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[19:51] #scummvm: mode change '+o whiterandrek' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:51] Begasus (~begasus@ptr-4qba4e9yvai2esqym4f.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [20:05] "We are always thrilled to explore new ways to bring our community closer together. Today, we are proud to annouce our next step in this journey - we are now present on Discord!" what a farce, who is this we that he is referring to? there was no discussion about it beforehand, not even a proofreading as is the norm, evident by the typo, who thought it was a good idea to give rootfather commit access? how is [20:05] dividing the community bringing it closer together? that would only make sense if it was an announcement for a bridge between IRC and Discord, now that it's there.. [20:18] ajax16384 (~User@109.60.130.33) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:35] Lightkey: I am sorry you don't like the news. [20:35] We did note Deledrius and your objections on IRC a few weeks ago. [20:35] But we also add some positive feedback from others and after some more discussion we decided to give it a go as we think some people are reluctant to join IRC but might join on Discord. [20:36] And rootfather did not decide this on his own. [20:41] what? we only reacted to it *after* it was opened, someone had already decided it somewhere for them, not anywhere public though, where the team could have given their opinion on it [20:41] yes, you reacted after it was opened, but before we decided to communicate about it outside of IRC [20:42] (and I am not sure how it was decided to open it, as I learned the same as you, about it after the fact) [20:43] wrong word order :-( [20:43] *as I leanred about it the same as you, ... [20:44] i haven't seen anyone leave irc for discord [20:51] and rootfather did ask people to double-check his announcement, clearly a typo was missed [20:51] ..where? [20:51] same as what criezy said, where did that "we" discuss this? I have not seen anyone with a green dot state their opinion on this [20:55] There was some discussion on discord as well. [20:56] ... [20:56] way to make my point [20:57] so the divide already happened before it was even made official [21:05] Listen, I am not going to argue with you. The project is not a democratie and in the end the project owner takes the decision. [21:05] In this instance sev gave the green light to rootfather for posting a news about it. But before that he did ask you on IRC why you were opposed to discord (and you replied). [21:06] Some people are happy about the decision, and others are not. But you would be hard pressed to find any decision that makes everybody happy. [21:13] I would be hard-pressed to find any decision that everybody had a say in it, true [21:14] because, as you say, nobody of the team was asked beforehand [21:16] (except those who were already on Discord, apparently) [21:19] usually, this is what the mailinglist is meant for, I appreciate that it has been rather dead lately but it should not just be ignored or there is no point in keeping it [21:21] Action: Deledrius sighs [21:37] It's not like if you left IRC... It's just yet another communication method [21:38] and it looks much more attracting to people than the Slack channel [21:38] or maybe the slack channel was only used for a couple of GSoC student, now I have a doubt [21:41] Yes I think it was only used by a few GSoC students to discuss with their mentor. [21:41] At least I am not aware there ever was a general scummvm slack channel. [21:43] Very convenient way to contact dreammaster during work hours, if you want my opinion ;) [21:45] slack isn't very appealing to communities since it requires individual registrations [21:45] but true, it camouflages much better in a work pc :p [21:49] I'm more interested by the phone version, but yes [21:50] Anyway, I have been using IRC since 1992, I don't plan to leave it ;) [21:51] the discord app is... meh :p it works [21:52] waltervn (~waltervn@scummvm/undead/waltervn) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:54] whiterandrek (~CVoltage@ppp-109-104-179-20.wildpark.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:54] Strangerke (~Strangerk@cust-208-39-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:55] Strangerke (~Strangerk@cust-208-39-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) joined #scummvm. [21:55] #scummvm: mode change '+o Strangerke' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [21:55] bah, it's like slack [21:55] an mix between IRC and a wall [21:56] That reminds me we could have ended up using discord at work because a manager misheard when somebody mentioned discourse. [21:56] Maybe I can still convince her she heard correctly :-P [21:56] Could be worse... You could be using MS Teams... [21:57] *shudders* [21:57] Teams: at least it's not skype for business! but they're trying... [22:00] well, Skype looks profesional compared to Teams [22:00] for example, there are extremely useful features, like "copy to clipboard" [22:01] in Teams, it's more like "Put random shit in the clipboard. Never mind my selection, just put anything you want" [22:04] i'd consider "receiving messages" an extremely useful feature, yet skype for business (not to be confused with skype, don't ask) doesn't agree [22:04] they may arrive immediately. or hours later. or in your mail. or they just got swallowed by a black hole somewhere [22:05] Did I already mention today how much I love Microsoft and their products? [22:05] Receiving messages is about the only thing that works for us. [22:05] Half of my team was migrated to Windows 10 and Skype for business while the rest of us are still on Windows 7 and Lync. [22:05] So I have experienced first hand the interoperability limitations between the two. We can send messages to each others and that's about it... [22:10] don't worry, it interoperates with teams as well! ...i've never seen it work [22:13] I wonder why GOG have included things like Another World.conf, Broken Sword.conf, and I Have No Mouth.conf in the Kingdom installation. [22:14] And where the hell did they hide the game data files in the mac bundle? [22:15] Oh, there is a bundle inside a bundle inside a bundle. Fun! [22:17] the Mac version won't work out of the box [22:17] it's using Quicktime [22:17] You mean the original mac version? There was one? [22:17] so it's using it for the videos, then it uses it to keep the last frame in a buffer [22:17] The GOG mac version is actually the DOS version bundled with DosBox. [22:18] https://www.mobygames.com/game/kingdom-the-far-reaches [22:18] criezy: they're not in the windows version, so i'm guessing some ctrl+c ctrl+v mistake [22:58] ny00123 (~ny00123@213.137.88.144) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:59] SylvainTV (~Sylvain@lfbn-lil-1-811-bdcst.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:00] --- Thu Jun 6 2019