ScummVM IRC Log - 10 Jun 2019

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[00:26] <Grogbot> <💾 𝕲𝖎𝖒𝖑𝖆𝖔> @rootfather About Discworld, simply start the game and close it, then the talkspeed setting in scummvm.ini will decrease.
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[00:37] <Deledrius> Whoa, that username is just a bunch of unicode tofu for me.
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[00:42] <Lightkey> WFM
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[01:35] <Deledrius> Ah, guess I'm missing that font
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[03:10] <Endy> @here is a great place to be, for @everyone in our wonderful community :)
[03:11] <Deledrius> lol
[03:11] <Grogbot> <Henke37> oh, goodie. nobody got around to disabling @everyone
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[03:11] Action: Endy chuckles innocently from the other side of the bridge ;)
[03:15] <Grogbot> <Henke37> then again, what else do i expect from a server that has notifications for every message on by default?
[03:17] <Lightkey> Endy: if you've got time for shenanigans, fix the logs parser!!1one
[03:21] <Endy> Lightkey: What's it mangling this time?
[03:24] <Grogbot> <LittleToonCat> They did a fantastic job not disabling @ everyone
[03:24] <Grogbot> <LittleToonCat> 😂
[03:25] <Lightkey> Endy: same as the years before, not showing lines with umlauts or other non-ascii characters, e.g. at 16:00 here: https://logs.scummvm.org/log.php?log=scummvm.log.09Jun2019&format=html
[03:26] <Lightkey> and now the Discord nick colours colour the whole lines
[03:27] <Endy> Yeah, GrogBot is sending an odd control code for stopping the ANSI colouring. Even my actual IRC client can't parse it.
[03:27] <Endy> The UTF-8 issue, argh. That was all fixed, how can something that doesn't ever get changed have so many regressions ;)
[03:27] <Lightkey> I have never seen it fixed, TBH
[03:28] <SupSuper> i don't think it's just grogbot since the color codes for the other bots are also broken
[03:28] <SupSuper> and work fine on hexchat
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[03:41] <Endy> Okay, I've done a terrible terrible dodgy hack to parse out the \0F code
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[03:53] <Lightkey> Endy: even the text log seems to have some problem, see first and third line, it's the same nick in both: https://logs.scummvm.org/log.php?log=scummvm.log.10Jun2019&format=text
[03:56] <mataniko> https://www.filfre.net/2019/06/day-of-the-tentacle/
[03:58] <Endy> Lightkey: Well, the original issue was the parser would completely 'eat' the lines with different encodings.
[03:58] <Endy> Lightkey: Now it just renders them incorrectly - progress, arguably *cough*
[03:59] <Lightkey> Endy: point is it shows it correctly on one line and incorrect on another
[04:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] sluicebox pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/fjgkG
[04:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2f837d9 sluicebox: SCI: Add SQ4 workaround for Sequel Police shooting
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[04:07] <mataniko> Endy: do you have time to update the CSS/logo for logs?
[04:15] <Endy> mataniko: Not right this second, Mondays in the office at a bit busy... tomorrow evening is free, so I'll take a look then?
[04:15] <mataniko> yeah no rush
[04:16] <mataniko> more of a subtle nudge since I saw you're online
[04:16] <mataniko> happy to help too, can also set up rsync to the logs while i'm at it
[04:18] <Endy> Have I put your key on the server? If not, email to me and I'll add that in :)
[04:18] <Endy> If you get to it before me, I won't complain hehe
[04:19] Action: Endy is re-themeing our internal tools today, and is experencing CSS-rage too early in the week!
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[04:29] <Scummette> [scummvm] sluicebox opened pull request #1659: SCI: Fix SQ4 Big & Tall missing room message (master...sq4bigandtallmsg) https://git.io/fjgkE
[04:29] <mataniko> sent you my pubkey
[04:32] <Endy> And installed :)
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[05:06] <Grogbot> <Vyzigold> hello 😀
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[05:55] <Grogbot> <rootfather> Hi @everyone
[05:56] <Grogbot> <rootfather> It think @everyone should go on the ignore list too.
[05:56] <Grogbot> <LittleToonCat> Hi ping
[05:56] <Grogbot> <rootfather> I have yet to check how it behaves on irc side
[05:57] <Grogbot> <rootfather> Or if having the e-word is just snnoying on the discord side
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[06:27] <Deledrius> It's just a normal chatline here, near as I can tell.
[06:28] <Grogbot> <rootfather> okay then, so the bot doesnt automatically mentions everbody here and creates a mess on the IRC side?
[06:28] <Endy> Nope, IRC is fairly clean
[06:28] <Grogbot> <rootfather> great!
[06:28] <Grogbot> <rootfather> also thanks for taking care of the coloring issues on LeChuck's Evil Logs of Eternity!
[06:29] <Endy> Ohh, I like that one - maybe I should retitle the page :)
[06:29] <Endy> No problem. I can't promise that LeChuck won't try and eliminate his arch-rival, GrogBot, however :)
[06:30] <Grogbot> <rootfather> Well, the battle must go on for at least 3 episodes. 😛
[06:30] <Lightkey> I didn't mind the colouring as much as having to check the text log for every missing line in the HTML log :-(
[06:30] Action: Endy grins
[06:31] <Endy> If parsing HTML with regular expression summons Cthulhu (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags), you don't want to know what using regular expressions to process ANSI codes brings into being...
[06:32] <Endy> Lightkey: PR's welcome :D
[06:32] Action: Endy originally wrote that script in like the late 90s, and it shows
[06:33] <Lightkey> Endy: wait, that text problem I told you earlier is also in the HTML logs, so it actually parses it correct? then the only problem is figuring out why it stops parsing it correctly after the first line
[06:35] <Lightkey> https://logs.scummvm.org/log.php?log=scummvm.log.10Jun2019&format=html here, third line isn't shown because of the nick, even though it's shown on the first line
[06:35] <Endy> Lightkey: Yeah, the text log is correct (as Deledrius mentioned, that username was 'unicode tofu'). The unicode -> html entities conversion is failing on it tho, so the line variable ends up blank
[06:36] <Endy> Hence the suspicious blank lines. Unfortunately, if I put the unicode in as-is then some browsers think it's a binary file and trigger it for download instead of actually rendering the log.
[06:36] <Grogbot> <rootfather> someone said Cthulhu?
[06:36] <Endy> So I can't just fall-back on the raw line if the conversion fails
[06:36] <Grogbot> <rootfather> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p8P-G58_Yw
[06:37] <Grogbot> <rootfather> I'll see if I can trick Grogbot to not use UTF8 if that helps
[06:37] <Grogbot> <rootfather> I think there's an option for that
[06:38] <Lightkey> Endy: are you even listening? the text log has the same problem as the HTML log in this case, both show his nick correctly on the first line of today's log and garbled/not shown on the third
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[06:42] <Lightkey> so it's not a matter of whether it works but that it switches to the wrong conversion after that
[06:44] <Endy> Lightkey: So I'm looking at the third line of https://logs.scummvm.org/log.php?log=scummvm.log.10Jun2019&format=html and https://logs.scummvm.org/log.php?log=scummvm.log.10Jun2019&format=text
[06:45] <Endy> Lightkey: Missing in the HTML log, present in the text log. Then your message a bit later about 3 1/2" floppies is in the text log but not the HTML log
[06:45] <Endy> Lightkey: What are you looking at? I think we might be talking about two different things?
[06:46] <Lightkey> see the very first line in the text log? the mentioned nick with the floppy symbol? it's shown correctly
[06:47] <Endy> Ahhh, right I didn't even notice that had unicode in it as my brain was just automatically scanning for the blanks I guess
[06:47] <Endy> Now I get you
[06:47] <Lightkey> and that is the same nick in the third line
[06:49] <Endy> Oh wow okay, that garbage is supposed to be same nickname? It must be an eggdrop bug since the encoding broke in the raw text logfile then, bah
[06:49] <Endy> That gives me somewhere to start tho, thanks
[06:49] <Lightkey> thank 💾 𝕲𝖎𝖒𝖑𝖆𝖔 for his timing :->
[06:50] <Endy> Indeed haha

[06:55] <Lightkey> blub
[06:56] <Lightkey> Endy: yup, it was the Euro symbol :-/

[06:58] <Endy> :P

[07:03] <Lightkey> same, can't blame it on the Euro :-P
[07:04] <Endy> It's rather ironic that the floppy disk emoji on it's own is just fine
[07:04] <Endy> Unicode man, what a world.
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[07:11] <Deledrius> Yeah I can see the floppy but the rest is just blocks
[07:12] <Lightkey> bollocks*
[07:17] <Grogbot> <rootfather> Okay, disabling UTF8 for the conversion on Grogbot is indeed possible
[07:18] <Lightkey> please leave it on, let's not go backwards in time
[07:18] <Grogbot> <rootfather> sure, no problem
[07:19] <Endy> Yeah, it's definately a parsing issue on my end since it happens on the IRC side as well

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[08:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #1659: SCI: Fix SQ4 Big & Tall missing room message (master...sq4bigandtallmsg) https://git.io/fjgkE
[08:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/fjgIF
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[08:18] <Grogbot> <kyra> Uhm... what's wrong with UTF-8?
[08:28] <Endy> It makes the IRC channel logs go a bit wonky sometimes :)
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[08:35] <Grogbot> <kyra> Oh, makes sense
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[09:02] <rootfather> grogbot runs as a systemd service now
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[10:55] <Scummette> scummvm/master 4a0e2e5 sluicebox: SCI: Fix SQ4 Big & Tall missing room message
[10:55] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/fjgqR
[11:48] <Grogbot> <somaen> In case anyone's interested, the Ida Pro Book is part of a Humble Bundle currently, at the 1$ tier: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/hacking-no-starch-press-books
[11:51] <Deledrius> The first edition was quite good, IMO
[11:51] <Deledrius> Really helped me understand the workflow in IDA much better
[11:52] <Grogbot> <waltervn> maybe we should tweet this out? it may be of interest to some of our followers
[11:56] <Grogbot> <somaen> Offer is valid for roughly 6 more hours
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[11:58] <Deledrius> Good idea :)
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[16:01] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> I hate the IRC bridging bot 😦
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[16:07] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> looks fine here, but just looks like spam in IRC
[16:07] <Grogbot> <rootfather> Why that?
[16:08] <Grogbot> <rootfather> Yeah, unfortunately the messages are all sent by the bot according to IRC
[16:08] <Grogbot> <mataniko> Now i'm spoofed on IRC
[16:09] <LePhilousophe> by what?
[16:09] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> That makes sense. After all, we're not running the IRC server ourselves. I can't imagine Freenode would allow messages to be posted as if they were in the context of other users. It'd be too easy for spammers to exploit
[16:09] <Grogbot> <mataniko> I can just come in as _sev here, and then tell someone not on discord to do something
[16:09] <Grogbot> <mataniko> Just close the IRC channel
[16:09] <Grogbot> <madmoose> Then don't do that.
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[16:10] <LePhilousophe> mataniko: or just close Discord server :)
[16:10] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> I mean, someone with nefarious intent could
[16:11] <Grogbot> <madmoose> Let's not invent problems.
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[16:12] <LePhilousophe> wow. why is there 2 mataniko on Discord side? There is one yellow in lower case and one blue with first letter capitalized
[16:12] <LePhilousophe> at least shown by discord bridge
[16:12] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> ^
[16:13] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> There's no need to be attached to IRC so much that we need to bridge to it, just pick a place to form the community
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[16:18] <Grogbot> <SupSuper> https://xkcd.com/1782/
[16:18] <bgK> (pick a place that embraces the culture and values of FOSS)
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[16:20] <LePhilousophe> I totally agree with bgK, Discord is closed-source and server are maintained by some private company
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[16:21] <Grogbot> <madmoose> I hear lots of complaints about Discord, but no solutions.
[16:21] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> I don't have a complaint about Discord, although I prefer IRC. I'm ok with either, but not both
[16:22] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> And IRC is the proposed solution madmoose
[16:23] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> I'm all for whatever works for the community, I don't think anyone needs to dig in their heels about whether the chat software is FOSS or not
[16:23] <mal> on some IRC channels there are bridges to both matrix and telegram which makes things quite interesting
[16:25] <LePhilousophe> mal: technically anyone can be bridged from matrix
[16:25] <LePhilousophe[m]> I am, for example
[16:26] <mal> yes
[16:30] Nick change: mataniko -> _sev
[16:30] <_sev> i'm fake sev
[16:30] Nick change: _sev -> Mataniko
[16:31] Nick change: rootfather -> _sev
[16:31] <_sev> I'm fake sev too
[16:31] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> I mean, that's not great....
[16:31] <_sev> which seems to be an issue by IRC itself...
[16:31] Nick change: _sev -> rootfather
[16:31] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> It's not an IRC issue, it's a IRC bridging issue
[16:32] <Grogbot> <madmoose> @Mataniko The way to deal with impersonation is to kick-ban violators.
[16:32] <Grogbot> <rootfather> why is that an IRC bridging issue? I changed my nickname directly in the IRC channel...
[16:32] <Grogbot> <rootfather> the bridge has nothing to do with it
[16:32] <bgK> mataniko: it's not so much about the software being open source, it's more about the culture / values. See for example: https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/972529263269371904
[16:32] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> Because the IRC bridge is not checking if a user is identified
[16:33] <Grogbot> <SupSuper> if you're gonna be like that, you can just use the discord ids instead of the discord nicknames, but then you lose the server customization
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[16:34] <rootfather> check
[16:35] <LePhilousophe> on a totally unrelated matter, could I consider Platform and Language enums as stable?
[16:36] <LePhilousophe> and by stable I mean that existing enum values won't change across time
[16:36] <Grogbot> <SupSuper> and unless you're on both ends simultaneously, i think the bridge looks fine
[16:37] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> Definitely not. I actually had a problem recently with relying on the Lanaguage enum directly in one of my data files, and it got borked up when a new language was added in the middle of the enum
[16:38] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> Luckily, the problem was detected when the correct data could no longer be found in it 😉
[16:39] <bgK> (the associated codes are stable on the other hand)
[16:42] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> Right. We'll likely always have EN_ANY as a member. Just don't rely on it always being "5", for example.
[16:49] <LePhilousophe> :/
[16:49] <LePhilousophe> so how should I match entries in data file?
[16:49] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> Just above is a good example. EN_ANY was 5 for years, so much so that I could remember it's value of the top of my head. But then a new language was added earlier alphabetically in the list, and suddenly it's now 6.
[16:50] <LePhilousophe> yep I understood that
[16:50] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> What I did was basically to have my own "supported language enum" which would be guaranteed to remain constant, and then have functions to translate to and/from it to a Common::Language
[16:50] <LePhilousophe> :/
[16:51] <LePhilousophe> ok thanks
[16:51] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> Generally speaking, your datafile will likely only have a couple of languages, so the switch statements in your conversion methods should be fairly compact and straightforward.
[16:51] <bgK> What's wrong with Common::getLanguageCode?
[16:52] <LePhilousophe> it's variable length string
[16:52] <LePhilousophe> anyway gtg
[16:52] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> Actually that's not a bad idea if you're designing your data structure from scratch. Good idea. In my case I was constrained by having an existing data file, so it had to be a number
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[16:54] <Grogbot> <Henke37> just give the main enum hardcoded values
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[20:15] <LePhilousophe> @Henke37 it seems it was not the way to go: https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/commit/2044ee1c0d45ee8914a3735b96c028996cc2fb08
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[20:18] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> Man that's old.. nearly 15 years ago :). I'm honestly not sure I agree with fingolfin's position. At the very least, it would be worth adding an extra note to the Language comment that their values are subject to change, if we keep it as is
[20:20] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> Hi, everybody!
[20:20] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> 👋
[20:21] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> G'day
[20:21] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> hey Cassidy
[20:21] <Grogbot> <madmoose> Bono estende
[20:22] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> I've been a huge fan of ScummVM ever since college
[20:22] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> which was 2011-2012 for me
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[20:23] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> well, that's pretty cool 😃
[20:23] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> Yes, it is
[20:24] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> It's great to be able to talk about it on here since I'm more frequent on here than I am on internet forums via Firefox
[20:25] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> We also have an IRC channel for a loooong time, why didn't you join us there?
[20:25] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> (pure curiosity)
[20:26] <Grogbot> <Henke37> because discord is better
[20:27] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> not in my humble opinion 😉 that's why I'm asking
[20:27] <Grogbot> <Henke37> irc is the web as the browser wars began and it never moved on
[20:28] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> I got an IRC client way before having a web browser, in 1992
[20:29] <Grogbot> <madmoose> @Strangerke And IRC hasn't changed since 😛
[20:29] <Grogbot> <SupSuper> comic chat should've been the way forward 😛
[20:29] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> It may be about programmers rather than which discussion software is best, but I always like to fall back to this: https://xkcd.com/378/
[20:29] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> because it's perfect?
[20:30] <Grogbot> <madmoose> No? 😃
[20:30] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> who knows. That'"s why I was asking Cassidy why he joins us now and not before 😉
[20:31] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> @Strangerke I didn't even know internet voice chat was even a thing until I started using Skype.
[20:31] <Grogbot> <Henke37> irc doesn't even have avatars
[20:32] <Grogbot> <DreamMaster> Avatar, know that Britannia is entering a new age of enlightenment
[20:32] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> @Strangerke I didn't start using Skype until college, which was 2011-2012 for me.
[20:32] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> Cassidy: I tested a very fascinating visual IRC in 1992, where you had to paint your message (like using ms paint, really). I'm not surprised it didn't make it to 1993 😄
[20:34] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> @Strangerke Plus, IRL offline life was happening too often for me to partake in stuff like IRC chat. And, even then: my Skype usage diminished greatly after college, until I discovered Discord early 2018 through a Twitch stream's chat.
[20:40] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> Do you use other chats, like Line or Slack ?
[20:43] --> <Grogbot> joined this Discord server in a matter of days
[20:44] <Grogbot> <Henke37> never heard of those ones
[20:44] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> Henke37: you never heard of Slack? 0_o
[20:44] <Grogbot> <madmoose> I'm flabbergasted that you think IRC is attracting new users.
[20:45] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> I know, right?
[20:45] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> What is this, 2003?
[20:45] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> 😆
[20:46] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> madmoose: during my studies, we wrote a Discord-like thing in clipper in 15 minutes, because the sysadmin was hunting IRC...
[20:47] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> it's basically a wall, and it's close-source. I don't understand how it attracts people, particularly if they are less than 150yo
[20:47] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> but obviously it does attract a lot of people 😃
[20:47] <Grogbot> <madmoose> And Dropbox is just a closed source rsync.
[20:48] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> @Strangerke I've used Twitter, Facebook, and Skype. But, Skype has become an afterthought for me after discovering Discord. Facebook has become a joke to me after everything that's happened to them. And I might start using Twitter again. But, I'm not sure on when that'll happen.
[20:48] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> Is it still alive?
[20:48] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> @Strangerke I've used Twitter, Facebook, and Skype. But, Skype has become an afterthought for me after discovering Discord. Facebook has become a joke to me after everything that's happened to them. And I might start using Twitter again. But, I'm not sure on when that'll happen.
[20:57] <Deledrius> TBH, I think anyone who eschews Facebook but uses Discord is a hypocrite... >_>
[20:59] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> What?
[20:59] <Strangerke> Depends why they run away from Facebook
[20:59] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> I ran away 'cause of the Cambridge Analytical scam
[21:00] <Strangerke> And I'm slowly getting away from FB because I'm getting tired of fighting against the fake news that pollute everything
[21:01] <Strangerke> In both cases, Discord doesnt share the problem (yet)
[21:02] <SupSuper> discord has chats, facebook has a real life network, not sure how that's comparable
[21:03] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> Discord has been more real life to me than Facebook
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[21:12] --> <Grogbot> joined discord, I used it basically only for study purposes, because basically half of my university class is on discord (+- 300 people), we help each other, maybe sometimes share bits of homework and it is pretty nice to directly paste images and immediately see them, pin important messages, divide the server into rooms by subjects, etc. I think, in this discord has a huge advantage over IRC.
[21:12] <Grogbot> <Strangerke> If someone has a clue of how the structure definition are stored in the Watcom debug symbols, please poke me.
[21:14] <LePhilousophe> Strangerke: did you check https://reverseengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/13236/how-to-extract-debug-information-from-a-dos-executable-compiled-with-watcom-c-c ?
[21:15] <LePhilousophe> OpenWatcom seems to have a wdump utility
[21:15] <Strangerke> yes
[21:15] <Strangerke> it managed to give me far less than what I guessed manually, in a much more entangled way. And no hint about the structure definitions ;)
[21:16] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> @Vyzigold Are you in college or high school? 'Cause, when I was in college: Discord wasn't invented yet. And that was 2011-2012.
[21:16] <Grogbot> <Vyzigold> college
[21:18] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> Oh
[21:18] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> Well, be thankful that Discord is around now
[21:18] <Grogbot> <SupSuper> a lot happens in 10 years 😉
[21:18] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> Yes, it can
[21:18] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> 😳
[21:20] <Grogbot> <Vyzigold> The student union is actually preparing a server for the whole faculty, so that will be pretty fun, once there is like 2000 people on the same server 😄
[21:25] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> It took my college class 'til my term for them to get an email system specific for the program I was in
[21:25] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> And, bear in mind, they were working on that since the '90s
[21:25] <Grogbot> <Cassidy> 😳 😱
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[21:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9ba6b79 sev-: MADE: Remove leftover code. This lets run gracefully with -p parameter
[21:48] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/fjgWu
[21:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3f7f1a2 bluegr: STARTREK: Remove the FileStream wrapper class
[21:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master 709d606 bluegr: STARTREK: Adapt many usages of Common::SharedPtr() to regular pointers
[21:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master 05301c2 bluegr: STARTREK: Load more messages from RDF files
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[22:21] <Grogbot> <waltervn> I vaguely remember that a user tried to get a scummvm discord off the ground a few years ago. At that time I hadn't even heard of discord
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[22:31] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/fjgl8
[22:31] <Scummette> scummvm/master e8f0e9e bluegr: STARTREK: Rename the different showText() functions for disambiguation
[22:44] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> lets move all github bot stuff to a github channel
[22:44] <Grogbot> <Mataniko> no need to spam the channel
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[22:52] <Grogbot> <criezy> waltervn: you are probably thinking of https://forums.scummvm.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14415
[22:54] <Grogbot> <SupSuper> discords never seem to take off until they're publicly announced
[22:54] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with e8f0e9e9: Success: master-amigaos4
[22:55] <Grogbot> <SupSuper> i guess fans only follow the news pages
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[23:01] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with e8f0e9e9: Success: master-ds. Nice work, all ports built fine now
[23:03] <Deledrius> walternv - That's probably around the time they were giving pay and perks to early adopters in exchange for hostile takeovers of existing project channels and trick people into using to Discord. Gave me a solid idea of what kind of company it was right from the start.
[23:05] <Deledrius> Ah, yeah, look at that. First post from someone, trying to move everyone to the new thing. Funny that. Digitall had the correct response.
[23:06] <Deledrius> At least that one didn't go around replacing all the links in the wiki and elsewhere to the discord like I saw happening in other projects back then.
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