ScummVM IRC Log - 06 Apr 2025

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[00:29] <grogbot> [discord] <ogarvey> Interesting stuff, wonder if there's anything in the CD-i games (Laser Lords, Alice In Wonderland) that's related. I noticed Below The Root which Dale DeSharone also worked on, looks to - from screenshots at least - use a similar screen layout and tile system
[00:30] <grogbot> [discord] <ogarvey> Although looking at the list of games, Below The Root doesn't appear
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[06:27] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/KifDQa
[06:27] <Scummette> scummvm/master f7e6682 Strangerke: M4: RIDDLE: Fix original bug in room 703 (walking from room 706)
[06:27] <Scummette> scummvm/master d17911a Strangerke: M4: RIDDLE: Fix dialog with monk #6 not starting in room 704
[06:57] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> The original Below the Root and Alice games shared an engine, though it's different from the SAS one that I'm investigating. (And the CD-i ones are remakes, so it'll be yet another engine behind those...) But definitely those are games that could do with more attention.
[06:58] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> @ogarvey The original Below the Root and Alice games shared an engine, though it's different from the SAS one that I'm investigating. (And the CD-i ones are remakes, so it'll be yet another engine behind those...) But definitely those are games that could do with more attention. (edited)
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[07:50] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/q9BtFI
[07:50] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2d568a8 mduggan: DGDS: Call scene mouse ops in default path for inventory
[08:33] <Scummette> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn opened pull request #6540: SCUMM: Add enhancement for missing message when entering ship's hold (master...scumm-monkey-enter-hold) https://is.gd/NL3K8g
[08:36] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #6532: STARK: Support Hebrew fan translation (master...stark_he) https://is.gd/VBf5W7
[08:36] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/TwB65n
[08:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9517e68 BLooperZ: STARK: Support hebrew text
[08:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6b2e035 BLooperZ: STARK: Add detection entry for hebrew fan translation
[09:36] <Scummette> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/pScs63H
[09:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master 68836b9 Strangerke: M4: RIDDLE: Fix dialog with monk #7 and 8 not starting in room 704
[09:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5153943 Strangerke: M4: RIDDLE: Fix blocker when talking to monk #12 in room 705
[09:58] <Scummette> [scummvm] For-Chance opened pull request #6541: HPL1: Add a new detection entry for Penumbra: Overture (master...fix/add_entry) https://is.gd/cPjC2W
[10:48] <Scummette> [scummvm] mikrosk opened pull request #6542: JANITORIAL: Add missing references to const function parameters (master...const_ref) https://is.gd/Ab1Qnw
[11:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer pushed 3 new commits to master: https://is.gd/HYTTd5
[11:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master ccca886 neuromancer: FREESCAPE: initial incomplete driller c64 music emulation
[11:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master d243784 neuromancer: FREESCAPE: avoid terminating game when pressing esc in the menu
[11:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master 2bae557 neuromancer: PRIVATE: completed support for reading cursors from exe
[11:05] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Blz6Yb
[11:05] <Scummette> scummvm/master 1a92231 weblate: I18N: Update translations templates
[11:08] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/XdQVhO
[11:08] <Scummette> scummvm/master ffa29f6 weblate: I18N: Update translation files
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[11:52] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/970aL0
[11:52] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0a6802a neuromancer: FREESCAPE: missing format and fixes in the incomplete sid code
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[12:46] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Onb0HZ
[12:46] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3594eb5 OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA: Use C++ 11 range-based for loops
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[13:55] <Scummette> [scummvm] OMGPizzaGuy pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/00EeYv
[13:55] <Scummette> scummvm/master 82b884d OMGPizzaGuy: ULTIMA: Remove unused variable declaration to fix build
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[15:14] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #6541: HPL1: Add a new detection entry for Penumbra: Overture (master...fix/add_entry) https://is.gd/cPjC2W
[15:14] <Scummette> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/eRMYb8
[15:14] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3beddd8 For-Chance: HPL1: Add a new detection entry for Penumbra: Overture
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[19:21] <Scummette> [scummvm] BabaSambar opened pull request #6543: DIRECTOR: DEBUGGER: Add channel selection in channel and score debug dialog (master...master) https://is.gd/BPZHix
[20:36] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Keep in mind that the PC booter Below The Root looks to have been designed for a CGA composite monitor
[20:36] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1358540864644845920/Monitor_1_20230124-165145-273273.png?ex=67f43746&is=67f2e5c6&hm=945413c5fe4cc76d37fc77d3096d95a2e6d1552f28ce6932fe530407636b0b70&
[20:37] <Scummette> [scummvm] BallM4788 opened pull request #6544: 3DS: Fix top screen not fully rendering in some cases (master...patch-3) https://is.gd/5AnFxL
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[21:43] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> @eientei Right. I read something in my research (on Wikipedia I think?), that mentioned how the designer was disappointed with the IBM and Apple II ports, since they had less colors than the Atari ST and C64.
[21:44] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> I'm trying to understand the C64 graphics as it compares to the IBM, and I'm not sure it carries over at all
[21:44] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> I'm trying to understand the C64 graphics as it compares to the IBM with the SAS games, and I'm not sure it carries over at all (edited)
[21:44] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> I'm trying to understand the C64 graphic format as it compares to the IBM with the SAS games, and I'm not sure it carries over at all (edited)
[21:47] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> ...but there's a tantalizing similarity in that it looks like there's a three byte pattern...
[21:47] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> I guess I need to see if I can find a hex editor for C64 so I can play with the files
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[21:50] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> Or..... it looks like D64 is 1:1 image and I can just twiddle bits on the disk from outside the emulator?
[21:54] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> Or..... it looks like D64 is 1:1 image and I can just twiddle bits on the disk from outside the emulator? EDIT: Yes, I can! (edited)
[21:56] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> Or..... it looks like D64 is 1:1 image and I can just twiddle bits on the disk from outside the emulator? EDIT: Yes, I can! EDIT 2: But it's locked when it's in use, so I have to keep restarting. Ungh. (edited)
[22:03] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> Or..... it looks like D64 is 1:1 image and I can just twiddle bits on the disk from outside the emulator? EDIT: Yes, I can! EDIT 2: But it's locked when it's in use, so I have to keep restarting. Ungh. EDIT 3: OK, I just have to detach and re-attach the disk; that's easier, except VICE's file chooser sucks. (edited)
[22:14] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Experiment with Vice's monitor, it lets you export stuff from memory and modify bytes etc.
[22:48] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> Wow, really?
[22:52] <grogbot> [discord] <nutzzzo> Or..... it looks like D64 is 1:1 image and I can just twiddle bits on the disk from outside the emulator? EDIT: Yes, I can! EDIT 2: But it's locked when it's in use, so I have to keep restarting. Ungh. EDIT 3: OK, I just have to detach and re-attach the disk; that's easier, except VICE's file chooser sucks. EDIT 4: Oh, no, it's just the "Smart Attach" and "Attach" have differently last-used locations. (edited)
[23:33] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> Yeah. Read the manual
[23:33] <grogbot> [discord] <eientei> https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/vice_12.html
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