ScummVM IRC Log - 07 Apr 2024

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[00:04] <grogbot> [discord] <plantedwave5190> I noticed a bug in the 2.8.1 Wii port of ScummVM, when playing Freddi Fish 2. The cursor disappears when you click on the safety scissors to equip them from your inventory on the bottom of the screen.
[00:04] <grogbot> [discord] <plantedwave5190> For example, I was doing a playthrough when I need to get the helmet for the trap, and when I equip the scissors, the cursor icon disappeared, so I'm flying blind, unless I bring up the menu (with the HOME Button) or the virtual keyboard (D-pad down).
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[00:12] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @plantedwave5190 : Does this happen with the Win32 desktop port?
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[00:14] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @plantedwave5190 : In either case, please file that as a bug on bugs.scummvm.org
[00:26] <grogbot> [discord] <plantedwave5190> I haven't given it a try yet.
[00:28] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Then please do before filing as a bug against the Wii. It will be a lot easier to debug if it is replicable on a desktop port. If not, we can but it is more problematic
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[00:46] <grogbot> [discord] <chrisis123> This bug https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/14630 is still not fixed so 3DS port definitely is not releasa
[00:46] <grogbot> [discord] <chrisis123> This bug https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/14630 is still not fixed in nightlies so 3DS port definitely is not releasable right now (classic UI works though) (edited)
[00:48] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @chrisis123 : Thank you for indicating the blocker... without 3DS hardware, this is hard to replicate...
[00:48] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> If I built some test builds using the https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=Compiling_ScummVM/Docker toolchain, would you be prepared to test with them?
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[00:52] <grogbot> [discord] <chrisis123> Probably not today as it's far too late here and I need to go to bed already 🙂 But I'd be happy to test them of course (if they're any different than the buildbot builds)
[00:52] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> This would take around 16 builds to be tested to nail this down...
[00:52] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> No problem. Poke me another day.... I will try to do the first three builds i.e. latest master, v2.7.0 and first bisection point to test...
[00:52] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> ready for you then
[00:53] <grogbot> [discord] <chrisis123> Yeah of course I'll try to remember it tomorrow 🙂 (I'm in Europe CEST timezone...)
[00:54] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> I am in BST i.e. GMT+1 ... though my personal timezone varys 🙂
[00:55] <grogbot> [discord] <plantedwave5190> I noticed what caused the bug to occur. The transparency on the cursors are screwed.
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[00:59] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> I would first see if you can replicate on Win32 ... There was an issue with that which I helped to get a fix applied for... but if that is Wii specific, it may need further work
[01:09] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> I would also then check to see if this occurs in v2.8.0 and v2.7.0 i.e. is this a regression... but that needs a new bug filed as there is no bug for this listed in the tracker. I checked
[01:14] <Scummette> [scummvm] mikrosk pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-8: https://is.gd/uj24kW
[01:14] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-8 c08705d mikrosk: BACKENDS: ATARI: Fix numpad mappings
[01:15] <Scummette> [scummvm] mikrosk pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/VQgvzY
[01:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master 17cf6c9 mikrosk: BACKENDS: ATARI: Clarify EmuTOS compatibility
[01:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master e6c06c6 mikrosk: BACKENDS: ATARI: Fix numpad mappings
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[03:05] <grogbot> [discord] <plantedwave5190> I updated the Windows port to 2.8.1, and fired up a few games, and I do not notice the transparency issues with the cursors.
[03:09] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @plantedwave5190 : Please test with a nightly build from https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/dailybuilds ... I suspect the issue is fixed in v2.9.0git as I think the fixes may be past the v2.8.0 branch point and were not backported
[03:10] <grogbot> [discord] <hax0kartik> This bug does not occur if the proper version of freetype2 is used(mentioned in the readme)
[03:11] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @hax0kartik Could you add that note to the bug please? If you don't have a github account to do that. I can
[03:12] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> v2.8.0 branched on 2023-12-16
[03:12] <grogbot> [discord] <hax0kartik> I *do* have a github account ^^
[03:14] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Ah cool... then please update the bug 🙂
[03:14] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Hmm... The WII cursor palette fix went in on 2023-10-02 so should be included in the v2.8.0 and v2.8.1 builds for Wii 😐
[03:16] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @hax0kartik Just that stuff chatted about here will not be remembered, but put the note on the bug and we should deal ... It may require someone to make sure the version of freetype for 3DS is correct.
[03:16] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> for the buildbot toolchain I mean
[03:25] <grogbot> [discord] <hax0kartik> I've left in a comment <https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/14630#comment:8>
[03:28] <grogbot> [discord] <hax0kartik> I previously tested this here: <https://discord.com/channels/581224060529148060/711242520415174666/1176180236740735056>
[03:28] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Thanks, you should add the detail to the bug i.e.
[03:28] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> "At the moment of writing, the version of freetype2 packaged by devkitPro has an issue where it allocates too much data on the stack when ScummVM loads GUI themes. As a workaround, an older version can be used. Version 2.6.5 is known to work well. The instructions below can be used to compile it."
[03:29] <grogbot> [discord] <hax0kartik> cool, let me do thaat
[03:29] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> That will explain why this is... and may help in a possible fix to avoid getting stuck on older version of Freetype i.e. we can create patch and maybe send it to upstream for Freetype
[03:30] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Thanks again for doing this
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[05:24] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> The engine to run Private Eye was the very first one I contributed to this project, let me know if you find any bugs! 😄
[06:01] <grogbot> [discord] <chrisis123> Alright... so this is basically a Devkitpro (and/or a buildbot) issue if I understand correctly? So it seems this is solved now? I never tried the 2.7.0 version from the buildbot but only ever the release version download and there this bug doesn't occur.
[06:01] <grogbot> [discord] <chrisis123> So I assume you don't need my help anymore @_digitall_ ? If you do feel free to send the compiled versions to me though so I can test them 🙂
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[12:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #5686: GUI: Skip games during Mass Add (master...master) https://is.gd/oooRdE
[12:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/g7tzG1
[12:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master e9f2468 HectorRecloud: GUI: Skip games during Mass Add
[12:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/pPasNt
[12:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master f3dbacf : I18N: Update translations templates
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[12:55] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> After reading the news article, all I can say is that those polygons are beautiful
[14:34] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/0kpMKn
[14:34] <Scummette> scummvm/master dec0ec6 sev-: I18N: Update translation (Ukrainian)
[14:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] BJNFNE opened pull request #5739: GOB: Detection improvements (master...gob-version-numbers) https://is.gd/yMAo0S
[15:05] <grogbot> [discord] <clefthemouse> This is kind of a random question, but does anyone know of any way to have a certain piece of data from a game running in ScummVM to be dynamically (as it changes) output to a text file, that I could then have OBS read off of?
[15:05] <grogbot> [discord] <clefthemouse> Basically my Big Idea is to stream King's Quest 6, and have my current points total updating dynamically on screen, which I think would look really slick :Thonk:
[15:11] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @clefthemouse : ScummVM is open source so you could patch the code to output that to log and parse for that value... but if you mean out of the box, no that functionality is far too niche
[15:13] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> KQ6 is running under the SCI engine. You would need to work out which variable in the engine is holding the points (The SCI engine is very much scripted, not hard coded so that depends on the game script code) and then print that value with debug output...
[15:15] <grogbot> [discord] <clefthemouse> Ah, I think that's beyond me, unfortunately...oh well, was a fun idea
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[17:38] <Scummette> [scummvm] ccawley2011 opened pull request #5740: TESTBED: Avoid extra delays when video decoding is slow (master...video-delay) https://is.gd/HaTthM
[17:55] <Scummette> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/cuyCuZ
[17:55] <Scummette> scummvm/master 541badb digitall: MOHAWK: Expand Myst ME (Polish) Map Color Fix To All Stack Maps
[17:55] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/js1Jvg
[17:55] <Scummette> scummvm/master 74106c3 : I18N: Update translation files
[18:15] <grogbot> [discord] <caffeinenyc> Wow, what a small world! First and foremost, THANK YOU THANK YOU for contributing that engine. I bought the CD a long, long time ago but never played it. I didn't count on the fact that the game wouldn't be playable on WinXP, which was frustrating because according to the trailers, it seemed like a pretty awesome game / digital novel.
[18:15] <grogbot> [discord] <caffeinenyc> My 9 year old daughter has been watching Star Trek:TNG and saw Piccard as Dixon Hill. I mentioned that Dixon was a style of detective called "Hard Boiled Detective" and the genre was called "noir". She asked what noir was and I thought of this game. Did a little Googling, and lo and behold, discovered the ScummVM played it! Wow!!!!!!!!! After all these years...
[18:15] <grogbot> [discord] <caffeinenyc> So I went to an abandonware site and downloaded it since I haven't owned the disk in over a decade. Maybe two decades. I tried it, and got this:
[18:15] <grogbot> [discord] <caffeinenyc> https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/15057
[18:15] <grogbot> [discord] <caffeinenyc> Not to be deterred, I went back to a bunch of abandonware sites, downloaded a whole bunch of them, and finally found one that added correctly to ScummVM, so we're going to play that game pretty soon, thanks to you!
[18:19] <Scummette> [scummvm] ccawley2011 opened pull request #5741: TESTBED: Improve video player support on low resolution platforms (master...testbed-video-resolution) https://is.gd/QBsczI
[18:33] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @caffeinenyc : Firstly, please see Rule #0 i.e. https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/help/faq.html#can-i-run-my-pirated-abandonware-warez-unauthorized-copies-of-a-game
[18:34] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Secondly, Private Eye is based on the Philip Marlowe Novel "The Little Sister" by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Chandler ... who pretty much originated that entire genre
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[19:10] <Scummette> [scummvm] lephilousophe opened pull request #5742: ANDROID: Fixes on on-screen buttons (master...hide-burger) https://is.gd/UWUDrm
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[19:40] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #5741: TESTBED: Improve video player support on low resolution platforms (master...testbed-video-resolution) https://is.gd/QBsczI
[19:40] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/lJphPA
[19:40] <Scummette> scummvm/master 642d2f4 ccawley2011: TESTBED: Improve video player support on low resolution platforms
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[20:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] scemino pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/dhOvMi
[20:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master f26e249 scemino: TWP: Fix some warnings with gcc
[20:10] <grogbot> [discord] <plantedwave5190> Last night, I fired up Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo on the 2.8.1 Wii port of ScummVM, and I don't see any transparency issues with the cursors, as they were completely fine. (Yes, I played the 1995 release.)
[20:29] <Scummette> [scummvm] athrxx pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/WtW4H0
[20:29] <Scummette> scummvm/master c7d4c9d athrxx: KYRA: (LOK/Mac) - minor audio code cleanup
[20:29] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #5739: GOB: Detection improvements (master...gob-version-numbers) https://is.gd/yMAo0S
[20:29] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 16 new commits to master: https://is.gd/xtdpX5
[20:29] <Scummette> scummvm/master dfe3c23 BJNFNE: GOB: add version number for GOB2 variant
[20:29] <Scummette> scummvm/master 935d9a9 BJNFNE: GOB: add woodruff version number
[20:29] <Scummette> scummvm/master bef2ea1 BJNFNE: GOB: add version number for Urban Runner
[20:30] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/pL4QIn
[20:30] <Scummette> scummvm/master 968d341 : I18N: Update translations templates
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[21:16] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> So great news! I was able to buy a copy of Total Eclipse in good condition for the C64 including the manual from ebay!! This is in preparation for my new project to build a Commodore 64
[21:17] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> ScummVM doesn't support the C64 game data for Total Eclipse yet, but I'll be ready for when it does
[21:18] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> Does anyone have a link showing documentation on how to make dumps of C64 floppies? This is all very new to me
[21:20] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> What sort of floppy drive(s) do you have
[21:20] <gsish> not cheap but probably good, libraries and museums are said to use this https://kryoflux.com/
[21:21] <gsish> if it's open hardware then you can build your own if you want to
[21:21] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> Buying the floppy was step #1 - I just started 😄 I don't have any C64 hardware yet
[21:21] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> I literally just begun preparing for my build
[21:22] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> This is wonderful, thank you!!
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[21:24] <Scummette> [scummvm] SupSuper pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/5Oxz7r
[21:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master b866d18 SupSuper: VIDEO: Fix Smacker forceSeekToFrame crash when video is stopped
[21:24] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/0VlrOM
[21:24] <Scummette> scummvm/master 90ad722 : I18N: Update translation files
[21:24] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> @plantedwave5190 : Did you test Freddi 2 on a desktop i.e. Win32 port? Any issues?
[21:26] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Kryoflux is eeeh due to the licensing
[21:26] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Heard good things about fluxengine though
[21:26] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> <http://cowlark.com/fluxengine/index.html>
[21:26] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> <http://cowlark.com/fluxengine/doc/disk-commodore.html>
[21:26] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Also is compatible with Greaseweazle <https://github.com/keirf/Greaseweazle/wiki>
[21:28] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> I feel like I'm entering a whole new world. Or going through a time machine
[21:28] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> There aren't any on my end for what it's worth
[21:28] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> This is what I'm supposed to do with my life now
[21:28] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> I will learn so many valuable archival skills. I'm already an archivist but I want to become better
[21:57] <grogbot> [discord] <baconicsynergy> I really like the looks of the Greaseweazle
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[22:38] <grogbot> [discord] <Digitall> Hmm. I hope this is not a Wii specific issue, but will test once I get a copy of Freddi 2 with my Wii to see...
[22:38] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- opened pull request #5743: GUI: Show [?] Help button tooltip on dialog launch (master...start-tooltip) https://is.gd/tbfmnr
[22:39] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> I would say to hold off from that for now, as I'm rewriting the entire graphics system for HE games
[22:40] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> So some things will probably and eventually fix themselves on their own
[22:40] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> I would say to hold off from that for now, as I'm rewriting the entire graphics system for HE games (cursor handling is part of that) (edited)
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