[00:04] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1148045782327496866/5e8a0f5c494877d20ff6fb00c386a9e4.png [00:06] [discord] So this is very weird, when extracting all the files (except for those 8 .bbb files) from the 4 CD ISO's I get a total of 9709 files at 1,6 GB. And when using the installation wizard I get 12806 files at 3 GB 🧐 [00:07] [discord] So apprently, it can't be the correct way to just copy the files straight from the ISO's. Because so many files are missing that didn't get extracted. Am I right? So should I just install using the Wizard then and copy the missing .bbb files manually? [00:08] [discord] How big are the files that you excluded [00:10] [discord] Not big [00:10] [discord] Then it's probable that your copy doesn't have the same copy protection [00:11] [discord] 20-60 mb -ish [00:12] [discord] So I should look for very large files then? [00:13] [discord] Chrisis said: [00:13] [discord] "But yeah you may be right for example the files 1002.bbb and 1002_lo_res.bbb on CD 1 (in /global/xarc) which show as over 900mb each (which is of course impossible on a CD) don't get installed by the installer (honestly I have no idea if they are needed/used or simply to check for the CD by the original exe)." [00:13] [discord] So I guess near 1 GB files should be "copy-write-protection-dummies" ?? [00:20] [discord] Hm... the largest file on CD 1 is 1002.bbb coming in at 65 megabytes. How do I know if the Swedish 4 CD version has some kind of protection? @chrisis123 Can you help please? [00:51] [discord] Ok so I made a mistake earlier, I counted the file with the TLJ HD mod files included 🫠 So now it looks like this: [00:51] [discord] ```9562 files, 1,00 GB after using installation wizard [00:51] [discord] 9717 files, 1,77 GB after copying files from the 4 ISO's [00:51] [discord] 125 .bbb files in Global>xarc folder weighing in at 796 MB (in the folder with the manually copied files) [00:51] [discord] Only 4 .bbb files got copied from Global>xarc folder when using wizard weighing in at 12,1 MB [00:51] [discord] To sum it up: The install wizard missed to copy 155 files, of which 121 files were .bbb files (from Global>xarc folder) and the rest were 34 unknown files``` [00:51] [discord] Ok so I made a mistake earlier, I counted the file with the TLJ HD mod files included 🫠 So now it looks like this: [00:51] [discord] ```9562 files, 1,00 GB after using installation wizard [00:51] [discord] 9717 files, 1,77 GB after manually copying files from the 4 ISO's [00:51] [discord] 125 .bbb files in Global>xarc folder weighing in at 796 MB (in the folder with the manually copied files) [00:51] [discord] Only 4 .bbb files got copied from Global>xarc folder when using wizard weighing in at 12,1 MB [00:51] [discord] To sum it up: The install wizard missed to copy 155 files, of which 121 files were .bbb files (from Global>xarc folder) and the rest were 34 unknown files``` (edited) [01:00] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1148060019493982259/67e8eac9f2cc7a077a7c08424190d179.png [01:02] [discord] Question to the ScummVM team: Why isn't the .dll and .cab files needed to be copied? Must they not they be copied? What happens if they are anyway? ScummVM will break? @everyone [01:03] [discord] Ok so I made a mistake earlier, I counted the folder with the TLJ HD mod files included 🫠 Corrected now. So now it looks like this: [01:03] [discord] ```9562 files, 1,00 GB after using installation wizard [01:04] [discord] 9717 files, 1,77 GB after manually copying files from the 4 ISO's [01:04] [discord] 125 .bbb files in Global>xarc folder weighing in at 796 MB (in the folder with the manually copied files) [01:04] [discord] Only 4 .bbb files got copied from Global>xarc folder when using wizard weighing in at 12,1 MB [01:04] [discord] To sum it up: The install wizard missed to copy 155 files, of which 121 files were .bbb files (from Global>xarc folder) and the rest were 34 unknown files``` (edited) [01:54] DominusExult (~dominus@exult/developer/dominus) joined #scummvm. [01:56] Dominus (~dominus@exult/developer/dominus) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [01:56] Nick change: DominusExult -> Dominus [02:00] speachy (~speachy@rockbox/developer/speachy) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 4.0.4 [02:00] gsi (~gsi@dynamic-077-015-004-190.77.15.pool.telefonica.de) joined #scummvm. [02:04] gsi_ (~gsi@dynamic-077-179-084-070.77.179.pool.telefonica.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [02:21] logix (logix@shell.franken.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:22] logix (logix@shell.franken.de) joined #scummvm. [02:35] [discord] the dll and cab files don't contain actual game data, hence don't need to be copied. scummvm won't mind if they are though [02:36] [discord] Because ScummVM acts as a replacement for the executable. The .cab and .dll files are only needed for installation. [02:37] [discord] ScummVM won't break if they're copied, they just take up extra space [02:41] reset (~reset@user/reset) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:09] reset (~reset@user/reset) joined #scummvm. [04:20] Build [#8660](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/builders/94/builds/8660) of `master-dreamcast-debug` failed. [04:35] [discord] if the file is just 65 mb then you should copy it over as it says in the regular instrucitons on the wiki: https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=The_Longest_Journey [04:36] [discord] I have only access to the German 4-CD version of the game (as well as English Steam and GOG versions) so I don't have any information on if the Swedish (or any other version) uses the same copy protection as the German version... [05:01] Build [#705](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/builders/159/builds/705) of `daily-master` failed. [05:02] [discord] if the file is just 65 mb then you should copy it over as it says in the regular instructions on the wiki: https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=The_Longest_Journey (edited) [05:14] [discord] I have now added a clarification to the Wiki that the "Alternative versin" only applies to the German 4-CD version and the regular instructiions should be used in all other cases, as it seems this was somewhart unclear [05:15] [discord] I have now added a clarification to the Wiki that the "Alternative method" only applies to the German 4-CD version and the regular instructiions should be used in all other cases, as it seems this was somewhart unclear (edited) [05:48] [discord] 69 [05:54] [discord] I have now added a clarification to the Wiki that the "Alternative method" only applies to the German 4-CD version and the regular instructiions should be used in all other cases, as it seems this was somewhat unclear (edited) [05:54] [discord] I have now added a clarification to the Wiki that the "Alternative method" only applies to the German 4-CD version and the regular instructions should be used in all other cases, as it seems this was somewhat unclear (edited) [07:20] ldevulder (~ldevulder@2a01:e0a:4f3:5890:ce2d:e0ff:fe68:3ff5) joined #scummvm. 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[14:28] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat [14:28] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) left irc: Client Quit [15:23] [discord] By the way, does anyone know how to make Scumm NOT quit after quitting a game? It's annoying to have to relaunch Scumm each time. [15:28] [discord] https://docs.scummvm.org/en/v2.7.0/settings/gui.html#guireturn [15:29] [discord] The description is not great. But from what I remember it should always return to the launcher when quitting a game (whichever method is used to quit the game). [15:37] [discord] That's it, thanks criezy! [15:40] [discord] There's a shitton of different shaders, is there any documentation on them? So I can get an idea of how they affect the graphics? [15:47] _sev (~sev@2a02-a457-5d44-1-9487-d103-faa7-d3a7.fixed6.kpn.net) joined #scummvm. [15:47] _sev (~sev@2a02-a457-5d44-1-9487-d103-faa7-d3a7.fixed6.kpn.net) left irc: Changing host [15:47] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) joined #scummvm. [15:47] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat [15:48] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) left irc: Client Quit [15:49] _sev (~sev@81-205-47-249.fixed.kpn.net) joined #scummvm. [15:49] _sev (~sev@81-205-47-249.fixed.kpn.net) left irc: Changing host [15:49] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) joined #scummvm. [15:49] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat [16:03] [discord] We don't have much in the ScummVM documentation currently. But a few weeks ago somebody posted a link to a nice site to compare the shaders: https://discord.com/channels/581224060529148060/581224061091446795/1138122066474840135 [16:03] ny00123 (~ny00123@77.125.33.184) joined #scummvm. [16:32] [scummvm] eriktorbjorn opened pull request #5312: SCUMM: Add settings entry for Mac Loom (master...mac-loom-settings-entry) https://is.gd/1zFA0F [16:36] [discord] Hm, the shaders doesn't seem to work in TLJ anyway. Wonder why. [16:37] Smedles (~quassel@218-215-61-148.sta.wbroadband.net.au) left irc: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. [16:37] Smedles (~quassel@218-215-61-148.sta.wbroadband.net.au) joined #scummvm. [16:39] [discord] I'm pretty sure none of the 3D-engines support the shaders but I guess any of the developers could better explain the reason why 🙂 (TLJ, while a traditional Point and Click adventure, has 3D-models on 2D-backgrounds similar to Grim Fandango) [16:39] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [16:39] _sev (~sev@2a02-a457-5d44-1-9487-d103-faa7-d3a7.fixed6.kpn.net) joined #scummvm. [16:39] _sev (~sev@2a02-a457-5d44-1-9487-d103-faa7-d3a7.fixed6.kpn.net) left irc: Changing host [16:39] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) joined #scummvm. [16:39] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat [16:41] [discord] Thanks for the reply Chrisis, I understand. But what about Reshade then? I guess it's not .glslp so won't work regardless? [16:42] [discord] @pappaslask please, do not violate this server rules, particularly rule #3 [16:42] [discord] Excuse me? [16:42] [discord] read the rule #3 [16:42] [discord] you accepted those on joining [16:43] [discord] Hm, I don't understand. Who did I insult? [16:43] [discord] I believe i came across as being friendly over here [16:43] [discord] you used bad language when referring to abundance of sharders [16:43] [discord] you used bad language when referring to abundance of shaders (edited) [16:44] [discord] Oh, that [16:44] [discord] yes, I am sure, it is not difficult to follow [16:44] [discord] and in general, welcome! [16:45] [discord] I didn't mean to offend anyone, it just came out naturally to me. I will be more careful about my language over here in the future sir [16:45] [discord] thank you! 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[18:55] [discord] I don't know what to do with the tools or the files 🫤 [18:55] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1148330594024038440/c1153f6e7edeb697d22413852a2e810b.png [18:57] [discord] Thanks! And, I didn't mean to offend anyone, it just came out naturally to me. I will be more careful about my language over here in the future sir (edited) [19:13] [discord] @pappaslask it is not somethng we wrote, so no, we have no idea [19:16] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [19:18] _sev (~sev@2a02-a457-5d44-1-9487-d103-faa7-d3a7.fixed6.kpn.net) joined #scummvm. [19:18] _sev (~sev@2a02-a457-5d44-1-9487-d103-faa7-d3a7.fixed6.kpn.net) left irc: Changing host [19:18] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) joined #scummvm. [19:18] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat [19:20] _sev (~sev@scummvm/sev) left irc: Client Quit [19:29] _sev (~sev@81-205-47-249.fixed.kpn.net) joined #scummvm. 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I just happened to hang around here for freaking 19 years, and I do know a thing or two [22:00] [discord] you feel super entitled [22:01] [discord] and indeed, you violated rules of this server on your second or third sentense here, just after accepting them. Though, you just reminded me, I do not remember those stupid things [22:01] CAT_S (apic@brezn3.muc.ccc.de) joined #scummvm. [22:02] [discord] and I was not rude but explanatory. you asked me to shut up [22:02] [discord] don't you agree? [22:02] ny00123 (~ny00123@77.125.33.184) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:03] [discord] @pappaslask? [22:09] [discord] I know people like you, and I also know there's no point trying to have a discussion like this. So I'm choosing a different approach. Good luck with your future projects 👍 [22:18] balrog (znc@user/balrog) left irc: Quit: Bye [22:22] balrog (znc@user/balrog) joined #scummvm. 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