ScummVM IRC Log - 06 Dec 2022

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[01:44] <grogbot> [discord] <Retrotude> The Living Books one in particular is an updated rerelease of the game Arthur's Reading Race that adds one new minigame and quick links to all the minigames on the title screen and... basically nothing else.
[01:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Retrotude> Still kinda strange they have two different games under that name though
[01:53] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Yeah
[01:58] <Endy> eientei: Ouch, that's confusing!

[02:01] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Also don't look at all the Carmen Sandiego releases...
[02:02] <Endy> Where in the World (did this release of Carmen Sandiego come from) :P
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[02:14] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> I ask myself that question every day
[02:21] <grogbot> [discord] <Thunderforge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1049510977734971482/image.png
[02:23] <grogbot> [discord] <Thunderforge> Plus *Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? 3 - New Carmen Adventure*, which is French only.
[02:29] <grogbot> [discord] <Thunderforge> Oh my.
[02:29] <grogbot> [discord] <Thunderforge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1049512843789217812/image.png
[02:30] <grogbot> [discord] <Thunderforge> Even just *Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?*& (edited)
[02:30] <grogbot> [discord] <Thunderforge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1049512843789217812/image.png
[02:30] <grogbot> [discord] <Thunderforge> And this doesn't include the Prodigy or Facebook web games.
[02:41] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Fun fact: Many of them don't share the same engine
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[02:56] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> I think I only liked the original one (?) or one of the first ones anyway. I won the game in a small scale contest in my programming class when I was a kid, but I've since lost the box and floppies.
[02:56] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> I bought the game recently and... it is so not what I remember lol. So many redundant and unnecessary changes. They made it more kid-friendly though, if that's a thing one is worried about. Maybe too kid friendly 😄 (I bought this from the Broderbund website, but it's also available on Steam).
[02:57] <Scummette> [scummvm] einstein95 opened pull request #4513: MOHAWK: Add detection for Arthur's Reading Games and Dr. Seuss Reading Games (master...mohawk) https://is.gd/rpNVJt
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[03:30] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/AtXkFQ
[03:30] <Scummette> scummvm/master 1fdfe5f OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA8: Expand use of common error to in engine to show savegame load errors
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[03:57] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> The one for Apple II?
[06:41] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> Not it must have been for DOS
[06:41] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> No, it must have been for DOS (edited)
[06:59] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> So you have 3 options for "Where in the World":
[06:59] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Regular
[06:59] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Enhanced
[06:59] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Deluxe
[06:59] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> (Screenshots in order)
[06:59] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1049580843426906142/image0.gif
[06:59] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1049580843779248197/image1.png
[06:59] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1049580844156723220/image2.jpg
[07:13] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> If you played a later version, then may the heavens have mercy on your soul
[07:13] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> they were so good... but I think the middle one is an Amiga or Atari ST screenshot
[07:15] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> I can say this though, the one on Steam is the 2000-2002 version or thereabouts, after they moved away from Mohawk
[07:22] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> which I think came about after the TV show, and is thus very different
[07:46] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #4513: MOHAWK: Add detection for Arthur's Reading Games and Dr. Seuss Reading Games (master...mohawk) https://is.gd/rpNVJt
[07:46] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/X9zadn
[07:46] <Scummette> scummvm/master 21c06ed einstein95: MOHAWK: Add detection for Arthur's Reading Games and Dr. Seuss Reading Games
[07:46] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/RSwu2N
[07:46] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3be93df : I18N: Update translations templates
[08:18] <grogbot> [discord] <Andrew T> I like the idea of Carmen Sandiago games being supported but I gather they are not considered adventure games. Very puzzle heavy games through, not so very different from something like The Incredible Machine.
[09:00] <Scummette> [scummvm] phcoder opened pull request #4514: NOTFORMERGE: Switch from zlib to gzio as much as possible (master...zlib3) https://is.gd/ISu13c
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[09:57] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> It should be the first one. Iirc I played on my EuroPC (8088) on a CGA screen.
[10:13] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> So it looked like this
[10:13] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1049629659740000256/Screenshot_20221206-231147_Magic_DosBox_Free.png
[10:13] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1049629660184584202/Screenshot_20221206-231132_Magic_DosBox_Free.png
[10:14] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Funnily enough it isn't
[10:17] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> Yes, seems about right. I remember it being quite "dark". When a criminal attacked you would get an animated screen with a thrown dagger or axe and some short ominous music (played from the PC beeper speaker).
[10:17] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> It had a small database on the criminals that you had access to from the start.
[10:18] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Yep, all the sound in that one is via the PC speaker
[10:19] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> The enhanced version definitely upped both the graphics and music quite a bit
[10:20] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://youtu.be/xjf9s8z7UlI
[10:37] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> oh, yes. That video brings memories. Intro screen, and music and all. I've definitely played that one. Sorry for the confusion, it was a loooo....hoooong time ago,.
[10:40] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Lol all good
[10:58] <grogbot> [discord] <Die4Ever> I liked Where In Space Is Carmen Sandiego, I've thought about adding it to ScummVM myself
[11:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> I didn't know they released VGA versions of those.
[11:46] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> Where in Space was weak, I thought. Possibly due to the fact that there just weren't enough places to go (it's just our solar system if I remember correctly)
[11:52] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> And I really didn't like the switch to high-res VGA, which is only 16 colors. Where in the World Deluxe also had the limitation but somehow pulled it off better.
[12:12] <grogbot> [discord] <Die4Ever> I like the space theme a lot more, and the aliens and music
[12:48] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> maybe it's what you were used to
[12:48] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> (or I was used to)
[12:54] <grogbot> [discord] <Die4Ever> I just never cared about history or geography, but space was my jam
[13:02] <grogbot> [discord] <Bluddy> makes sense.
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[14:01] <Scummette> [scummvm] larsamannen opened pull request #4515: Add Apple TV as platform (master...ls_add_tvos) https://is.gd/8ooIst
[14:09] <grogbot> [discord] <Thunderforge> Probably time to move conversation about Carmen Sandiego to #offtopic unless we are talking about adding it to ScummVM.
[14:30] <Scummette> [scummvm] tag2015 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/wZNgBy
[14:30] <Scummette> scummvm/master aa6dc91 tag2015: DIRECTOR: Improve detection for some entries
[14:30] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/gidUf5
[14:30] <Scummette> scummvm/master bb9ec62 : I18N: Update translation files
[14:48] <Scummette> [scummvm] rsf92 opened pull request #4516: Fix error where launching a game from command line with -p would erase it from scummvm.ini (master...my_work) https://is.gd/hhUSp2
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[19:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] lotharsm pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/MEiuoH
[19:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9b7dc07 lotharsm: NEWS: Update German NEWS file
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[22:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #4504: COMMON: Optimize some array ops. (master...optimize-array-loops) https://is.gd/mEWnii
[22:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/qAzQxf
[22:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master f1bc2b1 elasota: COMMON: Optimize some array ops by hoisting storage pointer to a local so the compiler doesn't have to reload it every iteration.
[23:23] <Scummette> [scummvm] einstein95 opened pull request #4517: DIRECTOR: Fix a couple copy-paste errors in chunks.lingo (master...director_detection) https://is.gd/bHg5Ne
[23:32] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/aarRJw
[23:32] <Scummette> scummvm/master 555669b OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA8: Avoid deleting the running process until after run completes.
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