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[02:21] <Scummette> [scummvm] trembyle closed pull request #2231: SCI32: Add GK1 Italian translation patch detection (master...master) https://git.io/JfCke
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[02:25] <Scummette> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf8pZ
[02:25] <Scummette> scummvm/master b377177 dreammaster: ULTIMA4: Further cleanup of saving/loading map(s) locations
[04:00] <Lightkey> https://www.gog.com/game/virtuaverse It's finally out!
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[07:31] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Please remind me - what C/CPP standard version are we aiming for? We had yesterday an issue with and , and now there is a PR regarding it. But it appears that such keywords are part of C++98 standard, at least according to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/555505/when-were-the-and-and-or-alternative-tokens-introduced-in-c/555517#555517
[07:33] <grogbot> <mduggan> I think the answer is "whatever all the compilers support", and that's rarely an exact spec version. Since MSVC doesn't like those operators I figure we should fail early rather than me breaking the build for others again :)
[07:35] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> But maybe it's better to convince MSVC to support them (if feasible), if it's legal code, and MSVC has no good reason to avoid them?
[07:36] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Just wandering...
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[07:58] <grogbot> <mduggan> it's possible to make msvc support them, by including <iso646.h> .. at that point it's more a matter of taste as to whether they should be supported. Personally even though I made the original PR with and in it, that was a mistake and I'm not a big fan of them, for consistency more than anything else.
[08:50] <grogbot> <monyarm> I spent 50 minutes writing constructors and operators, before realizing that the reason why it was complaining is because Union's are non-copyable
[09:12] <grogbot> <madmoose> @mduggan Yeah, even if everything supported it I'd not be happy to see it used.
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[11:12] <grogbot> <monyarm> Question, does scummvm have a non hashmap map? I need to map ints to ints. (like a c# dictionary)
[11:15] <grogbot> <madmoose> Doesn't a hashmap work for that?
[11:16] <grogbot> <monyarm> Either it doesn't, or I'm misunderstanding the error I'm getting. My hashmap int int64, is telling me "expression must have class type"
[11:19] <grogbot> <monyarm> Nevermind it works now
[11:20] <grogbot> <monyarm> Maybe intellisense bugged out? I've been having issues with vs code being slow all day.
[11:20] <grogbot> <madmoose> 🙂
[11:23] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Don't trust intellisense! It's indeed a nice tool, but it's always preferable to compile, and get detailed and accurate error messages. And as you said, there might be some latency intellisense reports. Also, if you're convinced that your code is OK, but it fails - 'clean' and then 'compile' (somehow, in VS, the 'recompile from scratch' (I don't remember its official name) isn't cleaning everything)
[11:25] <grogbot> <monyarm> I know but I can't compile yet, as I'm currently porting some c# code to c++, I've got 36 error left to fix, and a few more functions to move over. I have to get it error less before I can try to compile.
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[11:27] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> that's why they invented /* and */ ;-) First rule in debugging - small incremental steps. Things aren't working? Go back to previous working state, and add things one after another. Usually it's much easier to fix things like that.
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[11:30] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Anyway, If you can't compile, I wouldn't have trusted intelisense input as well... How does it know what's going on, if the code can't be compiled? In that's situation, even if you don't want my small incremental steps advice, I'd recommend you to ignore intelisense, compile, and fix compilation errors one after another. They are more detailed, and more accurate.
[11:31] <grogbot> <madmoose> Type 1 line, save, compile. Type 2 lines, save, compile. Change 1 character, save, compile. 🙂
[11:31] <grogbot> <monyarm> Not really an option here, atleast not easily, as each class uses each other class, and every function calls almost every other function, its too interwoven to do incrementally. And you are right about trying to compile, but I first need to get it to the right syntax first, which when the code is 1200 lines is easier said than done.
[11:32] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Let's continue this discussion in your channel. It's offtopic here...
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[11:40] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4cn
[11:40] <Scummette> scummvm/master e2001d1 mduggan: ULTIMA8: Remove _ from non-member variable names
[11:49] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 11 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4c1
[11:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6638486 mduggan: ULTIMA8: Add debug outputs to help crusader decoding
[11:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7c0a964 mduggan: ULTIMA8: Load more crusader data correctly
[11:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master ff27f33 mduggan: ULTIMA8: Reset all intrinsics for crusader and begin decoding
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[12:08] <travis-ci> scummvm/scummvm#13287 (master - e2001d1 : Matthew Duggan): The build has errored.
[12:08] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/compare/b37717700739...e2001d107d39
[12:08] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/scummvm/scummvm/builds/686531716
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[12:10] <grogbot> <mduggan> aww.. looks like the checkout failed with a 429. I'll try rerunning soon
[12:11] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4CD
[12:11] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9ee9fc1 mduggan: TITANIC: Update readLine function signature
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[12:32] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 9ee9fc19: Success: master-3ds, master-amigaos4
[12:34] <grogbot> <monyarm> Common::SortedArray<T>::push_back is inaccessible Any ideas?
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[12:38] <travis-ci> scummvm/scummvm#13289 (master - 66f10c6 : Matthew Duggan): The build has errored.
[12:38] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/compare/e2001d107d39...66f10c6dc8ba
[12:38] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/scummvm/scummvm/builds/686534332
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[12:44] <travis-ci> scummvm/scummvm#13290 (master - 9ee9fc1 : Matthew Duggan): The build has errored.
[12:44] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/compare/66f10c6dc8ba...9ee9fc19ae1a
[12:44] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/scummvm/scummvm/builds/686540812
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[13:14] <Deledrius> There's another channel?
[13:14] <grogbot> <Henke37> join us on discord. we've got candy
[13:16] <Deledrius> Ah, nevermind, I see the context now.
[13:18] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 9ee9fc19: Success: master-psp2full, master-mingw-w32, master-ps3, master-mingw-w64-cplusplus11, master-psp2
[13:20] <grogbot> <mduggan> yay, that should recover some of my buildbot karma..
[13:30] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 9ee9fc19: Success: master-mingw-w64, master-switch
[13:32] <grogbot> <monyarm> ./common/array.h:414:6: error: invalid conversion from int to void* [-fpermissive] 414 | T *where = bsearchMin(element); | ^~~~~ | | | int ./common/array.h:445:50: error: invalid conversion from int to const void* [-fpermissive] 445 | result = this->_comparator(key, this->_storage[mid]); | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^ |
[13:32] <grogbot> | | int There's something weird going on with Common::Array and Common::SortedArray
[13:45] <grogbot> <monyarm> Is SortedArray supposed to be only for pointers or something?
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[14:07] <grogbot> <OMGPizzaGuy> Ah. Discord. Better.
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[16:12] <grogbot> <sev> @ZvikaZ did I tell you that I am convinced that MSVC is not a C++ compiler?
[16:15] <grogbot> <ZvikaZ> Not me, but you said so in the channel. Honestly, this and issue really surprised me. I agree that it's not c-speak, and I won't use it, but if it's the standard for more than 20 years, how come they don't support it? It might interleave with our gui discussion. Not everything that MS is doing is that smart...
[16:15] <grogbot> <sev> well, simply because MSVC is a Windows/MS Office compiler
[16:16] <grogbot> <sev> they care about that codebase, and develop it for it
[16:16] <grogbot> <sev> much less about following standards
[16:16] <grogbot> <Henke37> want them to care? pay them.
[16:16] <grogbot> <sev> similar thing to what they were doing to Java until Sun forced them to stop it, and they created C#
[16:16] <grogbot> <Henke37> but honestly, they do want to support modern standard c++.
[16:16] <grogbot> <sev> @Henke37 want and do are two different things
[16:17] <grogbot> <Henke37> quite
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[18:48] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4KK
[18:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master dcb0b57 sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Simplify grammar and remove supposedly bogus macro defs
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[19:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6ebc79c sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Fix preprocessor for 'sound of'
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[21:13] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4MF
[21:13] <Scummette> scummvm/master b75a663 sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Fixed error recovery
[21:21] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4D0
[21:21] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5c7ce25 mduggan: ULTIMA8: Remove warnings from some unfinished code
[21:25] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4Do
[21:25] <Scummette> scummvm/master 456b2a4 mduggan: ULTIMA4: Avoid member shadowing warnings
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[21:51] <Scummette> [scummvm] rvanlaar opened pull request #2247: DIRECTOR: Test commit for the buildbot: DO NOT MERGE (master...test_buildbot) https://git.io/Jf4y6
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[21:55] <akaWolf> hi, guys
[21:56] <akaWolf> someone tried to reverse Lost Vikings?
[21:57] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4yF
[21:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master 512aec3 mduggan: ULTIMA8: Remove explicit copy constructors
[22:00] <Scummette> [scummvm] janisozaur opened pull request #2248: Add support for MSVC AArch64 and vcpkg (master...vcpkg) https://git.io/Jf4ST
[22:11] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan closed pull request #2244: ULTIMA8: Custom type checking cleanup (master...u8_type_check_cleanup) https://git.io/Jf85Q
[22:11] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4SV
[22:11] <Scummette> scummvm/master d56b63f OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA8: Custom type checking cleanup (#2244)
[22:14] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jf4SK
[22:14] <Scummette> scummvm/master 61232f7 sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Fixed column counter in lexer
[22:14] <Scummette> scummvm/master 4acc78d sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Implemented ignoring trailing parens in Lingo
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