[00:10] lol it still needs audio mixing [00:13] BeefEats (~BeefEats@unaffiliated/beefeats) joined #scummvm. [00:24] i thought that was an unavoidable feature. [00:24] literally can't output audio without assigning a mixer channel type [00:26] it does but that just defaults to max volume for everything [00:27] Zaarin (dfh@84-52-242.12.3p.ntebredband.no) left #scummvm. [00:27] <_athrxx> How much is left to do there? Looks very promising [00:28] <_athrxx> (the engine, not hooking up the volume control) [00:28] [scummvm] lolbot-iichan opened pull request #2507: WINTERMUTE: Detection update (master...wme_detection_2020_10) https://git.io/JTUz9 [00:41] around 50%? it's at that point where it's "playable" but missing "all of the actual boring difficult details" 😛 [00:51] [scummvm] criezy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JTU2u [00:51] scummvm/master e835860 criezy: IOS7: Remove include that is no longer needed [00:54] <_athrxx> Oh wow, a game that is made up 50% of boring details 😛 [01:02] boring to implement 😛 [01:02] Shine_ (~Shine@dynamic-095-112-173-248.95.112.pool.telefonica.de) joined #scummvm. [01:04] still needs ui, inventory, load/save, lighting, shadows, antialiasing, audio channels, cursor animations, dialog choices, ingame videos, half the script commands, etc etc [01:13] <_athrxx> It has a rating of 62% on Steam. People seem to like the graphics and sound, but not the controls. [01:18] Shine_ (~Shine@dynamic-095-112-173-248.95.112.pool.telefonica.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:28] [scummvm] lolbot-iichan closed pull request #2507: WINTERMUTE: Detection update [DO NOT MERGE] (master...wme_detection_2020_10) https://git.io/JTUz9 [01:29] [scummvm] criezy pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JTUwK [01:29] scummvm/master 271713c criezy: IOS7: Fix reimplementation of OSystem::setGraphicsMode [01:29] scummvm/master 3fc7fc2 criezy: IOS7: Add override keyword for OSystem_iOS7 functions [01:41] [scummvm] lolbot-iichan opened pull request #2508: WINTERMUTE: Add "Red Comrades 0.2: Operation F." demos (master...wme_detection_petka) https://git.io/JTUrX [01:43] My brother is excited at the progress there, SupSuper. He's a fan of the game. [01:49] Deledrius: cool. i wonder if it's better in its native language, as the english writing is... not great [01:52] That's what he told me, too. [01:52] I think he enjoys the peculiarity about it [01:52] DominusExult (~dominus@port-92-194-102-234.dynamic.as20676.net) joined #scummvm. [01:53] DominusExult (~dominus@port-92-194-102-234.dynamic.as20676.net) left irc: Changing host [01:53] DominusExult (~dominus@unaffiliated/dominus) joined #scummvm. [01:54] Dominus (~dominus@unaffiliated/dominus) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:54] Nick change: DominusExult -> Dominus [01:57] JohnnyonFlame (~quassel@179-107-148-167.zamix.com.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:02] JohnnyonFlame (~quassel@179-107-148-167.zamix.com.br) joined #scummvm. [02:02] JohnnyonFlame (~quassel@179-107-148-167.zamix.com.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:02] JohnnyonFlame (~quassel@179-107-148-167.zamix.com.br) joined #scummvm. 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[03:42] ldevulder (~ldevulder@i19-lef02-th2-212-195-5-107.ft.lns.abo.bbox.fr) joined #scummvm. [03:44] ldevulder_ (~ldevulder@dec69-h02-176-129-27-172.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [03:49] Will scummvm support eye of the beholder 3? [03:50] One day perhaps. Source is available (AESOP32). I worked on it some years ago, but the engine had some nasty issues, I vaguely recall, such as deliberate array overruns or something. I couldn't quite get my version to run, and put it on indefinite hiatus. I may return to it someday if no-one else does [03:52] I'm interested on working on adding a engine for SVM, isn't there a tutorial or something? (And Also does SVM's source tree support visual studio?) [03:53] yup, check the wiki [03:53] Yes indeed. I use Visual Studio myself. See https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=Compiling_ScummVM/Visual_Studio [03:54] There's also a page talking about engine basics: https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=HOWTO-Engines Though it still needs to be updated due to the recent split in meta engines [03:56] Thx [03:59] if you're working from existing source, my suggestion is get it compiling in scummvm first, and then fit it into an engine second [04:01] criezy (~criezy@host86-133-88-201.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: criezy [04:10] Port build status changed with 3fc7fc28: Success: master-ios7 [04:18] Shine_ (~Shine@dynamic-077-003-003-151.77.3.pool.telefonica.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:30] Port build status changed with 736dc1ca: Success: stable-3ds [04:45] Something is wrong with Switch. It says shaders not supported, but usineur's port supports shaders, using glad. [04:46] I guess glad is not automatically tested for or some such. I think this PR is all that was needed to make Switch ResidualVM work: https://github.com/usineur/residualvm/commit/f2dccdfd3c2ec9af261a872a461f0162615a140f [04:46] And glad.h is now part of the toolchain. [04:47] Longest Journey works in usineur's port. [04:47] and Escape from Monkey Island, too. [04:50] We probably need the updated SwitchSDLGraphicsManager from here, I think https://github.com/usineur/residualvm/blob/f2dccdfd3c2ec9af261a872a461f0162615a140f/backends/graphics/switchsdl/switchsdl-graphics.cpp [04:54] gus (~quassel@2400:6180:0:d0::f76:7001) joined #scummvm. [04:54] gus_ (~quassel@2400:6180:0:d0::f76:7001) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:04] [scummvm] aquadran closed pull request #2506: BACKENDS: Attempt to fix ios7 build (master...fix-ios7) https://git.io/JTU8d [05:05] Hmm no taking in that switchsdlgraphicsmanager causes all kinds of conflicts [05:06] THis is not gonna work as easy as I thought. [05:07] for example setupScreen does not exist anymore etc. So when sev said "it will just work" that's not really true at least not for Switch. Anyhoo. I am out for a while. [05:09] This graphics manager code is highly obtuse and gives me a brainfreeze. [05:09] It reminds me of the "factory of factories" antipattern [05:12] you can see if just enabling configure flags will make it work [05:13] I tried that, no it didn't work. [05:13] ../scummvm/engines/stark/gfx/driver.cpp:43:6: error: 'OpenGLContext' was not declared in this scope; did you mean 'EGLContext'? 43 | if (OpenGLContext.shadersSupported) { | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~ | EGLContext [05:13] I tried to force shader support on etc. But it needs glad anyway on Switch I think. [05:14] I might be missing something simple, but judging by usineur's custom switchsdlgraphicsmanager, I think that code is probably needed. [05:16] Maybe we can lure usineur in here and see if he is willing to help porting. He already forked the new repo and archived his old ResidualVM Switch branch, so that gives me hope. [05:16] couldn't hurt. seems currently we only support shaders via GLEW [05:17] The problem is all this refactoring of constructors and class members makes code reuse hard. I think code reuse only works if a structure is development and then not changed all the time. [05:17] Like in an ideal world, I should have neen able to just plug usineur's switchsdlgraphicsmanager in like a module, but of course many members are different, and even the constructor itself. [05:20] I probably shouldn't waste time trying to understand this, it is usineur's baby anyways. [05:20] I have no doubt he will eventuallky make a PR. [05:29] Here's my current wip in case anyone is interested: https://github.com/rsn8887/scummvm/commit/c321e0476f35b7d2fba7f242ef1243d7be66f598 [05:32] Correct link: https://github.com/rsn8887/scummvm/tree/switch-rvm [05:50] [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JTUAg [05:50] scummvm/master b632277 aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Align type param for glGetTexLevelParameteriv [05:56] Well, having read the backlog, I will just say: Replace Myst3 and Stark with how cyx' RAW was handled and go reflect on your hypocrisy a bit. [06:23] Shine_ (~Shine@dynamic-077-003-003-151.77.3.pool.telefonica.de) joined #scummvm. [06:39] RAW? [06:41] Please keep conversation to a civil level and respect the time and effort people in this project are putting voluntarily in their free time -- sometimes sacrificing even more than that for the improvement of the project and keeping our user base happy. [06:42] We can discuss as adults, with arguments. Not random accusations. It creates a bad climate and it that's a terrible thing in a open source project for developer motivation. [06:42] Use arguments, logic. Try to leave drama outside of it. [06:49] Ah, Another World. Right. [06:51] Man, that was a long time ago. [06:52] You can word it however you want, the difference with how RAW and Myst3/Stark was handled is plain to see and illogical if you want to be consistent in your actions, talk about respect for bgK's effort and time. [06:54] I am talking about respecting everybody's time, including mine. [06:54] So then why did you call it a random accusation? It wasn't. [06:55] I have yet to read the argument for bgk's case, other than "he wanted out" [06:55] I am calling your accusation about "hyprocrisy" random. It's a terrible thing to say, and you seem to be making connections without having all the facts or taking into account differences in the situation you are comparing. [06:56] Make a case with arguments, or leave it for the parties involved to discuss calmly [06:58] If there's a problem, we need to isolate it (ie. not start digging for dirt or whatever in the past) and seek a solution. We need to work towards that, not halt all logic discussion. [06:59] Also, we need to accept that some decisions may not satisfy all parties, and some claims cannot be honored if they are not convincing and go against the spirit of the open source contributions. [07:00] Wait, so you don't know what happened with RAW? [07:00] That is to say, there needs to be a solid case for bgk's claim, and he is the only one to make it. [07:01] BeefEats (~BeefEats@unaffiliated/beefeats) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:01] Pardon my saying, but screw what happened with RAW almost two decades ago. I do not care because it is not the issue at hand. We need to focus on this, if we want to look for a solution that will improve matters with bgK [07:01] He already made his claim, that he is the main (over 90%, as he said) developer and does not wish to work on it inside of ScummVM. Same as happened with RAW. [07:01] [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JTTf8 [07:01] scummvm/master 7bcce1f aquadran: GRAPHICS: Add missing OpenGL ifdef guard [07:02] Except back then, his wish was respected and now it isn't. [07:02] This is not a logical claim though. It's sentimental. People already explained it to him that he can work on a fork or the current tree code. All code history is intact, he has ownership of all of his work and contributions, as per the log and is credited for such [07:03] Lightkey: It's been already explained that open source does not work like that, though. And ScummVM two decades ago was a smaller project, with different management, scope and priorities. It was a different situation, yet you instist on invoking it [07:04] as if it were the same. No. Different conditions, different discussion took place [07:04] Just to be clear, I am happy that Myst3 and Stark being included in ScummVM, I would have been even happier if that was also the case for RAW, I am just looking for consistency here. [07:05] Consistency is not a priority. [07:05] If you want to be taken seriously, it is. [07:05] Not it is not. If you want to be taken seriously you present a logical case and do not invoke shit from a long gone past [07:07] Open source projects change, their scope changes, they are live organisms. ResidualVM was pretty much always expected (I think by everyone, but I could be wrong) to be merged with ScummVM. [07:07] And you ask me to discuss like an adult.. [07:07] At some point. [07:07] Yes, I am asking. [07:07] But not doing so yourself. [07:07] Another bold claim. Why do you think so? [07:07] Consistency, all I'm asking for. [07:08] "invoke shit from past" [07:08] And I am explaining to you, that when a project changes and evolve dynamically through the years you cannot ask for your kind of consistency [07:09] Is it "shit" that annoyed you? [07:09] Fine, sorry. Invoke another situation from the past [07:09] No, it's that "hypocrisy" annoyed you but "shit" is fine, that's what I meant with missing consistency. [07:10] I am indulging you here, in what I think it is a discussion that you are not handling properly. We need to focus on the current issue. [07:10] Hypocisy is an accusation. A very heavy one. You should know this [07:11] "shit" is something I (and other people) use instead of "things". Maybe you don't, but understand that it is not used offensively here. [07:12] I am trying to calm this situation down, or at least set a framework to discuss calmly. [07:12] You seem to be working against that [07:14] I, and other active contributors and community members, are here and reading almost everything in the chat. We search for things that we can help with, questions, issues raised etc. So we have to read everything. Accusations and drame take toll, they discourage us . [07:26] Shine_ (~Shine@dynamic-077-003-003-151.77.3.pool.telefonica.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:42] If everyone were to be held to consistency across lots of years, then Id still be expected to wear diapers. [07:43] Jokes aside, how are things supposed to change, if one cant change position on topics? [07:49] A better example is perhaps the fact that the Linux kernel now allows for at least Rust. Pretty sure the stance on C++ is written in stone though [07:51] Hello i try to compile scummvm-master on my platform (MorphOS), i have a little error on Wintermute. [07:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764757153067827210/unknown.png [07:52] i fix it on ad_actor_3dx.h replace int to int32 getHeight() override... not sur.. [07:52] @BeWorld can you make sure you have the latest HEAD of the repository? [07:53] There is currently work on fixing such issues [07:54] yes i think, donwload all package yesterday 19:39 [07:54] As I understand it, Wintermute engine has some issues with its use of opengl that need more work [07:54] There probably were more fixes since then [07:54] ok [07:55] For example Android build got fixed merely few hours ago [07:56] ok i check [07:56] If the issue persists you can let @aquadran know -- he's been pretty much working non-stop on resolving these issues, (and I expect he is very tired too) [07:57] i continue, i found somes errors on MorphOS with ex-residualvm engine [07:57] ok thanks [07:57] I think I fixed it on tip of master branch [07:59] This isnt GL related though [07:59] Should have existed on ScummVM for years [07:59] they are from the new 3d engines though [07:59] ah, indeed, looked similiar [08:00] Oh, spotted the 3DX now [08:00] if these are platform-specific issues you are welcome to fix and PR them, as i don't think we have a MorphOS buildbot. there is an amigaos which seems to be currently failing [08:00] Hard to read on the phone [08:00] ok no problem, thanks [08:00] I guess int != int32 on MorphOS? [08:01] Iirc AmigaOS 4 had similar issues [08:01] guess so. making .h and cpp consistent is the right move either way as it will produce a warning on other compilers [08:03] yes same as AmigaOS [08:03] yup, just checked buildbot has the same error [08:06] looking into [08:08] @BeWorld change from int to int32 in ad_actor_3dx.h at line 56 [08:08] i confirm same error on buildbot AmigaOS 🙂 [08:08] I think it should help [08:09] yes but i have anoter error [08:09] yes? [08:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764761699458613258/unknown.png [08:10] looks like many ints in your future 🙂 [08:12] file ad_actor_3dx.cpp 1260 line same as above from in to int32 [08:14] also ad_actor_3dx.h line 54 same as above [08:16] @SupSuper indeed [08:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764763606671163403/unknown.png [08:18] ink0gnito_ (~ink0gnito@185.132.133.69) joined #scummvm. [08:18] Right, thats the kind of stuff that broke save games on AmigaOS 4 [08:19] ad_actor_3dx.h line 84 [08:19] ink0gnito (~ink0gnito@185.132.133.69) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:20] ink0gnito_ (~ink0gnito@185.132.133.69) left irc: Client Quit [08:21] ink0gnito (~ink0gnito@185.132.133.69) joined #scummvm. [08:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764764537881624617/unknown.png [08:21] lol lot of int [08:21] ad_actor_3dx.cpp lines 2265 and 2271 [08:21] int all the things [08:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764764821253652530/unknown.png [08:22] next 🙂 [08:23] line 75 ad_actor_3dx.h [08:24] yes [08:24] ok pass... but... [08:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764765388575342592/unknown.png [08:25] INTeresting? 🤣 [08:25] loool [08:26] [scummvm] SupSuper pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JTTtG [08:26] scummvm/master 12e7fb9 SupSuper: COMMON: Attempt to fix DS build [08:27] ad_object_3d.cpp line 123 both ints [08:27] ad_object_3d.h line 43 as above [08:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764766347552096266/unknown.png [08:28] ad_actor_3dx.cpp line 194 [08:30] ink0gnito_ (~ink0gnito@185.132.133.69) joined #scummvm. [08:31] ink0gnito_ (~ink0gnito@185.132.133.69) left irc: Client Quit [08:31] ink0gnito (~ink0gnito@185.132.133.69) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:31] base_renderer3d.h line 91 [08:32] base_renderer3d.cpp line 48 [08:32] ink0gnito (~ink0gnito@185.132.133.69) joined #scummvm. [08:33] modelx.cpp lines 562-563 [08:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764768055107780608/unknown.png [08:36] ad_object_3d.cpp line 184 [08:37] not sur here, x and y ? [08:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764768739530375238/unknown.png [08:38] ah, right 183 [08:39] ok so error... [08:41] ad_object_3d.cpp line 586 and ad_object_3d.h line 53 ? [08:42] yeah, I think so [08:44] ad_scene_geometry.cpp line 1300 ad_scene_geometry.h line 84 [08:45] yes [08:45] there is a lot of int..... [08:46] ad_path3d.h line 52 [08:47] ad_path3d.cpp line 111 and 119 [08:48] first yes, second should not [08:48] no, right, second too [08:48] ok [08:48] ad_scene_geometry.cpp line 101 and 105 [08:50] ad_scene_geometry.cpp line 1170 [08:50] line 1203 [08:51] line 1233 1263 [08:51] line 1300 [08:52] I don't follow this "ad_scene_geometry.cpp line 101 and 105" what error you have? [08:52] Command sent by BeWorld [08:52] .h sorry [08:53] "ad_scene_geometry.cpp line 1170" yes [08:53] 1203 too [08:54] 1233 and 1263 also [08:54] 1300 too [08:55] ok pass.. next i have a specific morphos [08:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764773117163470848/unknown.png [08:55] i fix that whith define MORPHOS [08:55] i have a same on myst3 [08:56] let me check this [08:56] ok [08:56] Smells like we may need a wrapper function tbh [08:57] Engines shouldnt have backend specific workarounds directly [08:59] it's type mismatch [08:59] web says: "const void * data" [08:59] let me check local declaration [09:01] try cast to (const void *) [09:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764774960723263488/unknown.png [09:04] just (void *) ? [09:04] i have a warning [09:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/764775554599223326/unknown.png [09:05] same with (GLvoid*) [09:05]