ScummVM IRC Log - 02 Jan 2020

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[02:19] <grogbot> <warwon> puzzled by my recent hard crashes in scummvm, two different games one from gog and the other the black calduron, just randomly kills nvlddmkm (nvidia), and requires a hard reboot. no other games or systems having issues
[02:19] <grogbot> <warwon> strangeness
[02:22] <grogbot> <warwon> any issues with the oct 5th, 2.1 build?
[02:32] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> Really sounds like a problem with the video card driver rather than ScummVM. I can only suggest try going to the options dialog in the launcher and try switching to/from OpenGL for the graphics mode.. see if that makes any difference. Also maybe try running the games in a window vs full screen as well.
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[02:38] <grogbot> <warwon> yeah might try that, lol keep dying of thirst anyways not my night lol
[02:39] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> If you're lucky you can work around whatever the problem the driver has
[02:40] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> I hear ya.. probably lots of people hung over today 🙂
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[02:43] <grogbot> <warwon> ah no it's a old game problem, just one those things that doesn't make sense haha
[02:43] <grogbot> <warwon> the thirst issue*
[02:44] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> Ah, right. My mistake 🙂
[02:44] <grogbot> <warwon> gotta how love how crpytic old games are, made for kids, keeps dying from thirst when holding a full water flask :{
[02:45] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> Agreed. I'm currently working on the Ultima series, and they were particularly egregious about player hunger, particularly the early ones. The moment the food counter reaches zero, you're dead.
[02:46] <grogbot> <warwon> I often just edit those older one's as I get sick of the whole food thing
[02:46] <grogbot> <warwon> rest of the game I can handle, but older Ultimas have some crazy ass grind stuff
[02:47] <grogbot> <warwon> Wizardry, is another one that nearly made me ram a keyboard through a wall last year
[02:47] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> Agreed. In my case, adding cheat modes to turn off food checks, or make me invunerable 🙂
[02:50] <grogbot> <warwon> hunger, and repairs are always my pet peeves. I understand it's "RPG" to have that
[02:50] <grogbot> <warwon> but really, fighting a 10 level dungeon, stuck down there cause my sword broke after 9 hours, isn't fun 😛
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[09:39] <Lightkey> There was a Magnetic Scrolls game released on GOG.com last month, maybe their IF will follow? ;-)
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[10:12] <grogbot> <sluicebox> i love that this has come up. the black cauldron is insane. their goal was to simplify the adventure game interface for kids by replacing the free form typing commands with function keys for LOOK/DO/USE-ITEM. brilliant! so then... they added global thirst/hunger timers that don't appear in any of the "adult" games?? i love the black cauldron, and was weaned on it, but it's one of those exhibits that suggest sierra didn't know anything
[10:12] <grogbot> about playing the games they were cranking out
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[11:12] <grogbot> <waltervn> that wasn't the first time they tried a simpler interface though. They remade the typing interface "Dark Crystal" as "Gelfling Adventure" with a multiple choice interface
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[12:07] <LePhilousophe> I think that might interest people here: http://fabiensanglard.net/another_world_polygons/index.html
[12:08] <grogbot> <madmoose> LePhilousophe: It's good as usual from Fabien 🙂
[12:10] <LePhilousophe> didn't know him I just got the link from somewhere else
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[12:35] <grogbot> <antoniou79> Nice find. I love Another world.
[12:36] <grogbot> <madmoose> @antoniou79 He's done more articles about Another World. We almost had the engine in ScummVM.
[12:39] <grogbot> <antoniou79> I did not about that.
[12:41] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 6 new commits to branch-2-1: https://git.io/JexuS
[12:41] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 6d13a9f BenCastricum: SCUMM: Bump HE version of Pajama2 GB to 99, Fixes bug #10933
[12:41] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 b1a44fa AfBu: TOLTECS: Added Czech language support
[12:41] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 386e759 ccawley2011: GRAPHICS: Fix loading NE cursors
[12:45] <grogbot> <madmoose> This one has more technical detail: http://fabiensanglard.net/anotherWorld_code_review/index.php
[13:04] <grogbot> <antoniou79> Cool, why almost had an engine, though? What became of it? Was there a related pull request?
[13:10] <grogbot> <madmoose> @antoniou79 There was a engine with a pull request, some devs didn't want it included, some did. There was much angry discussion. Then Eric Chahi said he was releasing an anniversary edition and to please not include it.
[13:11] <grogbot> <antoniou79> ah yeah, the anniversary edition(s) happened.
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[13:23] <grogbot> <Strangerke> Autocorrect at its best :(
[13:25] <Deledrius> sluicebox - yeah that hunger and thirst system was killer, because it basically required you to find the food wallet, and even then it made the stakes really high when you'd journey into the castle.
[13:25] <Deledrius> As a kid, it was just part of the game.
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[13:46] <Scummette> [scummvm] athrxx pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JexzQ
[13:46] <Scummette> scummvm/master 923b8ea athrxx: SCUMM: (iMUSE/Amiga) - improve sound driver destructor
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[13:47] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 c63e483 athrxx: KYRA: (EOB/Amiga) - minor audio driver improvements
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[13:47] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 5f4e5c4 athrxx: SCUMM: (iMUSE/Amiga) - improve sound driver destructor
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[13:52] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 b79c277 sev-: NEWS: Added 2.1.1 improvements so far
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[14:03] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 4a9c883 sev-: NEWS: Mention Toltecs CZ support
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[14:22] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 daf85f6 raziel-: AMIGAOS4: Fix NULL access
[14:22] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 5733c04 raziel-: AMIGAOS4: Properly copy the doc drawer
[14:22] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 faf4c31 raziel-: JANITORIAL: Wording
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[14:29] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-1: https://git.io/JexgF
[14:29] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 4ba865c sev-: NEWS: Described Amiga port changes
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[14:49] <grogbot> <Zadroter> Wizardry, is another one that nearly made me ram a keyboard through a wall last year Welcome to 80s crpgs and it's encounter based combat 😄 This is reason might and magic get rid of it in 1991
[15:23] <grogbot> <warwon> Yeah I have a hard time in that whole debate since 90s which is better Wizardry or M&M
[15:24] <grogbot> <warwon> I feel M&M grew up, while Wizardry just found another bat in the back shed to beat you with
[15:51] <Scummette> [scummvm] vyzigold pushed 1 new commits to branch-2-1: https://git.io/JexVu
[15:51] <Scummette> scummvm/branch-2-1 b7bcf29 vyzigold: TTS: Fix language setting.
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[17:23] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/Jexro
[17:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master 39728ee sev-: DIRECTOR: Create dummy Shared Cast when there is none present
[17:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master c554e16 sev-: DIRECTOR: Fix crash on exit
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[17:26] <grogbot> <Zadroter> I'd say they go different routes. And while I'm MM fan, overall I liked a lot of directions in wizerdry better
[17:27] <grogbot> <Zadroter> MM1-2 had awesome tactical combat, better than classic Wiz or bard's tale and in 3 and WoX it was too much dumbed down, to make it in-world. Wiz6-7 have much more deep mechanics overall and I feel sad that MM3-5 lost them.
[17:27] <grogbot> <Zadroter> However this is off topic already, yeah.
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[17:36] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://git.io/JexrF
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[17:40] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7b3d509 sev-: PRINCE: I18N: Update translation (English)
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[18:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #1939: OPENGL: Ensure surfaces created by saveScreenshot are the right way up (master...opengl-screenshot) https://git.io/JeogO
[18:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JexKg
[18:52] <Scummette> scummvm/master ba035ac ccawley2011: GRAPHICS: Add a function to vertically flip surfaces
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[19:15] <grogbot> <madmoose> @Zadroter What topic? 😛
[21:26] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> sluicebox: Coincidentally, back years ago before I started spending my spare time on ScummVM, I actually ported Black Cauldron to AGS as a proper point-and-click adventure, and released both the compiled game and source I wrote. You can pretty easily find it by searching for Black Cauldron AGS
[21:27] <grogbot> <sluicebox> oh, that's cool! i was impressed by how many little things in that game i never found as a kid; like i never knew there was that hole behind the wine cask that you could fall down
[21:28] <grogbot> <sluicebox> maybe less surprisingly, i never found the hole in the wall with leisure suit larry stuff on the other side or whatever that message was
[21:28] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> Though I did do it years ago.. I can't remember much about how I extracted original assets, so it's also possible I missed something
[21:29] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> It was a different time.. I was young, idealistic, and full of hope of creating the next big adventure game. 🙂
[21:34] <grogbot> <sluicebox> there's still time!
[21:35] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> Nah. I've got too much of a backlog of engines to support in ScummVM 🙂
[21:35] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> And I get more pleasure from working digital archeology than trying to come up with my own stories anyway.
[21:41] <Scummette> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 3 new commits to branch-2-1: https://git.io/JexXE
[21:47] <grogbot> <Henke37> lets see if 2020 is the year pink is officially supported
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[23:28] <Deledrius__> I think I played that, Dreammaster!
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[23:29] <grogbot> <DreamMaster> Cool. Hopefully you had fun. In the absense of a completely original game, it made me happy that others enjoyed it.
[23:30] <Scummette> [scummvm] sluicebox pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/JexD6
[23:30] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0339253 sluicebox: SCI32: Fix GK2 Neuschwanstein castle hint
[23:30] <Scummette> scummvm/master c3c23c2 sluicebox: SCI32: Add GK2 workaround for flag debug dialog
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