ScummVM IRC Log - 14 Oct 2024

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[01:48] <Scummette> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/86PFcX
[01:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master fdb23e7 digitall: SCUMM: BASKETBALL: Fix Duplicated Branch GCC Compiler Warning
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[04:30] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/8slruj
[04:30] <Scummette> scummvm/master cf703f9 aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Small sync code on isTransparentAt
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[04:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master e49533c aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Sync pickGetIntersect with original
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[05:21] <Scummette> scummvm/master f18edb5 aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Sync BaseObject::getMatrix with original code
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[05:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5f06975 aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Small simplification in BaseObject::getMatrix
[05:29] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/osSePe
[05:29] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0e52c23 aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Small simplification in BaseObject::getMatrix
[05:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/H9PAIo
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[08:19] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/FDPzCi
[08:19] <Scummette> scummvm/master 99c37e2 aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Coverity fix CID: 1563757
[10:45] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer pushed 4 new commits to master: https://is.gd/VZwbVG
[10:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 1b5df20 neuromancer: FREESCAPE: convert menu strings to uppercase
[10:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 74c21e6 neuromancer: FREESCAPE: load font for castle demo for amiga
[10:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 11b40ec neuromancer: FREESCAPE: correctly load title screen for driller amiga
[10:45] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/8qEG8D
[10:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3f59290 weblate: I18N: Update translations templates
[11:37] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/DMxW1X
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[11:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/qWxOON
[11:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 282e6b9 Strangerke: M4: RIDDLE: Partial implementation of room 804 (no parser)
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[15:50] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/fHUUIe
[15:50] <Scummette> scummvm/master 15957c3 aquadran: GRIM: Put warning message for user after restore from save game. Related with bug #13139 and #14987
[15:50] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/cxS13Q
[15:50] <Scummette> scummvm/master 957f8cf weblate: I18N: Update translations templates
[16:33] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/DOunal
[16:34] <Scummette> scummvm/master c861892 aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Sync function loadAnimationKeyData code with original
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[16:57] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/RlLITZ
[16:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5701ebd aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Synced code with original for Animate::update function
[17:09] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> Hii
[17:13] <grogbot> [discord] <dreammaster> G'day
[17:13] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> hi!
[17:14] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> Straight to the point. People, is there any way to have fps interpolation by ai upscaling or something?
[17:15] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> huh?
[17:15] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> probably?
[17:15] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> but why ScummVM?
[17:22] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> Because I would like to play old p&c games with higher fps?
[17:27] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> it is not possible technically
[17:27] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> I mean, without changing the underlying graphics
[17:27] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> real time upscaling with AI will not perform, it requires several seconds per frame on high-end computers
[17:27] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> we have shader-based scalers, you might consider trying those
[17:32] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> Well i would expect it cpuld be possible with these new gpu features but ok.
[17:34] <gsish> stupid question? can't the GPU perhaps scale images itself outside of the ScummVM application? so that the software need not change
[17:34] <gsish> but then what's the point of playing old games at higher frame rates? does this not contradict the very purpose of running old games?
[17:57] <Scummette> [scummvm] mgerhardy pushed 5 new commits to master: https://is.gd/zg814J
[17:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6905559 mgerhardy: TWINE: added frame time visualisation for the imgui debugger
[17:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9d1abc0 mgerhardy: TWINE: use push/popid for showing multiple palettes to prevent an id clash
[17:57] <Scummette> scummvm/master d9efa04 mgerhardy: TWINE: fixed FrameMarker values for fps
[18:07] <Scummette> [scummvm] mgerhardy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/eUBKWW
[18:07] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9b82d3b mgerhardy: TWINE: don't allow to bring up menus if we are in palette fading mode
[18:09] <Scummette> [scummvm] mgerhardy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/ArDoY1
[18:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6e6caf7 mgerhardy: TWINE: fixed logic error from previous commit
[18:16] <ScummBot> Build [#7525](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/builders/171/builds/7525) of `master-riscos` failed.
[18:17] <ScummBot> Build [#7526](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/builders/173/builds/7526) of `master-riscos-vfp` failed.
[18:22] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> Well I want my kids to play them and the low fps is really bot helping
[18:24] <ScummBot> Build [#11047](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/builders/34/builds/11047) of `fetch-master` failed.
[18:29] <grogbot> [discord] <gu3> Which game you noted low fps in particular?
[18:29] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> Full Throtle
[18:29] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> Full Throttle (edited)
[18:31] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> Frame interpolation is going to look horrible on 2D sprites 😄
[18:31] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> Expecially 2D sprites which were meant to run at a certain speed and have no other manually drawn in-between frames
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[18:37] <Scummette> [scummvm] larsamannen closed pull request #6182: IOS7: Crash fix + on screen button alignments (master...ls_align_buttons) https://is.gd/y50TmS
[18:37] <Scummette> [scummvm] larsamannen pushed 4 new commits to master: https://is.gd/6jWwhZ
[18:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5ffb00d larsamannen: IOS7: Hide burger menu button when in launcher
[18:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master f2b1bbd larsamannen: IOS7: Put burger menu button below touch mode button
[18:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master f460c6c larsamannen: IOS7: Add margins to on-screen control buttons

[18:39] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> it doesnt have fps interpolation
[18:40] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> Is FPS really what you mean here?
[18:41] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> I.e. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation
[18:44] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> The nomenclature is somewhat confusing as we can render most of the games at thousands of FPS on a modern computer, but since they are pre animated 2D titles mostly, the animations themselves have fixed frame rates, for a game like Monkey Island that rate is by some considered a bit low when going to the Special Edition, as the higher res characters come of as more staccato when keeping the same number of frames in each animation.
[18:45] <grogbot> [discord] <somaen> We do not have any solution for injecting interpolated frames in those animations currently.
[18:51] <grogbot> [discord] <ogarvey> It's remastered, why would it?
[18:54] <grogbot> [discord] <aftpeaktank> I dont understand your point.
[19:15] <Scummette> [scummvm] mgerhardy pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/aq1RCB
[19:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master bdee243 mgerhardy: TWINE: renamed method to match original sources
[19:15] <Scummette> scummvm/master fec46ac mgerhardy: TWINE: renamed member to match original sources
[19:23] <grogbot> [discord] <invwar> why do you need more fps?
[19:29] <grogbot> [discord] <invwar> you might use tv internal stuff like trumotion or so, it works quite fine, if this is, what you want
[19:49] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/2ph9cs
[19:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master 984eb9e aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Switch to skinmesh API for skinning
[20:17] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/kfhGbh
[20:17] <Scummette> scummvm/master 486d15f aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Switch to internal skinmesh API for generate adjacency
[20:28] <grogbot> [discord] <oneeighthundred> Increasing the frame rate of games made for a specific frame rate is extremely hard for a whole bunch of reasons. Especially if the game isn't using float math, which SCUMM games almost certainly are not.
[20:28] <Scummette> [scummvm] mgerhardy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/pTcMyd
[20:28] <Scummette> scummvm/master 8370685 mgerhardy: TWINE: document the enhancements a little bit better
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[20:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master f994177 athrxx: SCUMM: fix pauseEngineIntern
[20:49] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/MpdzuT
[20:49] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3db2277 weblate: I18N: Update translations templates
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[21:34] <Scummette> [scummvm] yuv422 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/mi7P3I
[21:34] <Scummette> scummvm/master 89bb1e5 : DARKSEED: Remove duplicate condition in expression. PVS-Studio V501
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[22:43] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/6EnOY1
[22:43] <Scummette> scummvm/master d4b0834 Strangerke: M4: RIDDLE: Partial implementation of room 804 (WIP parser)
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