ScummVM IRC Log - 06 Jun 2022

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[00:42] <grogbot> <Retrodude> Not 100% sure but someone may have either accidentally or intentionally shared the server invite with the players of an online game mostly frequented by pre-teenage kids
[00:43] <grogbot> <Retrodude> Hence the lack of coherent messages on their part X)
[00:46] <grogbot> <Retrodude> Apparently the name of the game in question has been set as a banned word on the server, so yeah it's been pretty bad with at least one of these joining a day lately
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[01:02] <Scummette> [scummvm] Doomlazer opened pull request #3971: AGI: Add French UI case (master...master) https://is.gd/XQZ82r
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[02:19] <grogbot> <thesentrygamer> ahh
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[05:23] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> No, I hadn't. Sorry, no idea about that one.
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[05:26] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> Heh. I reported to Disney Support that the newspaper you get with the GOG release of Zak McKracken is such a bad scan that parts of it are almost unreadable. Their response is that they only handle support for the Steam release, so I should contact GOG directly.
[05:27] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> So now I'm writing back to point out that GOG will likely respond that they can only sell what they've been provided with by the developers/copyright holders, so for the next 61 years or so (longer if they want to keep Steamboat Willie out of the public domain), they're probably the only ones who can legally supply GOG with a better scan.
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[05:33] <ScummBot> Build [#1285](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#builders/162/builds/1285) of `master-opendingux-beta-gcw0` completed successfully.
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[05:39] <grogbot> <antoniou79> Btw, the Steam version of the scan is no better. In fact it is the identical file (checked with HxD).
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[05:41] <grogbot> <antoniou79> Fun fact, sometimes GOG will include better scans in the extras than in the game installation folder. This is not the case here though. (It is for Blade Runner)
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[05:50] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> I provided GOG with a scan (they didn't have one at all) of the Prisoner of Ice newspaper, so I don't know what their policy really is. But in this case I'm blaming Disney because they've been whining for decades about the evils of piracy, and lobbied for copyright extensions, so I'd really like them to take responsibility here. (Also, I don't have the Zak newspaper, so I can't make a better scan myself.)
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[05:51] <grogbot> <rootfather> I once submitted a proper scan of the German manual of Blade Runner and they accepted it after a couple of days, that was a really nice experience. I think they are quite happy if users provide additional material.
[05:51] <grogbot> <rootfather> But I contacted GoG directly
[05:52] <grogbot> <antoniou79> Yes I provided the two English manual scans (The ones they now have in extras, not the one in the installed folder)
[05:52] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> They seemed happy about the Prisoner of Ice newspaper, at least. Though I made sure to ask them that they would be allowed to distribute it with the game if I sent the images to them.
[05:52] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> Some of their scans are really bad, unfortunately.
[05:55] <grogbot> <antoniou79> It might not always be the same experience. Someone at the time (when I sent my scans of Blade Runner materials) had written they sent their Spanish manual to GOG too via support, but GOG still has not included that one. If they actually did sent it, maybe it depends on how you contact GOG about this
[05:55] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> Anyway, I reported the Zak newspaper to GOG as well, but made clear in the bug report that this time I really just wanted them to refer me back to Disney.
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[05:57] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> I have had some wildly different experiences with GOG support. I spent ages arguing with them that the version of Phantasmagoria 2 was broken, and they kept saying it wasn't their problem. Then I filed another bug report asking how to contact the upstreams developers, using this as an example of why I couldn't ask GOG for direct support. Within days, hey had magically fixed it. (At least it seemed to work fine when I tried it.)
[05:57] <grogbot> <rootfather> Sounds like it heavily depends on the support rep you are assigned to :/
[06:02] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> I guess so.
[06:06] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> By the way, this was the bit of the Zak newspaper I used for illustration of just how bad it is.
[06:06] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/983250413480452106/lottery.png
[06:06] <grogbot> <rootfather> You... you downscaled it, right?
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[06:06] <grogbot> <rootfather> RIGHT?
[06:06] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> Nope.
[06:06] <grogbot> <rootfather> Yikes.
[06:07] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> Not every article in it is anywhere near that bad, of course. That one is printed with smaller text.
[06:08] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> I tweeted at David Fox that the hardest puzzle in Zak so far (I'm only at the beginning of the game) was deciphering the newspaper. His immediate response: "There are way better scans online!" 😀
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[06:16] <ScummBot> Build [#254](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#builders/159/builds/254) of `daily-master` failed.
[06:26] <grogbot> <Bluddy> GOG broke their version of xcom apocalypse by copying over the wrong executables (there are Pentium and 486 versions), and the OpenApoc devs have been begging them to fix it, to no avail. The version doesn't crash right away but instead develops pernicious bugs over time. It's like talking to a wall.
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[06:42] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Z2fQNx
[06:42] <Scummette> scummvm/master a1da2c2 aquadran: GRIM: Janitorial
[06:45] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-6: https://is.gd/RUL4oY
[06:45] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-6 f11da1d aquadran: WME: 3D part is not yet supported
[06:45] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Y41vyk
[06:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master a956de4 aquadran: WME: 3D part is not yet supported
[06:51] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-6: https://is.gd/kdxPyj
[06:51] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-6 b2de595 aquadran: GRIM: Monkey4 is not yet supported.
[06:51] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/l9cOAX
[06:51] <Scummette> scummvm/master f5de288 aquadran: GRIM: Monkey4 is not yet supported.
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[07:14] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/6Tt3Du
[07:14] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0af0943 neuromancer: HYPNO: implemented helicopter boss fight in boyz
[07:14] <Scummette> scummvm/master 147e970 neuromancer: HYPNO: added end credits in boyz
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[07:24] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> Heh. Others in this thread at least got cool images. All I got was nightmare fuel: https://forums.mixnmojo.com/topic/200452-dall-e-generated-lucasarts-look-alikes/
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[07:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/FyzbFE
[07:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master df5e4c5 sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Fix c2.lingo test
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[08:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer closed pull request #3963: HYPNO: Optimize rendering routines (master...hypno-surface) https://is.gd/ybQ6jZ
[08:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/HfkUja
[08:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master ecc726f ccawley2011: HYPNO: Replace use of Graphics::ManagedSurface with Graphics::Surface
[08:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master 79a752c ccawley2011: HYPNO: Avoid unnecessary scaling
[08:11] <grogbot> <sev> If we ever implement pic substitution for SCUMM, that will be the reason
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[08:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] lotharsm pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/M13mZU
[08:52] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3b41e68 lotharsm: DOC: Replace Discord invite link
[08:53] <Scummette> [scummvm] lotharsm pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-6: https://is.gd/SiWrBS
[08:53] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-6 8db947b lotharsm: DOC: Replace Discord invite link
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[09:15] <grogbot> <Bluddy> meh. I'd take super-resolution over that
[09:22] <Scummette> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn opened pull request #3972: SCUMM: Correctly reposition mouse on loading savegames when using render mode with its own scaling (master...scumm-mouse-reposition-on-load) https://is.gd/SrlTc8
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[10:15] <Scummette> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn closed pull request #3972: SCUMM: Correctly reposition mouse on loading savegames when using render mode with its own scaling (master...scumm-mouse-reposition-on-load) https://is.gd/SrlTc8
[10:15] <Scummette> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/w0Q93k
[10:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6226efc eriktorbjorn: SCUMM: Fix mouse position after load for all rendering modes
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[10:23] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/KyZ0wb
[10:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master e52e41f sev-: DIRECTOR: Improve debug output for bad channel references
[10:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master 36da64c sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Fix the.lingo test so it does not bail out
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[10:39] <Scummette> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-6: https://is.gd/fwKkFG
[10:39] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-6 7e6c614 eriktorbjorn: SCUMM: Fix mouse position after load for all rendering modes
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[11:20] <grogbot> <eriktorbjorn> Oh great, my request has been forwarded to GOG's Product Management Team. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting for them to respond to my request from 3.5 years ago...
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[11:27] <grogbot> <Bluddy> yeah they're useless
[11:28] <grogbot> <Bluddy> it's very sad
[11:31] <grogbot> <Bluddy> the only hard part with super-resolution (it's doable right now) is how to do the sprites. For DOTT it's easy - just make it cartoony as it should be. For other games with pixelated sprites it's much harder. The Sierra SCI games, for example, just have moving blobs. Also, once you upgrade the LucasArts sprites the animations are too sharp and few.
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[11:56] <logix> re "bringing graphics in scummvm games into the 21st century", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sclZDCjUVvI (about AGI games)
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[13:08] <grogbot> <PurpleMoustache> Hey speaking of GOG, Sanitarium is free on GOG today
[13:08] <grogbot> <rootfather> Oh, nice!
[13:09] <grogbot> <PurpleMoustache> I dont remember if that implementation is ready or not in SVM tho
[13:09] <grogbot> <rootfather> In fact, Sanitarium is about to be included in the next stable release as well 🙂
[13:09] <grogbot> <PurpleMoustache> Eyyy
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[13:25] <grogbot> <PurpleMoustache> So uh I apparently already own Sanitarium so heres a direct link to my free copy?
[13:25] <grogbot> <PurpleMoustache> https://www.gog.com/en/redeem/58825-1F832-25162-BA448
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[13:32] <grogbot> <antoniou79> lots of other titles including games that are to be tested before the upcoming 2.6.0 release are included in the sales. (Like Wetlands, The 11th Hour)
[14:50] <grogbot> <Big Beef> fascinating piece of software, but isnt dall-e made with a very restrictive license because they dont want certain people using it for illegal purposes?
[14:50] <grogbot> <Big Beef> or so ive heard
[15:18] <grogbot> <tranquility101> Leisure Suit Larry 2 on STEAM ships with SCUMMVM 1.7.0. And I have like 2.4.x or something on my PC. Thank goodness it plays well with multiple versions but found that interesting.
[15:18] <grogbot> <tranquility101> Oddly Indiana Jones Atlantis didn't ship with SCUMM, thought it would.
[15:22] <grogbot> <dwa> LucasArts saw that they had a new Windows port for the last 10 years but that they had forgotten to release it so it was time to make some return on investment 😁
[15:25] <grogbot> <tranquility101> Pretty cool! Great games now just gotta finish them haha.
[15:25] <grogbot> <tranquility101> Decided to work on Legend of Kyrandia Trilogy first. Great music.
[15:29] <grogbot> <dwa> Yeah, underrated games
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[16:32] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/ZoNhUX
[16:32] <Scummette> scummvm/master 1a4e53d neuromancer: HYPNO: added preliminary implementation of direction selection for level 42 in boyz
[16:32] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #3957: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Implement TextCastMember property STUB (kTheTextFont, kTheTextHeight, kTheTextStyle, kTheTextSize) (master...setFont) https://is.gd/wOdzd7
[16:32] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 8 new commits to master: https://is.gd/979s6b
[16:32] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0a95714 r41k0u: DIRECTOR: GRAPHICS: Add getPlainText() function to MacText
[16:32] <Scummette> scummvm/master f241bde r41k0u: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Implement kTheTextFont, kTheTextStyle, kTheTextHeight and kTheTextSize in Lingo::setField()
[16:32] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6b4cffb r41k0u: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Implement kTheTextSize STUB in TextCastMember->setField() of lingo-object.cpp
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[16:37] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/XWLzuO
[16:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master 93670ed sev-: DIRECTOR: LINGO: Optimize TextCastMember::setField()
[16:39] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/XydJue
[16:39] <Scummette> scummvm/master 84f3b1d Doomlazer: AGI: Add French UI case
[16:39] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #3971: AGI: Add French UI case (master...master) https://is.gd/XQZ82r
[16:40] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-6: https://is.gd/t2aVxd
[16:40] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-6 d10cd91 Doomlazer: AGI: Add French UI case
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[17:05] <grogbot> <gu3> PSA: for anyone interested in testing Wetlands with the upcoming ScummVM 2.6.0 release, we collected a number of demos if you don't have access to the full game (it is on sale, GOG/Steam, but it is understandable if you don't want to spend right now). Anyway, the demos are here: https://downloads.scummvm.org/frs/demos/hypno/ The demos include three different levels from the retail release and should be fully supported. You can even enable
[17:05] <grogbot> cheats if you want (which was not available in original code). Also, if you find some demo that is not detected, please, please let us know and we will add support for it.
[17:31] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/dKj9sg
[17:31] <Scummette> scummvm/master e8f113b sev-: DIRECTOR: Print out D pixelformat on startup
[17:41] <grogbot> <alk> there's software for auto-tweening animations, not sure if it'd look good though
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[19:18] <Scummette> [scummvm] NMIError pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/n46k3y
[19:18] <Scummette> scummvm/master cd0a7d7 NMIError: CHEWY: Finish TMF to MOD conversion
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[19:25] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/TYExEr
[19:25] <Scummette> scummvm/master 29baaab neuromancer: HYPNO: enable granade crossair in boyz
[19:25] <Scummette> scummvm/master e329ec7 neuromancer: HYPNO: load arrow pointers for the direction selection in boyz
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[20:02] <grogbot> <Winderptv> Sorry for just randomly joining @Quote was just curious on what was happening xD
[20:03] <grogbot> <Quote> no worries feel free lol
[20:10] <grogbot> <Winderptv> :TinyPuttSmile:
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[20:23] <Scummette> [scummvm] einstein95 opened pull request #3973: DIRECTOR: Add detection entries from tickets #13438, #13466 (master...director-detection-tickets) https://is.gd/nn9OIs
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[21:17] <Scummette> [scummvm] rvanlaar closed pull request #3973: DIRECTOR: Add detection entries from tickets #13438, #13466 (master...director-detection-tickets) https://is.gd/nn9OIs
[21:17] <Scummette> [scummvm] rvanlaar pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/6rYmeC
[21:17] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3e87cbe einstein95: DIRECTOR: Add detection entries from tickets #13438, #13466
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[21:38] <Scummette> [scummvm] sluicebox pushed 8 new commits to master: https://is.gd/sCUVbz
[21:38] <Scummette> scummvm/master fed2504 sluicebox: SCI: Fix QFG1VGA PC pic window initialization
[21:38] <Scummette> scummvm/master ea48986 sluicebox: SCI: Disable speed tests with script patches
[21:38] <Scummette> scummvm/master a100e03 sluicebox: SCI: Fix SQ4 Skate-O-Rama chase timing
[21:38] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/tMzBOK
[21:38] <Scummette> scummvm/master 80e0489 : I18N: Update translations templates
[21:42] <Scummette> [scummvm] criezy pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/6V0hFp
[21:42] <Scummette> scummvm/master 703372b criezy: AGS: Fix regression with GUI translation option not working
[21:42] <Scummette> scummvm/master 52bf81b criezy: AGS: Fix regression with GUI Text Antialiasing option not working
[21:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/P5KrA9
[21:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master dd24e7d : I18N: Update translation files
[21:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] criezy pushed 2 new commits to branch-2-6: https://is.gd/nwmNEw
[21:43] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-6 6976dd6 criezy: AGS: Fix regression with GUI translation option not working
[21:43] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-6 23ba7d9 criezy: AGS: Fix regression with GUI Text Antialiasing option not working
[21:56] <Scummette> [scummvm] sluicebox pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/YN3v9t
[21:56] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9558095 sluicebox: SCI: Remove trailing array commas
[21:57] <Scummette> [scummvm] dwatteau opened pull request #3974: TOLTECS: Fix unaligned access causing SIGBUS in Screen::addAnimatedSprite() (master...fix/toltecs-addAnimatedSprite-unaligned-access) https://is.gd/pwB7xj
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[23:36] <grogbot> <Big Beef> has anyone ever compared what its like to run scumm games on something like steam proton/wine vs scummvm
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[23:50] <grogbot> <Big Beef> also scummvm just randomly crashed on me while i was playing lsl 1
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