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[03:52] <grogbot_> [discord] <techjesse> Just finished making the intro 🙂
[03:52] <grogbot_> [discord] <techjesse> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1473889897445199965/GILBERT.mp4?ex=6997da6f&is=699688ef&hm=442b01009841fd2ddf8a3a739de3e4fbc9fe355de77b551913bdeb498bd19bf5&
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[04:20] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #7247: SCUMM: MM Apple II - Use the original Apple II cursor like we do for the other platforms. (master...scumm-mmapple-cursor) https://is.gd/8CpuhY
[04:20] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/F1yxbM
[04:20] <Scummette> scummvm/master a0cb2d7 robertmegone: SCUMM: MM AppleII - Use the original Apple cursor like we do for the other platforms.
[04:39] <grogbot_> [discord] <robertmegone> I managed to depack and convert some TeenAgent Amiga backgrounds. I'm hopeful that if I get a set of resource readers hooked up then it shouldn't be a huge task to add support for the Amiga versions, since all of the game logic is already implemented in callbacks.cpp. I imagine some re-mapping would be required but it's a start.
[04:39] <grogbot_> [discord] <robertmegone> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1473901698140344461/1.png?ex=6997e56c&is=699693ec&hm=af8c287b0c4eb821db3993fd8aa8597584f0ae265bcbc3bd27087bbdd54e36ee&
[04:39] <grogbot_> [discord] <robertmegone> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1473901698786263165/2.png?ex=6997e56c&is=699693ec&hm=588bbe65847a21e1bdd6766299104d89484ed4499915bfde831d5fd926c733c6&
[04:39] <grogbot_> [discord] <robertmegone> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1473901699210023012/3.png?ex=6997e56c&is=699693ec&hm=9e52e5ac4f29cb2a83a1fd3d0f8aa43e910fcd9eefe3404dfcfaee18a0da7c96&
[04:39] <grogbot_> [discord] <robertmegone> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1473901699797356711/4.png?ex=6997e56d&is=699693ed&hm=70d64917f87b3112e43a782c3a9cb7ea91684588d66e63c5637f153b459416e7&
[04:39] <grogbot_> [discord] <robertmegone> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1473901700443148328/5.png?ex=6997e56d&is=699693ed&hm=c48b2e7dc7a7e575dd4d5fd62f6e8f1569de046f83beeefe82355b4d64730798&
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[08:37] <Scummette> [scummvm] yeager opened pull request #7248: Add Daniel Nylander to AUTHORS list (master...patch-1) https://is.gd/32wFS6
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[10:07] <Scummette> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/o9uXWS
[10:07] <Scummette> scummvm/master acf09ac dreammaster: BAGEL: METAGAME: Hopeful fix for ocassional store dialog crashes
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[11:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/UDE5JF
[11:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2450491 sev-: CREDITS: Adding Daniel Nylander to Swedish translators
[11:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master 057807a sev-: CREDITS: Regenerate
[11:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #7248: Add Daniel Nylander to AUTHORS list (master...patch-1) https://is.gd/32wFS6
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[12:04] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Speaking of TeenAgent, my understanding is the Polish CD talkie version has been supported for a while, and the engine correctly detects it, but attempting to launch throws a `could not locate correct language block` error.
[12:04] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Any clues? I wanted to see if speech + English subs could be combined.
[13:18] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/TZEvs8
[13:18] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0bc7980 sev-: AGS: Added two more gob6 versions, early version and v7
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[13:53] <grogbot_> [discord] <criezy> It has been supported for a while, bit the voice data was not used, and the text was in English (hardcoded in the teenagent.dat). Proper support for the Polish and Czech versions (using the Polish/Czech text, and with voice for the Polish version) was implemented last summer.
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[14:11] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> I just re-downloaded the Polish GOG version and no luck, it won't launch. A regression perhaps?
[14:11] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Strangely, GOG is shipping DOSBox Staging for this game now.
[14:29] <grogbot_> [discord] <criezy> I think I know what is wrong. The create_teenagent tool is storing the Common::Language value in the teenagent.dat file, and this is later compared with the game language in the engine to find the language block. But commit 13b659b added canadian french to the language enum in December, thus changing the value for all the languages that come after it. And the teenagent.dat was not recreated, and thus still has the old values from befor
[14:30] <grogbot_> [discord] <criezy> We should maybe use custom values different from the Common::Language enum to identify the languages in teenagent.dat so that it doesn't break every time we change that enum.
[14:31] <grogbot_> [discord] <Digitall> I have been concerned that various "cleanup" to those datafile creation devtools have broken things and we wouldn't realise. We really should check those periodically and monitor for any changes in output
[14:32] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Ah, that makes much sense. Do you want me to create a ticket to follow up?
[14:34] <grogbot_> [discord] <criezy> Yes please. Otherwise we may forget about the issue and not fix it (I am at work currently so cannot make the needed change now).
[14:34] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> No prob
[14:45] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Done and added your potential solution to keep track: https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/16568#ticket
[15:09] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Side note: such weird and unexpected differences between the Amiga and DOS backgrounds. It's not mere palette related stuff, but design choices too. Nothing *major*, but quite intriguing differences. Wonder what's the story there.
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[19:22] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/6ewM0Q
[19:22] <Scummette> scummvm/master 96614c2 Purple T: I18N: Update translation (French)
[20:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] sdelamarre pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/mA36Yu
[20:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master d099693 sdelamarre: GOB: Remove unused "dataVar" parameter in some save sprite handlers
[20:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master 322431d sdelamarre: GOB: Add printing support for Adibou2/Adi4
[20:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/59JKRv
[20:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3caece7 weblate: I18N: Update translations templates
[20:04] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/emTUpb
[20:04] <Scummette> scummvm/master 25de71d weblate: I18N: Update translation files
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[21:13] <grogbot_> [discord] <robertmegone> Oh really? I hadn't noticed any. Do you have an example?
[21:44] <grogbot_> [discord] <techjesse> OK my full interview with Ron Gilbert is now up. Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_Hv7KHe2I
[21:50] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> This might be the best example of what I mean. See, the windows to the left are more detailed in the Amiga version, and there's an additional design in the bank facade. It doesn't make sense why this would be added or removed -- at least I can't think of a good reason. Note the piping too, it's quite different.
[21:50] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> The DOS version seems to have better dithering across the scenes. Perhaps that's what dictated such changes? Sacrifice sharp details in exchange for that nicer texture?
[21:50] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1474161268616069234/16487746-teen-agent-amiga-gold-transport.png?ex=6998d72b&is=699785ab&hm=98aa0e47bdf3bcfab20f1d7552b20f21f204cec68aee5e01c8f2653964b17f0b&
[21:50] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1474161269115195422/276455-teen-agent-dos-mega-bank-the-scene-of-the-crime.png?ex=6998d72b&is=699785ab&hm=83b60836112286d9968d03c2de16cb7961e83c67c04b3ff2f861acebca4a8978&
[21:52] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Another weird one is the pattern on the walls here. I get the need to shift colors or different dithering, but not sure what's up with that change. VGA could easily handle that 🤷
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[21:52] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1474161775808352356/16474186-teen-agent-amiga-in-the-meantime-scene-corridor.png?ex=6998d7a3&is=69978623&hm=f42be138949c376c0730c1667de9341148c334bab17e3c36a0e6fa7448cc9087&
[21:52] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1474161776651403538/1202220-teen-agent-dos-inside-the-mansion.png?ex=6998d7a4&is=69978624&hm=d259c98c734e0cb8d678e14cd2db0335bfccf170314437c46c759e90874af2bc&
[22:01] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Actually... floppies might be the answer. The Amiga could store more data in a single floppy as opposed to DOS. It's possible they simplified the graphics to potentially save an extra floppy during this conversion (depending on whatever compression method was used).
[22:02] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> Pure speculation, but it's the only thing that makes sense. If the Amiga version weighs similarly, that could be it.
[22:20] <grogbot_> [discord] <lephilousophe> I don't know the game, but RLE would gain a lot of size on simplified graphics
[22:25] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> For sure. But what I see here is *better* dithering on DOS (arguably more demanding to compress) with less general details across the scenes.
[22:25] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> This is all very intriguing and demands further analysis 🧐
[22:25] <grogbot_> [discord] <agustin> As far as I can tell, the Amiga version was shipped on 6 DD disks and DOS on 3 HD disks. Saving that extra HD disk could have been a reason, but who knows...
[22:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] AndywinXp closed pull request #7243: SCUMM: MI2 NI DOS Demo - Add support for original demo.rec playback file (master...mi2-ni-demo-playback) https://is.gd/Z8OgQq
[22:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] AndywinXp pushed 3 new commits to master: https://is.gd/urHCZ4
[22:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master 16b39af robertmegone: SCUMM: MI2 NI DOS Demo - Add support for original demo.rec playback file
[22:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6a7baa9 robertmegone: SCUMM: MI2 NI DOS Demo - Flip the toggle from disable demo to enable.
[22:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master cb2d9ae robertmegone: SCUMM: MI2 NI Dos Demo - Adjust wording of playback toggle.
[22:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/wnfdal
[22:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master ca61102 weblate: I18N: Update translations templates
[22:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/XtWLyK
[22:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master af00c64 weblate: I18N: Update translation files
[23:02] <grogbot_> [discord] <robertmegone> Oh fun! I'd like to see the differences for all the screens. Thanks!
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