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[01:48] [scummvm] dwatteau pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/I2pabc [01:48] scummvm/master f948291 dwatteau: DGDS: Silence -Wpedantic warning about extra ';' [01:48] scummvm/master 886c8eb dwatteau: QDENGINE: Silence -Wpedantic warning about extra ';' [01:58] [scummvm] yuv422 pushed 6 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Xr9MiD [01:58] scummvm/master 2525458 : DARKSEED: Add more missing sfx [01:58] scummvm/master b156f83 : DARKSEED: Add won game logic [01:58] scummvm/master cc94491 : DARKSEED: Stop sfx when shower sequence is done. [02:08] [discord] Anyone got a few minutes to maybe help me get started with WSL/Docker and compiling an image? [02:08] [discord] I got them all connected, just not finding the right command to get started [02:10] [discord] *I'm new to linux [02:11] [discord] I don't know much about the Docker on Windows part. [02:11] [discord] but, if docker is set up, from WSL you should be able to run something like this: [02:11] [discord] ``` [02:11] [discord] cd your/scummvm/repo [02:11] [discord] ./devtools/docker.sh toolchains/ps3 [02:11] [discord] ./configure --host=ps3 [02:11] [discord] make -j$(nproc) ps3pkg [02:11] [discord] ``` [02:11] [discord] which Docker image are you trying to compile? [02:11] [discord] So I'm trying to set it up to configure the dreamcast build. Just replace ps3 with dc? [02:11] [discord] Overall, I'm working on porting Grim Fandango to Dreamcast [02:12] [discord] here I took the PS3 example https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=Compiling_ScummVM/Docker, first column for the argument to give to the `./devtools/docker.sh` script, third column for the `./configure` arguments, fourth column for the `make` arguments [02:13] [discord] ok, so first step is: is your WSL set up to have a Linux terminal in your scummvm repo? [02:13] [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/fAFBq0 [02:13] scummvm/master 6162714 marcosoutsider: I18N: Update translation (Portuguese (Brazil)) [02:13] [discord] Ok yeah I've been using that guide too. I think I just missed the cd you/scummvm/repo part [02:13] [discord] with Windows Terminal set up to a Linux installation or something [02:13] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307166653284483143/image.png?ex=67395150&is=6737ffd0&hm=753cbb25a543a68ba3e2860a75e34572bd434e8654cd3bf6b4474009c1cef4e8& [02:14] [discord] I connected it and tested it with the simple "hello world" to make sure they're connected, so that part seems right [02:14] [discord] oh you're very new to the Linux terminal, right? [02:15] [discord] Yeah. I'm sure I'll figure it out once I get a few lines coded in, but getting that initial bit going hit a wall for me [02:15] [discord] I was also given this https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/blob/master/configure [02:16] [discord] I see, no problem [02:16] [discord] I don't know much about the way WSL and Docker Desktop are supposed to interact on Windows, though. I hope I won't guide you in something that doesn't really work there [02:17] [discord] From my understanding I just use WSL/ubuntu with docker open and everything I code in WSL shows up in Docker [02:17] [discord] anyway, the first step are the requirements: installing Git to clone the scummvm repo, and then having Docker to run the build environment [02:17] [discord] your `apt-get` command was good, for this. But installing packages on Linux requires administrator rights (a.k.a. "root") [02:17] [discord] Ah, okay I saw the git stuff. Lemme run back to that [02:18] [discord] that's why your apt-get call told you `are you root?` [02:18] [discord] when you need to be root (= admin) under Linux, you prefix your command with `sudo`, most of the time [02:18] [discord] so, exec your `apt-get` command again, but add a `sudo` at the front of it. [02:18] [discord] then you'll get Git and (hopefully) Docker [02:18] [discord] Ok so this part [02:18] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307167975685750854/image.png?ex=6739528b&is=6738010b&hm=c167f223a382e2b024ebb1cf0a4fd9538d05a80dd519bbf7a015d7281454d9b1& [02:20] [discord] yes, the first line should probably have a `sudo` (where you're used to this, you know when to add a `sudo` when it's not mentionned) but indeed it could be more explicit [02:20] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307168452468805633/image.png?ex=673952fd&is=6738017d&hm=3e0ff7f32b8492be194465e8f22d32fa61918c393b7c470d3bd3943cdc20d8c2& [02:21] [discord] I see in your screenshot above that you were following the steps in some "random" order. You need to follow them in the order they're given [02:21] [discord] i.e. start with the sudo apt-get, then the 'git clone', and so on [02:21] [discord] and continue only if the previous command succeeded [02:23] [discord] Still getting the 'docker.io' has no installation candidate [02:24] [discord] yeah, that's what I feared when I said "I don't know much about the way WSL and Docker Desktop are supposed to interact on Windows, though" [02:24] [discord] the guide you read is mostly made for Linux/macOS hosts, I think [02:25] [discord] ok. Let me do some searching and see if I can find some guides. I really appreciate you helping [02:26] [discord] did you install Docker Desktop for windows? [02:26] [discord] I think it should set up the integration with your WSL Linux host for you, automatically [02:26] [discord] You may not have to install docker.io from the Linux shell [02:26] [discord] I installed docker first. Then did the wsl stuff through cmd [02:26] [discord] Yeah, iirc it's what dwa just said [02:27] [discord] Then went into docker and made sure the settings were connected [02:27] [discord] oh yeah, just try typing "docker version" then [02:27] [discord] to see if it's installed [02:27] [discord] Can I share my screen somehow? [02:28] [discord] But you do need to have Docker Desktop running first (and configured to integrate with WSL2), *before* launching your Linux environment. [02:28] [discord] Ok so x out of cmd and load it back up? [02:30] [discord] yes try that. It's been a while since I've used it because it was too slow for building stuff, but I remember this being a restriction that I often forgot [02:31] [discord] (too slow for building stuff == much slower that just running a native Linux installation from boot. But it wasn't extremely slow. It could do for quick builds (eg. not all ScummVM engines) when I didn't want to reboot the PC just to build with Docker) [02:32] [discord] (too slow for building stuff == much slower than just running a native Linux installation from boot. But it wasn't extremely slow. It could do for quick builds (eg. not all ScummVM engines) when I didn't want to reboot the PC just to build with Docker) (edited) [02:32] [discord] AH! [02:32] [discord] PROGRESS! [02:32] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307171459466137671/image.png?ex=673955ca&is=6738044a&hm=530d6bf335fa476a897f9bb9ca7214cd5aacf72df5c07a340174486a8181d823& [02:32] [discord] Had to run sudo apt-get update first [02:33] [discord] oh man so many lines of code 🤤 [02:34] [discord] LFG [02:34] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307171795299729488/image.png?ex=6739561a&is=6738049a&hm=2a17b4f732a779890fdacbc03015e0f909d744b254f27b1da344db58722e2241& [02:35] [discord] you can refresh the wiki link, I've updated some stuff with your feedback [02:35] [discord] I feel special [02:36] [discord] Seriously thank you all. Did not know what to expect jumping in here and just being like "yeah i'mma port Grim Fandango to Dreamcast" but yall have all been so pleasant and helpful. [02:37] [discord] While I'm waiting on all this to download, any of yall ever see the Manny Calavera skate deck that Tim Schaffer has in his office? [02:39] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307173240019619911/IMG_6066.jpg?ex=67395772&is=673805f2&hm=acd9eb9c06eaaf97822470b0e31576bc58fa6ccf5378a829191e6975dbeee97b& [02:40] [discord] haha no I didn't know about that one [02:41] [discord] You see it from time to time in the double fine videos. Showed up again in one of the last doc videos they did recently. But yeah I was able to gift that too him and talk to him for a while. Made my childhood heart so full [02:42] [discord] Ok looks like I got it all installed. Just continue down with the guide from there? [02:43] [discord] oh that skate is yours? [02:45] [discord] Yeah I used to do skate deck graphics based on video games and GF is probably my favorite game of all time so it made sense to make one. I did one of the golden ticket too. [02:46] [discord] Ok I got cd scummvm working, now fighting with the part. [02:46] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307174945847250985/image.png?ex=67395909&is=67380789&hm=8e13e43f0480ba51c26dd290593b2d1f9f0cd1b4e795bac912b0ba29c70ff7d6& [02:46] [discord] it's very nice. and wonderful that you got it to him! [02:47] [discord] It was so surreal. Absolutely one of the biggest highlights in my life. [02:47] [discord] And then seeing that he hung it on his wall just... yeah amazing. [02:48] [discord] Makes me smile everytime I see it [02:50] [discord] So is it one of these that I use for ? [02:50] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307175902488035400/image.png?ex=673959ed&is=6738086d&hm=ce29fbf8570acb75da216a59b06d4b9e326aa42aa5b7bec267bcae14bcb3f17e& [02:50] [discord] yes, `sudo ./devtools/docker.sh toolchains/dreamcast` should be OK [02:51] [discord] I don't know why it fails on your side. It looks like your DNS server is giving you IPv6 hosts, but then your network has no IPv6 support [02:52] [discord] It seems I gotta run the "update" lines of these codes first before they work. [02:52] [discord] It seems like the wiki is written as if you have everything already configured up front maybe? [02:53] [discord] I'm documenting all my steps btw [02:53] [discord] I've fixed some of that stuff, in the last few minutes. You have a network issue in your WSL, I don't really know why [02:56] [discord] Ok so after updating it, it just puts you in the root. Then for the "scummvm_configure" part it seems to only take one -- command at a time. [02:59] [discord] Ccawley told me I'd have to enable tinygl [02:59] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307178241357778944/image.png?ex=67395c1a&is=67380a9a&hm=282e1beb19dd1778a156c26af8c9558bb1cc3918007dce1325930ddd9d3e692f& [02:59] [discord] At what point would I make this happen? [03:01] [discord] i'd need to see your current terminal output [03:01] [discord] i'd need to see your current terminal output first (edited) [03:01] [discord] Whatcha need from me? [03:01] [discord] where you are in your WSL window [03:02] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307178859246129242/image.png?ex=67395cae&is=67380b2e&hm=ad9ca8430894946a2f5e9df959b316ee8e8b1855ecc1a3c49aaaa3b453d6640c& [03:02] [discord] Although I think it may have created it already [03:03] [discord] oh good [03:04] [discord] For context our idea for this was to create a barebones version just to run grim [03:04] [discord] well, looking at [this commit](https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/commit/a43b6cb67a43a3eac54926b2097c0eaf57dca493) in the project history, it looks like Marcus (= the Dreamcast port maintainer) chose to disable TinyGL, in order to save memory (the Dreamcast is _very_ memory limited) [03:04] [discord] TinyGL is used as a software renderer for 3D, basically [03:04] [discord] so if you want to enable it back, you need to save memory elsewhere [03:04] [discord] yes, good. So the point here is to focus on a Dreamcast build only targeting the Grim engine [03:05] [discord] to do so, you can add the following arguments at the end of your `configure` stage: [03:05] [discord] `--disable-all-engines --enable-engine=grim` [03:06] [discord] so that _only_ the engine for Grim Fandango is included in your own ScummVM build for Dreamcast [03:06] [discord] so it'll be scummvm_configure --disable-all-engines --enable-engine=grim [03:06] [discord] I think so [03:06] [discord] I don't need to do the tinygl part yet? [03:07] [discord] yes, you do [03:07] [discord] I'm trying to find you a quick way of enabling it back [03:09] [discord] run this (only once; it will do a permanent change to the 'configure' script) before you run scummvm_configure again: [03:09] [discord] ``` [03:09] [discord] sed -i '/_backend="dc"/,/_tinygl=no/ { /_tinygl=no/d }' [03:09] [discord] ``` [03:09] [discord] run this (only once; it will do a permanent change to the 'configure' script) before you run scummvm_configure again: [03:09] [discord] ``` [03:09] [discord] sed -i '/_backend="dc"/,/_tinygl=no/ { /_tinygl=no/d }' configure [03:09] [discord] ``` (edited) [03:09] [discord] don't think much about this command, it's just a quick way of dropping the configure line that disabled TinyGL in dreamcast builds [03:10] [discord] (the 'sed' command is silent; it will modify the file without outputing anything) [03:10] [discord] Did I do that right? [03:10] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307181018255724604/image.png?ex=67395eb1&is=67380d31&hm=288e2025b29c41f2872c7a6d5d20c7c03c9536395354b3847a9b03e3af1cd832& [03:10] [discord] good [03:11] [discord] now try running that `scummvm_configure --disable-all-engines --enable-engine=grim` command again [03:11] [discord] and show much as much output as possible (i.e. 'configure' outputs a lot of stuff; only showing the last few lines is not going to be enough) [03:11] [discord] and show as much output as possible (i.e. 'configure' outputs a lot of stuff; only showing the last few lines is not going to be enough) (edited) [03:12] [discord] I sent the full script in a dm [03:12] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307181588710162483/message.txt?ex=67395f39&is=67380db9&hm=861b47f3e3ae07669dfeedf2617c5162403404471f025edc526f5c42b110f2db& [03:13] [discord] Oh nvm, I was worried it would show up as a 200 line message here [03:13] [discord] nice! here's the good part you wanted: [03:13] [discord] ``` [03:13] [discord] ... [03:13] [discord] Backend... dc, 16bit color, high resolution, TinyGL, savegame timestamp, MT-32 emulator, Lua, Nuked OPL emulator, virtual keyboard [03:13] [discord] Engines (plugins): [03:13] [discord] Grim [Grim Fandango] [03:13] [discord] ... [03:13] [discord] ``` [03:14] [discord] i.e. you have TinyGL (the 3D software renderer) and _only_ the Grim engine [03:14] [discord] lmao I feel so giddy right now [03:14] [discord] you're ready to build things, now [03:14] [discord] https://tenor.com/view/happy-gif-27563888 [03:15] [discord] So we roll with the Scummvm_build part now? [03:15] [discord] yes [03:15] [discord] you can just run [03:15] [discord] ``` [03:15] [discord] scummvm_build [03:15] [discord] scummvm_package [03:15] [discord] ``` [03:16] [discord] My body is ready [03:17] [discord] the first line builds scummv, the second one will produce the final `dcdist` package (or directory; can't remember) for Dreamcast [03:17] [discord] the first line builds scummvm, the second one will produce the final `dcdist` package (or directory; can't remember) for Dreamcast (edited) [03:17] [discord] i stg if I can even just get the game to boot I'm gonna cry [03:19] [discord] It seems to have stopped here without the prompt for the next thing. Do I just do the package command? [03:19] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1307183128430907442/image.png?ex=673960a8&is=67380f28&hm=f7b73ce3b784a8ac915f0ecc0db8714b0647c8e7633d5e9e36e2f6f42071de6b& [03:19] [discord] it looks like, many moons ago, there was an effort to try running Grim Fandango there: [03:19] [discord] https://forums.scummvm.org/viewtopic.php?t=6431 [03:19] [discord] and I think this 'mc' user is Marcus, the Dreamcast port maintainer [03:20] [discord] So my thoughts on that: There's enough tools to dissect GF by now. If I can't get it to run stable on DC, I was going to try to downsize all the assets and see if that works. Does that make sense? [03:21] [discord] I'm not sure you're going to see much more than a 2-3 FPS game or something. If the game runs at all, since the Dreamcast has such a limited memory amount [03:21] [discord] and, as far as I know, the Dreamcast port of ScummVM was mostly written for 2D games, i.e. it would probably require very special code to deal with the Dreamcast hardware, and I think it has none at all [03:22] [discord] you know Full Throttle, right? [03:22] [discord] If I can at least get it to boot, then I have something to work with and we can make a build available for anyone ready to jump in and help [03:22] [discord] Oh yeah love FT [03:22] [discord] well, for several years, even Full Throttle was unplayable on Dreamcast [03:22] [discord] ::sigh:: [03:22] [discord] and you know that Grim Fandango is more complex [03:22] [discord] Of course [03:22] [discord] we may have just fixed Full Throttle recently, though& [03:23] [discord] Yeah that post was back in 2008 and it seems like a lot has updated since then. [03:23] [discord] if you want to test that, by the way, it's kinda funny that you show up with interest in Dreamcast and Tim's games, because this ticket is just a few hours old: [03:23] [discord] https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/15494 [03:24] [discord] I have a team of people that helped me port a few games before, so if I can present them with SOMETHING, we can hopefully work on it [03:24] [discord] oh, people with Dreamcast knowledge? [03:24] [discord] Oh crap, that was the guy who was helping me! [03:25] [discord] Not particularly, but we've made magic happen before and want to learn. We were going to look into porting "Car Quest" to Dreamcast next (a game I helped port from Switch to Steam) [03:26] [discord] We started off as speedrunners and one of the crew showed interest in programming and the dev let us tackle that project [03:26] [discord] ah, cool thing yeah! [03:29] [discord] Yeah check out Car Quest if you want a cool driving best adventure/exploration game. [03:30] [discord] I also did the post it note art for Skatebird [03:30] [discord] well, I have to go now, it's 4:30 AM here, and I need to wake up not too late [03:30] [discord] i'm not sure I can be of much more help for the Dreamcast part itself. But it's very nice to see interest in this port. AFAICS, it hasn't received much evolution, for several years (e.g. Full Throttle being K.O. for some years, the game detection code having some issues if my memory serves me well&) [03:30] [discord] so it's really nice to see something like this [03:30] [discord] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!! [03:30] [discord] they look like funny games indeed [03:30] [discord] If I can manage to make this miracle happen I will absolutely make sure to find a way to credit yall [03:31] [discord] no problem -- you're quite lucky that I had some free time this evening, because I've been lacking free time for ScummVM for more than a year or something 😄 you show up just at the right time haha [03:31] [discord] That just means this was meant to happen. This is our destiny! [03:31] [discord] it's just a very small thing that I did here. But I'm always happy to help [03:32] [discord] Cannot thank you enough [03:32] [discord] you're very welcome. Have fun! [03:33] [discord] WAIT REAL QUICK WHERE IS THIS FILE GOING TO OUTPUT!? [04:00] [scummvm] yuv422 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/8LhAe0 [04:00]