ScummVM IRC Log - 19 Oct 2025

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[02:51] <grogbot> [discord] <jeffcharizardflame> No, because KQ5 NES doesn't run on SCI
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[10:18] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> do you have the ability to highlight all the areas?
[10:19] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> (like the red rectangle but for all areas)
[10:19] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> Like the clickable hot spots?
[10:20] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> yes
[10:20] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> areas == clickable hotspots
[10:21] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1429414020250730598/image.png?ex=68f60d0b&is=68f4bb8b&hm=cee20fd752e21ff97f92e8045cce237f5f1d0cb13a39a07e7f29187796172a65&
[10:21] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> yeah works on any room from s&m and dott (i havent named any s&m verbs yet, can't automate it like I can in dott because ofc dott has verb strings)
[10:21] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> no, I mean displaying all hotspots at once
[10:22] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> ohh
[10:22] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> so that you don't have to guess where to click
[10:22] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> yeah it could have that feature
[10:22] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i just use the thing on the left, that table to select things
[10:22] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> ah yes indeed that works too
[10:22] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> layout is a big wip
[10:22] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i wanna get every feature existing in some form and refactor the UI later when its' all in place
[10:23] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> anyway, don't implement it for me: I don't dissect Scumm games
[10:23] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> noted
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[11:59] <grogbot> [discord] <rzil> awesome!
[12:00] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> btw i noted a lil bug in your nutcracker script decomp
[12:00] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> "issue in nutcracker decompiler! if an object has multiple verbs that point to the same entry point, only the most recently found one appears in the script output."
[12:01] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1429439207427801184/image.png?ex=68f62480&is=68f4d300&hm=177695bfa2fa81737be3e5dd9c7fd35d0610a09707602db4d6c26a75ed63b009&
[12:01] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> here's how i'm displaying it
[12:01] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> (enums in place of raw numbers)
[12:01] <grogbot> [discord] <rzil> thanjs, I'll check this, do you remember specific script it happens in?
[12:02] <grogbot> [discord] <rzil> thanks, I'll check this, do you remember specific script it happens in? (edited)
[12:02] <grogbot> [discord] <rzil> thanks, I'll check this, do you remember specific script it happens in?
[12:02] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> any script with multiple entry points that lead to the same place
[12:02] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1429439550245048380/image.png?ex=68f624d2&is=68f4d352&hm=446cdc90bfda7a8ac52e951099a77d3143b0c862cb54c67dfa36e7e4ad2d33c5&
[12:02] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> george's bed
[12:30] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1429446721544519785/image.png?ex=68f62b80&is=68f4da00&hm=433c427a0323e95dd70045ce1cbe576037ebb6244af9ed194bd44ac629730341&
[12:31] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> got walkbox visualisation looking a bit more helpful, "invisible" boxes are rendered with no fill and in grey
[12:31] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i didn't realise invisible meant invisible to the pathfinding system :p
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[12:34] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> ohh and i guess that flag id on the two pairs of stairs is like, half walk speed type thing
[13:54] <Scummette> [scummvm] lotharsm pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/RkFvSW
[13:54] <Scummette> scummvm/master ace98aa lotharsm: DIRECTOR: Fix Director version for melements-win-fr
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[14:35] <grogbot> [discord] <moonbritches> hey is there any documentation on the support for the 3DO version of Putt Putt Goes to the Moon? Im noticing a lot of bugs that are making it difficult to play, i.e. music stopping for seemingly no reason, and no way to control the bear storming minigame. I think it's a real shame because it's the only version of the game to have CD audio instead of midi
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[14:49] <Scummette> [scummvm] Helco pushed 4 new commits to master: https://is.gd/rIjwz3
[14:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master baf314f Helco: ALCACHOFA: Add engine version to detection entries
[14:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master e99af42 Helco: ALCACHOFA: Add script translation tables for V3.0
[14:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master a94fdf7 Helco: ALCACHOFA: Reencode animation paths to UTF8
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[14:56] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> I don't think so
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[14:56] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> compatibility table doesn't say anything about NES while the Wiki mentions there is a version
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[14:57] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> and the detection tables don't mention NES either
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[14:57] <grogbot> [discord] <jcgyo> I know the NES Maniac Mansion works with some slight modification
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[14:58] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> that's not the same engine, and NES is mentioned as supported on the compatibility table of MM
[14:58] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> https://www.scummvm.org/compatibility/DEV/scumm:maniac/
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[15:01] <grogbot> [discord] <jcgyo> thank you for looking!
[15:02] <Scummette> [scummvm] Helco pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/s2F2iS
[15:02] <Scummette> scummvm/master 39299ed Helco: ALCACHOFA: Fix undefined reference to kMapFiles
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[15:13] <Scummette> [scummvm] Helco pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/8GYNEl
[15:13] <Scummette> scummvm/master 481e1e5 Helco: ALCACHOFA: Trade syntax warning against syntax error
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[15:47] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> Please file them in the bug tracker, each issue with its own ticket
[15:47] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> Please be sure to actually test the game in a 3DO emulator to check if it's actually supposed to do any of that things you described
[15:55] <grogbot> [discord] <moonbritches> I have a mac and the only 3DO emulator that works on here is all in Russian 😭
[16:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] sdelamarre pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/e9oxZM
[16:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master 74998d4 sdelamarre: GOB: Fix an edge case in o7_playVmdOrMusic when lastFrame == -3
[17:37] <Scummette> [scummvm] npjg pushed 13 new commits to master: https://is.gd/AZ7KzF
[17:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master aaf21a9 npjg: MEDIASTATION: Rename assets to actors
[17:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master a3d915f npjg: MEDIASTATION: Rename asset to actor types
[17:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3a22eb5 npjg: MEDIASTATION: Migrate warnings/errors to use __func__
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[19:10] <grogbot> [discord] <nioquid> Phoenix?
[19:10] <grogbot> [discord] <nioquid> It has a mostly complete English patch
[19:41] <grogbot> [discord] <jeffcharizardflame> Also, the NES KQ5 doesn't use SCI, but a custom engine made by Novotrade which mimics the SCI appearance
[19:49] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> No
[19:50] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> What kind of modification? I am unaware of any, it just reads the PRG file
[19:50] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> alternatively, you may extract it with scummvm-tools into LFL files
[20:06] <grogbot> [discord] <jcgyo> I thought it needed the header removed at the very least
[20:07] <grogbot> [discord] <jcgyo> this: https://forums.scummvm.org/viewtopic.php?t=1734&sid=480fe8b2012b78c940c7fcaf5c093c46
[20:09] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> Ah, when you do a pirated copy downloaded from the internets, sure.
[20:09] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> but you're on you own then, we cannot provide any support for the sake of the project team safety
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[21:41] <Scummette> [scummvm] sdelamarre pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/TTAyGk
[21:41] <Scummette> scummvm/master 667c786 sdelamarre: GOB: Fix a warning message in o1_createSprite
[21:41] <Scummette> scummvm/master 83957af sdelamarre: GOB: Ignore attempts to load a sprite beyond dest surface's height
[21:57] <grogbot> [discord] <jcgyo> ahh, not trying to do any of that, was just curious about the KQ5 question and had heard about this before!
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