ScummVM IRC Log - 13 Apr 2026

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[02:29] <Scummette> [scummvm] mikrosk opened pull request #7426: GUI: Don't redraw all layers when closing tooltip (master...tooltips_opt) https://is.gd/pnYGSD
[04:41] <ScummBot> Build [#1654](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/builders/159/builds/1654) of `daily-master` completed successfully.
[05:01] <Scummette> [scummvm] mikrosk pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/QkuU5p
[05:01] <Scummette> scummvm/master 4b48865 mikrosk: BACKENDS: ATARI: Do not support macgui
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[05:54] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/V7doYJ
[05:54] <Scummette> scummvm/master 29a96d1 Strangerke: WAYNESWORLD: Implement first part of the demo 1
[05:56] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/7LNIYR
[05:56] <Scummette> scummvm/master 8ecfe54 Strangerke: WAYNESWORLD: Fix compilation
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[07:23] <grogbot> [discord] <felsqualle.com> oh well, thank you for that one, I totally forgot about it and didn't know how to translate it 😄
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[09:17] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Good morning everyone
[09:18] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> So... I'm not sure where is the Rabid part in that code
[09:19] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> If the difference is only between having opening and closing or not
[09:19] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Wikipedia says this:
[09:19] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> > '...' and "..." are known as neutral, vertical, straight, typewriter, dumb, or ASCII quotation marks. The left and right marks are identical. These are the symbols found on typical QWERTY keyboards, although they are sometimes automatically converted to the other type by software.
[09:19] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> > ... and ... are known as typographic, curly, curved, book, or smart quotation marks. (The doubled ones are more informally known as "66 and 99".[17][18]) The beginning marks look like commas raised to the ascender line and rotated 180 degrees (and thus known as 'inverted commas'). The ending marks look like commas raised to the ascender line. Curved quotation marks are used mainly in manuscript, printing, and typesetting.
[09:20] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> For example, `Neutral quotes ("...")` and `Curly quotes (...)`
[09:20] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> (I'm using doubles here so in the GUI the change is more obvious than with singles)
[09:21] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Checking some rando Unicode page, the neutrals are just called "Quotation mark" and the typographics are called "Left/Right double quotation mark"
[09:22] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Still not sure on the Rabid part just by seeing that snipped
[09:22] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Still not sure on the Rabid part just by seeing that snippet (edited)
[09:23] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> the Rabid part comes from the original code of the engine
[09:23] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> https://github.com/garglk/garglk/blob/master/garglk/garglk.ini#L66
[09:24] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Sorry, what I meant is that I can't figure out just by the snippet reposted here by eieintei what is value 2 actually doing
[09:24] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> I only see what's done in setting 1, "normal"
[09:28] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> https://github.com/garglk/garglk/blob/master/garglk/wintext.cpp#L947 for the code
[09:31] <grogbot> [discord] <bmsbotje> the default is to convert `'` to a closing right quote, always.
[09:32] <grogbot> [discord] <bmsbotje> if you set that quotes parameter to 2 it converts `'` to an opening left quote in certain places (start of the lien, after whitespace, after a `[` or `(` and similar)
[09:32] <grogbot> [discord] <bmsbotje> if you set that quotes parameter to 2 it converts `'` to an opening left quote in certain places (start of the line, after whitespace, after a `[` or `(` and similar) (edited)
[09:33] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> if it's 0, it doesn't change anything
[09:33] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> if it's 1, it changes ` by and ' by and " by (if previous char says to) or
[09:33] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> if it's 2, it additionally changes ' (if previous char says to) by
[09:33] <grogbot> [discord] <bmsbotje> So a better description of the levels would be off, simple, full.
[09:39] <grogbot> [discord] <bmsbotje> or off/on/extended
[09:48] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> It also dates back to the original svn commit there, 18 years ago
[09:48] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> It also dates back to the original svn commit there, over 15 years ago (edited)
[09:52] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> ah sorry
[09:52] <grogbot> [discord] <lephilousophe> I didn't scroll back to see what you wrote
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[11:44] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> So off, curly simple, curly double? Is that the order?
[11:48] <grogbot> [discord] <bmsbotje> that might be confusing wrt double quotes.
[13:09] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Sorry, I was trying to understand this, not to propose new names
[13:23] <grogbot> [discord] <bmsbotje> with quotes=1 a `'` is always treated as a closing quote. with quotes=2 it can become an opening quote in certain situations.
[14:09] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/ySv0JK
[14:09] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3a41ed2 robertmegone: AGOS: Fix Elvira 2 Atari ST colors
[14:10] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #7424: AGOS: Fix Elvira 2 Atari ST colours (master...e2-atari-st-palette) https://is.gd/VNdmv1
[14:10] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 4 new commits to master: https://is.gd/dmMAp2
[14:10] <Scummette> scummvm/master 635d855 robertmegone: AGOS: PN Amiga improvements and quick save/load
[14:10] <Scummette> scummvm/master aeb3751 robertmegone: AGOS: Simplify PN Amiga width handling
[14:10] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0629e6e robertmegone: AGOS: Back out of quicksave changes, swallow input instead
[14:10] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #7374: AGOS: PN Amiga improvements and prevent quick save/load crash (master...pn-amiga) https://is.gd/ALAM8D
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[14:22] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/y3Nimf
[14:22] <Scummette> scummvm/master e7cdc70 Purple T: I18N: Update translation (French)
[14:24] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> Still somewhat related to this. Is it just me that hates when websites or phones decide to use `U+201C / U+201D`, and `U+2018 / U+2019`, instead of `U+0022` and `U+0027`? IMO, the purpose of those stylised quotation marks are in books and probably fanfiction. :KEKW:
[14:24] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> Still somewhat related to this. Is it just me that hates when websites or phones decide to use `U+201C / U+201D`, and `U+2018 / U+2019`, instead of `U+0022` and `U+0027`? IMO, the purpose of those stylised quotation marks are for books and probably fanfiction. :KEKW: (edited)
[14:26] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> It looks totally out of place in a normal setting. 🤣
[14:42] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> If so, then your option names do seem to be more apt
[14:43] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> It will definitely need a good description on the option hint message
[14:43] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> I guess its a taste thing& Or a language thing
[14:44] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Spanish doesnt use ' that much, so the automated open/closed quotes work fine
[14:44] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Meanwhile English has its apostrophe rules
[14:45] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Im someone who also defends keeping literature rules on long-text format games, such as VN
[14:45] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Im someone who also defends keeping literature rules on long-text format games, such as modern VNs (edited)
[14:45] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> But Im a minority, as VNs are already accustoming Spanish players to English rules on quotation
[14:46] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> But Im a minority, as VNs are already making Spanish players get used to English rules on quotation (edited)
[14:47] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> I hate more that I am an angular quotes user and Microslop Word has always forced me English double quotes
[14:47] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> (On Spanish, I mean)
[14:48] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> As somebody living in England, I would associate (U+201C) and (U+201D) with something you'd find in a written work, like a novel or an autobriography.
[14:48] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Id say computers have gotten us used to what a century or two ago were nonstandard quotation marks
[14:49] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> Maybe for English it was the switch to non directional quotes and for Spanish, from angular to straight
[14:49] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> It was a free decades ago when ASCII only had one quotation mark available
[14:50] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> It was a few decades ago when ASCII only had one quotation mark available (edited)
[14:50] <grogbot> [discord] <ctxcb> I'm just used to ". 😂
[14:50] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> That has effects across the globe
[14:50] <grogbot> [discord] <ilducci> It was a few decades ago when ASCII only had one double quotation mark available (edited)
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[17:11] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #7418: BACKENDS: Remove EventsBaseBackend (master...events-base-backend) https://is.gd/hKxeOg
[17:11] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/1kcu75
[17:11] <Scummette> scummvm/master fb175a8 ccawley2011: BACKENDS: Remove EventsBaseBackend
[17:34] <Scummette> [scummvm] prograhamer opened pull request #7427: VIDEO: Check validity of granulepos in TheoraVideoTrack::decodePacket (master...fix-theora-syberia) https://is.gd/zzAeDK
[17:39] <Scummette> [scummvm] robertmegone opened pull request #7428: AGOS: Fix subtitle rendering for Simon II Amiga (master...simon2-amiga-subtitles) https://is.gd/wQcO7U
[17:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] lotharsm pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/eFgRpi
[17:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master 736ba42 lotharsm: DIRECTOR: Add missing Macintosh variants for Webmaster
[18:26] <ScummBot> Build [#17406](https://buildbot.scummvm.org/#/builders/73/builds/17406) of `master-3ds` failed: compile (failure)
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[19:16] <grogbot> [discord] <eduardo8oito1469> Hey everyone!
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[19:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #7428: AGOS: Fix subtitle rendering for Simon II Amiga (master...simon2-amiga-subtitles) https://is.gd/wQcO7U
[19:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/93KWqU
[19:58] <Scummette> scummvm/master 85dc44b robertmegone: AGOS: Fix subtitle rendering for Simon II Amiga
[20:02] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #7427: VIDEO: Check validity of granulepos in TheoraVideoTrack::decodePacket (master...fix-theora-syberia) https://is.gd/zzAeDK
[20:02] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/CAqTzm
[20:02] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6469df1 prograhamer: VIDEO: Check validity of granulepos in TheoraVideoTrack::decodePacket
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[20:47] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/UwdE26
[20:47] <Scummette> scummvm/master 482b7a4 sev-: SLUDGE: Added two new games to detection
[20:47] <Scummette> scummvm/master c62d20f sev-: NEWS: Mention newly added games to SLUDGE
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[22:05] <grogbot> [discord] <firefly128> man I do love a super clean build, my libsolcompat library makes it so the gcc toolchain only requires 8 patches for Solaris 7, and 3 are active gcc bugs 😄
[22:09] <grogbot> [discord] <firefly128> addressing every warning ever instead of suppressing them pays off
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