ScummVM IRC Log - 02 Oct 2020

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[02:34] <Lightkey> https://mixnmojo.com/news/As-Monkey-Island-turns-30-the-internet-turns-bearable
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[03:36] <Lightkey> https://blog.ifcomp.org/post/630789823092883457/welcome-to-the-26th-annual-ifcomp Great timing! New record of 104 contenders at 1.5 GB. Most are web-based or use Glulx, with a few ADRIFT, Quest, TADS, and Z-code entries included.
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[05:37] <Deledrius> nice
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[08:14] <zoobab> hi, I met one belgian dev of ScummVM in 2017 at GSOC mentor summit, any idea what's the name of the guy?
[08:52] <grogbot> <criezy> zoobab: my guess would be Arnaud (his nick is Strangerke). He is French, but he lives in Belgium.
[08:53] <Endy> And is a lovely person :)
[08:58] <zoobab> yeah belgians can detect frenchies at their first word
[08:59] <zoobab> a friend if packaging ScummVM inside a docker with Xpra, so that you can play it in a browser
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[09:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3c96f78 digitall: KEYMAPPER: Fix GCC Compiler Warning for Signed vs Unsigned Comparison
[09:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] antoniou79 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUHLA
[09:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master 50d2ae3 antoniou79: OPENGL: Use nearest neighbor scaling for overlay UI when filtering is disabled
[09:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master 50eb038 antoniou79: ANDROID: Comment about related bug report for transient config options
[09:47] <Scummette> [scummvm] antoniou79 pushed 2 new commits to branch-2-2: https://git.io/JUHtm
[09:47] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-2 06c8890 antoniou79: OPENGL: Use nearest neighbor scaling for overlay UI when filtering is disabled
[09:47] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-2 6103813 antoniou79: ANDROID: Comment about related bug report for transient config options
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[09:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] antoniou79 pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-2: https://git.io/JUHtz
[09:52] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-2 301c4ef antoniou79: ANDROID: Increase version code for 2.2.1c
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[13:01] <Scummette> [scummvm] AReim1982 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUH4S
[13:01] <Scummette> scummvm/master c0062fe AReim1982: WII: Fix compilation with flag: disable-16bit
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[14:27] <grogbot> <rootfather> zoobab, that's really cool
[14:31] <grogbot> <Henke37> cool and more than a smidge insane
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[15:34] <grogbot> <rsn8887> what is xpra?
[15:34] <grogbot> <rsn8887> I love that interactive fiction is still so popular and going strong.
[15:36] <grogbot> <rsn8887> I once dabbled a bit with Inform, an IDE to write interactive fiction. It is so cool. I could write sentences like Chapter 1 Jim is a person in the hallway. The hallway is east of the lab. The lab contains a laser. A laser is an unmovable object. When staring into a laser, say "Are you sure you want to stare into the laser?" and they would become a game!!!
[15:38] <grogbot> <rsn8887> The output of Inform was a .z file that could run in Frotz etc.
[15:41] <grogbot> <rsn8887> Here is the webpage, a stellar piece of software: http://inform7.com
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[15:57] <grogbot> <rsn8887> It might become a bit unwieldy to write a large game with complex logic in it. The benefit: the source code reads like a book in itself.
[15:57] <grogbot> <rsn8887> I think they called it natural language programming or so.
[16:00] <grogbot> <madmoose> They said the same thing about COBOL.
[16:01] <grogbot> <SupSuper> yeah the sentences quickly become very unnatural as your game gets more complex, but it is neat
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[16:11] <grogbot> <rsn8887> I think some award-winning games were actually written using Inform. But those games contain a lot of hard-to-read boilerplate sentences in the beginning, defining rules and grammar.
[16:11] <grogbot> <rsn8887> IF games are prone to subtle bugs.
[16:13] <grogbot> <rsn8887> For example, in the brilliant game 9:05 by Adam Cadre, you can "pick up car" instead of entering it, and it works. You just take the car and have it in your inventory. The authors have to think of everything weird the user might type.
[16:14] <grogbot> <rsn8887> Some IF games are quite free, almost like open world games.
[16:15] <grogbot> <rsn8887> I think early Lucasarts titles like Maniac Mansion and Zak McKracken still had that mindset from IF games. They modeled a world. You could turn on/off every light switch, you could open/close every drawer and door. This is how it was in many IF games.
[16:16] <grogbot> <rsn8887> As games matured, the user was given less options to interact, everything became more streamlined IMO.
[16:16] <grogbot> <rsn8887> Authors focused on game experiences instead of playing around with the capabilities of the medium.
[16:20] <grogbot> <rsn8887> Nowadays, even in games that call themselves open world games, the interactions with the world are still more limited than in those old games. In most open world games, you can't even open or close doors, let alone turn light switches on or off. Your interactions are limited to shooting stuff mostly.
[16:21] <grogbot> <rsn8887> Shen Mue on Dreamcast was one of those games that continued this idea of interacting with everything. You could open all drawers etc. However, it becomes a bit tedious after a while, especially in 3D
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[16:51] <Scummette> [scummvm] antoniou79 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUH9u
[16:53] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3191493 antoniou79: ANDROID: Reduce more Lint warnings
[16:53] <Scummette> [scummvm] antoniou79 pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-2: https://git.io/JUH9K
[16:53] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-2 3f177b5 antoniou79: ANDROID: Reduce more Lint warnings
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[17:56] <grogbot> <timofonic> Maybe real open world games will be back in VR once it gets mature enough, with a totally natural HID and not need to move by using some brain interface. But please don't make it like Videodrome :P
[17:57] <grogbot> <timofonic> In 3D, I mean
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[19:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUHp5
[19:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master c375a93 sev-: DEVTOOLS: Print usage information for encode-macbinary.sh
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[19:36] <Scummette> [scummvm] whiterandrek pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUQeg
[19:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master 28bbc7d whiterandrek: PETKA: use math constants
[19:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master e82fbdd whiterandrek: PETKA: QObjectBG completed
[19:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master e75ee3f whiterandrek: PETKA: completed video system
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[20:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] whiterandrek pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUQfX
[20:11] <Lightkey> sluicebox: https://twitter.com/decafjedi/status/1311829108159123456
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[20:26] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 7e41be48: Failure: master-openpandora, master-caanoo, master-dingux, master-gp2xwiz
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[20:51] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 7e41be48: Failure: master-osx_intel
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[21:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6025f75 whiterandrek: PETKA: stop walk when clicking on object
[21:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master 93ae63e whiterandrek: PETKA: set walk background when loading room
[21:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master 16b2165 whiterandrek: PETKA: recalculate needed xOffset
[21:12] <Scummette> [scummvm] whiterandrek pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUQI4
[21:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master b7f408b whiterandrek: PETKA: fix show opcode
[21:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master 8e7425e whiterandrek: PETKA: fix WalkVich opcode
[21:12] <Scummette> scummvm/master 815a032 whiterandrek: PETKA: fix WalkTo opcode
[21:34] <grogbot> <antoniou79> lol, in trying to fix the lint warnings for Android, I've removed the icon that it said it wasn't used, but apparently it was used (?). This affects the dev build 2.3.0 only and will be fixed in a next commit (soon, probably tomorrow after I get some sleep)
[21:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] whiterandrek pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUQtj
[21:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 145cb96 whiterandrek: PETKA: fix JumpVich opcode
[21:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master e472b7b whiterandrek: PETKA: fix min walk distance
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[22:10] <Scummette> [scummvm] antoniou79 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JUQqa
[22:10] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7e174a0 antoniou79: ANDROID: Restore app icon that got wrongly removed
[22:11] <Scummette> [scummvm] antoniou79 pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-2: https://git.io/JUQqo
[22:11] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-2 0baa138 antoniou79: ANDROID: Restore app icon that got wrongly removed
[22:12] <grogbot> <antoniou79> eh, what is sleep really. Fixed.
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