ScummVM IRC Log - 04 Nov 2022

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[01:41] <Scummette> [scummvm] moralrecordings opened pull request #4392: WIP: DIRECTOR: Fixes for Devo (master...debugger) https://is.gd/Ii3Jhx
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[04:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] sluicebox pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/zu8B5O
[04:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master f779535 sluicebox: SCI: Fix vector pattern regression
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[06:21] <Scummette> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/LxXC37
[06:21] <Scummette> scummvm/master c38ea63 digitall: MTROPOLIS: Fix Comparison with Correct Enumerated Type
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[09:43] <grogbot> [discord] <TiCoKH> When I started reversed FMTowns Ultima Trilogy, partial (machine) translated lots of FMT C and Assembly manuals. If somebody interested in I can share somewhere.
[09:47] <grogbot> [discord] <TiCoKH> When I started reversing FMTowns Ultima Trilogy, partial (machine) translated lots of FMT C and Assembly manuals. If somebody interested in I can share somewhere. (edited)
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[10:36] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> The FMTowns screenshots look really good: https://www.mobygames.com/game/fmtowns/ultima-trilogy-i-ii-iii/screenshots/gameShotId,501556/
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[10:56] <Scummette> [scummvm] macca8 opened pull request #4393: ENGINES: Prevent autosave overwriting regular save without warning (master...prevent-autosave-overwriting-regular-save) https://is.gd/tW0l3p
[11:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] macca8 closed pull request #4358: ENGINES: Fix detection of existing save stored in autosave slot (master...fix-detection-of-existing-save) https://is.gd/1tHjVW
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[11:54] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> Hi. Is this a good place to ask about some issues i have with adding the games to the program?
[11:58] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> It is.
[11:59] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> But keep in mind the basic rule for such discussion (ie. no "warez")
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[12:02] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> ok. So I am having trouble adding some games to the program. I have read how to do it and i have seen compatibility list. The game I am trying to add is Discworld. Program doesn't see any game files in the folder. Also tried mounting the ISo and pointing the program to virtual drive. It sees no game. Also Discworld Noir. It doesn't see any game files in folder. Only game i managed to add and run is The Longest Journey.
[12:02] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> What am i doing wrong here?
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[12:06] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> As far as I know, Discworld Noir is not supported by ScummVM.
[12:06] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> For Discworld, the files required in your game data folder, so that ScummVM can detect it are listed here: <https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=Discworld>
[12:06] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Extract the files from the disc, put them in a folder, then add that game to ScummVM like antoniou linked ^
[12:07] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> As you have made an iso of your CD, you can use 7zip to extract all the files to a folder
[12:09] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> Also keep in mind, on some Operating Systems, like Windows, the "Add Game" functionality of ScummVM will allow you to choose a folder, but may not show you a list of files in that folder. That is expected. Just point ScummVM to the correct game folder, click Ok, and let it tell you if it found a valid game or not.
[12:12] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Alternatively, use the "Mass add" and let it scan through the folders you extracted from the disc
[12:13] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> i did extract the game and it doesn't see anything in folder
[12:14] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> hmm. it detected floppy version of discworl
[12:15] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> hodor. gonna try something else
[12:17] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> I am not familiar with Discworld's folder structure when extracted, but ScummVM may require some files to be copied in the outmost folder (first "level" of folders)
[12:17] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> ie. the files listed in the wiki link
[12:17] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> I am not familiar with Discworld's folder structure when extracted, but ScummVM may require some files to be copied in the outmost game data folder (first "level" of folders) (edited)
[12:18] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> ok. so i would need to extract the iso itself? Because i see the game has the iso folder with disc image and other folder with save files and drivers
[12:20] <grogbot> [discord] <TiCoKH> yes That is why I prefer this version from early Ultimas, and 1-3 is a same engine on FMTowns. Would be great play on my vita but is to under-powered for good emulator, so I try add support to scummvm (in a far future).
[12:27] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> ok i did extract the iso with 7 zip and it found the game but it doesn't start it. says some files are missing.
[12:28] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1038067257215033404/Screenshot_24.png
[12:30] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> it runs the floppy version of game no problem
[12:37] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> If you have the files mentioned in the error message, copy them to the main data folder
[12:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> https://tenor.com/view/sacha-baron-cohen-great-success-yay-gif-4185058
[12:46] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> actually got this running earlier in Dosbox-x. But that was a pain to set up. And it actually looks and sounds better in ScummVM
[12:48] <grogbot> [discord] <dwa> you may want to upgrade to ScummVM 2.6.1, as there were some Discworld fixes
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[12:49] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> Is there option to change garphics, sound atc while the game is running? Any hotkey?
[12:51] <grogbot> [discord] <dwa> see
[12:51] <grogbot> [discord] <dwa> https://docs.scummvm.org/en/v2.6.1/advanced_topics/understand_graphics.html
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[13:00] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> Also, see here for some default hotkeys, although I am not sure if all of these work for all game engines:
[13:00] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> <https://docs.scummvm.org/en/v2.6.1/use_scummvm/keyboard_shortcuts.html>
[13:01] <grogbot> [discord] <antoniou79> There are a few in there for adjusting the graphics mode (scaling, stretching, filtering etc). But only muting all sounds, as far as sound setting is concerned
[13:14] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> 👍
[13:21] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> what if a game is multiple ISO's? Do i need to extract all of them in 1 folder?
[13:53] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> Yes. See https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/use_scummvm/game_files.html :
[13:53] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > Multi-disc games
[13:53] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> >
[13:53] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > ScummVM needs access to all the data files, so it will not be able to run directly from a CD if the game has multiple discs. To add a multi-CD game, copy the required data files from the CD to a folder on your hard drive. For a list of required files, see the wiki entry for the game youre playing.
[13:53] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> >
[13:53] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > As a general guideline, where there are duplicate, identical files (same name, same file size) on more than one disc, only one copy of the file is required. Where there are files that have the same name but are different on each disc, rename them. For example, where there is a music.clu on two discs, rename the file on the first disc to music1.clu and the file on the second disc to music2.clu.
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> Yes. See https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/use_scummvm/game_files.html#multi-disc-games :
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > **Multi-disc games**
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> >
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > ScummVM needs access to all the data files, so it will not be able to run directly from a CD if the game has multiple discs. To add a multi-CD game, copy the required data files from the CD to a folder on your hard drive. For a list of required files, see the wiki entry for the game youre playing.
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> >
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > As a general guideline, where there are duplicate, identical files (same name, same file size) on more than one disc, only one copy of the file is required. Where there are files that have the same name but are different on each disc, rename them. For example, where there is a music.clu on two discs, rename the file on the first disc to music1.clu and the file on the second disc to music2.clu. (edited)
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> Yes. See https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/use_scummvm/game_files.html#multi-disc-games :
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > **Multi-disc games**
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> >
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > ScummVM needs access to all the data files, so it will not be able to run directly from a CD if the game has multiple discs. To add a multi-CD game, copy the required data files from the CD to a folder on your hard drive. For a list of required files, see the wiki entry for the game youre playing.
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> >
[13:55] <grogbot> [discord] <Noli> > As a general guideline, where there are duplicate, identical files (same name, same file size) on more than one disc, only one copy of the file is required. Where there are files that have the same name but are different on each disc, rename them. For example, where there is a `music.clu` on two discs, rename the file on the first disc to `music1.clu` and the file on the second disc to `music2.clu`. (edited)
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[16:13] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> Where did you get these files from?
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[16:42] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> From Myabandonvare. Also did find the answer about multi disc games on forum and renamed 3 files in Discworld II to have numbers 1 and 2 in them as mentioned in post from Noli.
[16:43] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> Yeah, that was what I was afraid of, given the problems you were facing.
[16:43] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> We have a 0 tolerance policy to piracy Im afraid, and abandonware is just that by a different name.
[16:44] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> Which means that I will have to ban you now.
[16:44] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> aren't all games there exactly that? Abandonvare? I know that they also list some games that aren't abandonvare. But those games just have a link to buy them on GOG
[16:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Tea> people are still asking that in 2022?
[16:45] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> Abandonware is not a legal thing. Copyright lasts 95 years on software.
[16:45] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> So bye now
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[16:45] <grogbot> [discord] <Duckman> ok. sorry. bye
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[19:26] <grogbot> [discord] <Patrick J Furlong> What versions of Ultima are needed? Thanks
[20:09] <Scummette> [scummvm] AndywinXp pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/W9tHy2
[20:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0a303f4 AndywinXp: SCUMM: COMI: Save camera freeze state
[21:01] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> Early preview of the Freescape engine running in OpenGL mode (HD mode)
[21:01] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1038196366817644626/scummvm-totaleclipse-00000.png
[21:02] <grogbot> [discord] <Patrick J Furlong> (I'm not asking for warez or software, just asking so I know what formats I need to source to play Ultima games)
[21:02] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> (UI is still 320x200 and needs to be upscaled or redesigned)
[21:02] <grogbot> [discord] <Patrick J Furlong> Looking good @gu3 - is that the Amiga one or C64?
[21:03] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> This is from the DOS (EGA) release. For Driller, it will have initial support for DOS (EGA) and Amiga, AtariST.
[21:04] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> C64 / Amstrad and ZX Spectrum support depends on decoding some shading information (only 4 colors are available, so developers needed to do all the possible tricks to show something useful in the screen)
[21:05] <grogbot> [discord] <Patrick J Furlong> Never seen the DOS versions before. Will it let you use the Amstrad CPC, Sinclair Spectrum or C64 versions at all (I have them on these formats)
[21:05] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> Yes!
[21:05] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> All the versions will eventually supported
[21:05] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> All the versions will eventually be supported (edited)
[21:05] <grogbot> [discord] <Patrick J Furlong> A friend of mine made a game using the Freescape engine (thanks to the 3D Construction Kit on the Amstrad)
[21:05] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> 3D Construction Kit games will be also supported
[21:06] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> it is basically the same engine, with a few modifications
[21:06] <grogbot> [discord] <Patrick J Furlong> I'll have to let her know about that
[21:07] <grogbot> [discord] <Patrick J Furlong> you'd never think Freescape was created on the Amstrad CPC.. quite an acomplishment at the time
[21:18] <grogbot> [discord] <PanpukinArt> Hey there! Bought one of my favorite childhood games, Full Pipe, recently. This is the error that pops up. I know that Full Pipe is compatible with Scumm VM - this is the kind of issue the program fixes, right?
[21:18] <grogbot> [discord] <PanpukinArt> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1038200697335857272/image.png
[21:19] <grogbot> [discord] <PanpukinArt> Just want to ask this here specifically before I install SVM and all, thank you
[21:25] <grogbot> [discord] <criezy> Usually the compatibility table on the website contains some info: <https://www.scummvm.org/compatibility>
[21:25] <Scummette> [scummvm] tag2015 pushed 3 new commits to master: https://is.gd/M4EHsz
[21:25] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3461d8e tag2015: DIRECTOR: Comment out unconfirmed, remove duplicate
[21:25] <Scummette> scummvm/master 02e765a tag2015: DIRECTOR: Fix/improve some detections
[21:25] <Scummette> scummvm/master c4897e7 tag2015: DIRECTOR: Fix filesize for D3 entries (B)
[21:26] <grogbot> [discord] <criezy> Look for Ultima there, click on the game you are interested in, and the game specific page should specify which versions are supported.
[21:26] <grogbot> [discord] <Patrick J Furlong> thanks
[21:29] <grogbot> [discord] <criezy> @PanpukinArt This looks like an issue with the original executable. So indeed using ScummVM instead should fix that.
[21:30] <grogbot> [discord] <PanpukinArt> Awesome, thank you!
[21:30] <grogbot> [discord] <PanpukinArt> I'm so excited for it to work. It was one of the first video games I ever played :)
[21:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/wFfAP0
[21:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 58e0fa5 OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA8: Update mini-map on run instead of paint and do not close on toggle.
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[22:34] <grogbot> [discord] <PanpukinArt> It works :D
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