumpstart games I grew up playing too
[09:46] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Now if only there's re-release of the Zoombinis trilogy, I know there's a remastered version of Logical Journey on steam but I heard it has some kinda annoying bugs and no option to switch to the classic art style
[09:46] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Now if only there's re-release of the Zoombinis trilogy, I know there's a remastered version of Logical Journey on steam but I heard it has some kinda annoying bugs and no option to switch to the classic art style etc (edited)
[09:49] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> I would love a re-release of the Zoombinis trilogy, I know there's a remastered version of Logical Journey on steam but I heard it has some kinda annoying bugs and no option to switch to the classic art style etc (edited)
[09:56] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> seems like it, they have the usual patches and wrappers
[09:59] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> That's good to hear!
[09:59] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> I used to use GOG until more of their exclusives arrived to steam
[09:59] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Like Creatures series was GOG exclusive until it got re-released on steam
[10:12] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> Zoom platform do not have a launcher. It is like early GOG, just download DRM-free game
[10:17] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Oh cool!
[10:39] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/9QcE6f
[10:39] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6fff4be sev-: DIRECTOR: Added debug traces on movie unloading
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[11:56] <Scummette> [scummvm] Vissery opened pull request #5784: SCUMM HE: Backyard Baseball 2001 competitive changes (master...baseball-01-comp-mods) https://is.gd/3SKclg
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[14:25] <grogbot> [discord] <whiterakogis> Yes. I loved the original zoombinis and was a Kickstarter backer for the remake. It was disappointing. Many bugs. Still have the disc for the original, wish I could get that running.
[14:27] <grogbot> [discord] <whiterakogis> I think it was Mohawk engine, so maybe the original will be in ScummVM someday.
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[14:53] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Yeah I tried to get the original trilogy running on my pc over the years, I also hope one day there will be scummvm support but it's best to wait
[14:55] <grogbot> [discord] <robospongie> Yeah I tried to get the original trilogy running on my pc over the years (most I've read you need a VM for it nowadays), I also hope one day there will be scummvm support but it's best to wait (edited)
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[15:51] <Scummette> [scummvm] raziel- opened pull request #5785: JANITORIAL: Typo Squashing - Phase 1 (master...patch-1) https://is.gd/jRcUBd
[16:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] sluicebox pushed 4 new commits to master: https://is.gd/PdnheQ
[16:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master 19165ba sluicebox: AGI: Fix view decoding regression
[16:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master 02cd64b sluicebox: SCI: Remove unused SavegameDesc::virtualId
[16:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master d4c41f6 sluicebox: GUI: Fix ListWidget drawing caret on disabled items
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[16:45] <Scummette> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/iG0wRl
[16:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master da8e500 : AGI: Fix duration of timed text boxes
[16:46] <Scummette> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/yzwSUn
[16:46] <Scummette> scummvm/master c1671f7 : NEWS: Mention AGI message box timing fix
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[19:08] <Scummette> [scummvm] tag2015 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/BSrtR4
[19:08] <Scummette> scummvm/master 117cb3e tag2015: AGS: Add sanity check for 8bpp games
[19:08] <Scummette> scummvm/master 736a5ce tag2015: AGS: Add/update detection for a few games
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[20:23] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/QAAblX
[20:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master ccbbcb0 Strangerke: BAGEL: Introduce fatalError() to slowly move fatal errors from reportError to it, remove some unused stuff in error.h/pp and string.h/cpp
[20:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master c934a2b Strangerke: BAGEL: Initialize variables in CNavWindow (CID 1544897), more work on fatalError
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[20:54] <Scummette> [scummvm] sluicebox opened pull request #5786: GUI: Fix saveload display of selected empty items (master...saveload-gap-color) https://is.gd/etQH6g
[21:10] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/P05qhE
[21:10] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9e6ceb8 sev-: DIRECTOR: Hid loading logs under Loading channel
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[21:28] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/LB6t2l
[21:28] <Scummette> scummvm/master a23461e Strangerke: BAGEL: More work on fatal errors
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[21:40] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> Am I missing something? I can't seem to find the installer version of the Daily Builds anymore.
[21:41] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> On the downloads page, the nightly builds are all located at https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/dailybuilds -- But all of them are not the installers?
[21:41] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> we were building those manually, not anymore
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[21:44] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> We removed those in January
[21:47] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> Okay.
[21:48] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> I've got the latest nightly build working, though. I was worried I'd have to compile it.
[21:48] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> Looks like an old fix might no longer be part of this. Fun.
[21:49] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> the difference between those installers and nightly zip is packaging
[21:49] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> I'm once again getting the issue of "WARNING: Could not initialize SDL audio subsystem: Audio target 'dsound' not available!".
[21:49] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> I thought there was a commit to fix that?
[21:50] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> I remember a discussion, but do not remember the outcome
[21:53] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> it was fixed in SDL, maybe the buildbot needs a bump?
[21:53] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/commit/abe38bca3ed512ecc6ccf899545acf4ee055fa7d
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[21:57] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/8qmnTy
[21:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master 606cf9c Strangerke: BAGEL: Use fatalError in opt_window, quit_dialog, restart_dialog and restart_dialog
[21:57] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> I'm confused, I'm looking what I downloaded, and there's no SDLx.dll?
[21:57] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> I'm confused, I'm looking at what I downloaded, and there's no SDLx.dll? (edited)
[21:57] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> x being the version number.
[21:58] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> So, I can't manually update the dll. There's not one to replace.
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[22:01] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> When you run Scummvm with `--version` parameter, which SDL version is reported?
[22:02] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> ```C:\Dev\ScummVM-bca1dde7>scummvm.exe --version
[22:02] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> ScummVM 2.9.0git4424-gbca1dde768c (May 13 2024 04:42:32)
[22:02] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> Using SDL backend with SDL 2.0.14
[22:02] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> Features compiled in: TAINTED Vorbis FLAC MP3 RGB zLib MPEG2 FluidSynth MikMod Theora VPX AAC A/52 FreeType2 FriBiDi JPEG PNG GIF taskbar TTS cloud (servers, local) ENet SDL2 TinyGL OpenGL (with shaders) RetroWave```
[22:02] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> oh, that is ancient DLL
[22:03] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> That's what I got from https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/dailybuilds -- I chose Windows (64 bits), and ScummVM latest Branch master.
[22:03] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> That's what I got from https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/dailybuilds -- I chose Windows (64 bits), and ScummVM latest Branch master. (edited)
[22:06] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> But you said there was no DLL in the zip file
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[22:07] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> If it is so, then it is taken from your Windows directory
[22:07] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> This bug was fixed in SDL2.23.0
[22:07] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> Then my question is why isn't it in there?
[22:07] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> The only dll in that folder is WinSparkle.dll
[22:07] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> it might be statically linked
[22:08] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> My assumption was that if the DLL wasn't there, it would actually compiled into the exe?
[22:08] <grogbot> [discord] <supsuper> right, i dunno who manages the windows buildbot to check
[22:08] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> hmm, let me see the buildbot config
[22:09] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> https://i.gyazo.com/8d2ae64b104eaf147c3c7aed97b79170.png
[22:09] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> There's the directory listing. Just to confirm.
[22:09] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> That's everything from windows-x86-64-master-bca1dde7.zip
[22:10] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> indeed, it is on our buldbot
[22:10] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> sdl (2.0.14)
[22:10] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> @lephilousophe @felsqualle we need to update SDL on the Windows toolchain on the buildbot
[22:46] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/3b0O4i
[22:46] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9cc0768 OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA8: Use animation tracker target position for footstep sounds.
[23:40] <Scummette> [scummvm] elasota closed pull request #5753: MTROPOLIS: Fix Obsidian Widescreen Hacks (master...obsidian-widescreen) https://is.gd/2biSGl
[23:40] <Scummette> [scummvm] elasota pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/VANzdd
[23:40] <Scummette> scummvm/master a098fb1 rparnas: MTROPOLIS: Fix Obsidian Widescreen Hacks
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