ScummVM IRC Log - 05 Oct 2025

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[06:42] <Scummette> [scummvm] kelmer44 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/k7Z81D
[06:42] <Scummette> scummvm/master b29a59a kelmer44: TOT: Frees array on diploma generation (as reported by coverity)
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[08:23] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/IiowTT
[08:23] <Scummette> scummvm/master 1367ee7 mduggan: ACCESS: Fix possible font color issue on MM establish
[08:31] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/IcF35U
[08:31] <Scummette> scummvm/master c2eb796 mduggan: ACCESS: Add detection for a MM variant
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[10:35] <Scummette> [scummvm] tag2015 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/x6TTV8
[10:35] <Scummette> scummvm/master 843a03d tag2015: WINTERMUTE: Mark four freeware games as supported
[10:35] <Scummette> scummvm/master e434900 tag2015: WINTERMUTE: Mark Shaban ENG supported
[10:42] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/j6fmXp
[10:42] <Scummette> scummvm/master cc1e27e aquadran: NEWS: Added 'Shaban' as supported
[10:48] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/L5b6Ky
[10:48] <Scummette> scummvm/master 9432406 aquadran: NEWS: Added more Wintermute games
[11:10] <Scummette> [scummvm] dwatteau opened pull request #6961: Drop pre-C++11 compat code (master...feat/remove-old-pre-c++11-compat-code) https://is.gd/SHEngx
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[12:37] <Scummette> [scummvm] dwatteau pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Cr8MLI
[12:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master 3583f0a dwatteau: PRIVATE: Fix detection plugin build with MSVC 2015 (C1004)
[12:37] <Scummette> scummvm/master c433fea dwatteau: MEDIASTATION: Fix detection plugin build with MSVC 2015 (C1004)
[12:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] neuromancer pushed 3 new commits to master: https://is.gd/WcgXbk
[12:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master c07f22b neuromancer: FREESCAPE: corrected perspective when aiming direction is changed
[12:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 620fc6e neuromancer: FREESCAPE: Small fixes for castle master (dos)
[12:45] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7b72780 neuromancer: FREESCAPE: Implement dropping gate animation in castle
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[13:36] <Scummette> [scummvm] ScummVM-Translations pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/JMDwqq
[13:36] <Scummette> scummvm/master c443801 VAN-Gluon: I18N: Update translation (Japanese)
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[15:35] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1424419645909241876/image.png?ex=68e3e1ac&is=68e2902c&hm=77a9c06654cc7d5390310f09ec49bd20476af13501dbd76422428da9208b00ee&
[15:35] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> dum de dum
[15:35] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> mostly got it to a state where i can just create individual block viewer .py files
[15:35] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> so i just gotta do a lot of that and it should be quite nicely connected together
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[15:44] <Scummette> [scummvm] AndywinXp pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/cf9576
[15:44] <Scummette> scummvm/master d203c8c AndywinXp: SCUMM: FUNPACK: Add Putt-Putt's Fun Pack (Mac Floppy) version
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[15:53] <Scummette> [scummvm] dwatteau pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/Hy8lsN
[15:53] <Scummette> scummvm/master 7e22daf dwatteau: AGOS: Silence MSVC C4146 warning
[15:53] <Scummette> scummvm/master e4739e4 dwatteau: SCUMM: MACGUI: Remove a stray 'MacGuiImpl::' that confuses MSVC 2015
[16:17] <Scummette> [scummvm] Lariaa opened pull request #6962: DIRECTOR: add new detection entries for: (master...fixes) https://is.gd/3lBzMn
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[18:06] <Scummette> [scummvm] dwatteau pushed 11 new commits to master: https://is.gd/XPeZU7
[18:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master 99a1a6e dwatteau: BLADERUNNER: Fix build with MSVC 2015 (C1004)
[18:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master 22ab9d3 dwatteau: CRAB: Fix build with MSVC 2015 (C1004)
[18:06] <Scummette> scummvm/master f4b53b4 dwatteau: FREESCAPE: Fix build with MSVC 2015 (C1004)
[18:16] <Scummette> [scummvm] tnm23 pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/qA52vj
[18:16] <Scummette> scummvm/master 5409c08 tnm23: ZVISION: Add extra script processing cycles upon a location change.
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[19:21] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1424476495203668018/image.png?ex=68e4169d&is=68e2c51d&hm=fe0169a1fd8f7bcac798ea629386ff46b63faf264cfba81cc479f547d58c8779&
[19:21] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> this is gonna be a very useful annotation tool i reckon
[19:22] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> I'm loving whatever you are building; does it support DOTT only, for now?
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[19:23] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it should support s& too, but i havent tested anything but dott in a long time
[19:23] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it should support s&m too, but i havent tested anything but dott in a long time (edited)
[19:24] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it will need some whipping into shape to properly support MI2 and Full Throttle
[19:24] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> but i want it to at the very least support all the v6 games
[19:25] <grogbot> [discord] <bosca_bo> That's nice! Is it opensource yet? And which language is it built on?
[19:26] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it's entirely python and 99% chatgpt written
[19:27] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> will be opensource soon as it has a basic version of the full skeleton and some useful viewers
[19:27] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> some of its very hodge podge and lots of repeated functions etc
[19:27] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> im hoping to get it modular enough to replace any problematic black boxes over time
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[19:35] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> I wonder, did you already consult ScummEX utility sources?
[19:35] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i didn't
[19:35] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> ah, readyng further, 99% vibe coding. no. I pass
[19:35] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> ah, reading further, 99% vibe coding. no. I pass (edited)
[19:35] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it's just a described block tree view and snippets from scummexplorer, scummvm itself and nutcracker, at
[19:35] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it's just a described block tree view and snippets from scummexplorer, scummvm itself and nutcracker, atm (edited)
[19:36] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> some of the nutcracker stuff is libraried in, some of it is just part of the scripts atm
[19:36] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> something is wrong in the way it does fonts, one of the fonts has 1 extra px (or -1 px, i forgot which)
[19:37] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> and also something is wrong in one or two costumes it's decoded
[19:37] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> but other than that it's doing everything as i describe it, slowly over time
[19:37] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> elitism isn't very cool
[19:37] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i'm not looking to integrate into scummvm
[19:37] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> what do you mean by elitism?
[19:37] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it's an asset explorer i am throughouly testing for inconsistencies
[19:37] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> what did you mean by "i pass"?
[19:38] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> I pass from giving suggestions, they are useless, since it will be difficult for you to explain to AI
[19:38] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> ah, ok, fair
[19:38] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i am open if you have any
[19:38] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it's a mix of my own notes and plugging it through ai
[19:38] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> so, returning back to you, "elitism isn't very cool"
[19:38] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i thought you meant you pass on any interest on it
[19:38] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> simply because its vibe coding instead of all by hand
[19:38] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> but if thats not the case, then its all good
[19:39] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> well, the truth of the current state of AI, is that those yours "something wrong" are just beginnings, I am afraid
[19:39] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i think you under estimate the power of breaking tasks down into managable black boxes that return the expected value in all tested situations
[19:39] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> maybe, lol
[19:40] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> but I sa it oh-so-many-times
[19:40] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it's like reverse engineering techniques
[19:40] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> just powered by a different analysis tool
[19:40] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> at my daily job, hundreds of devs use AI on a daily basis
[19:40] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> anyway, look
[19:40] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i'm essentially building up a small ghidra type app for .000 files
[19:40] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> it serves your purpose
[19:41] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> and you seem to have fun
[19:41] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> we are here primarily for fun
[19:41] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> which should also allow me to write the files back at the end, becaus of nutcrackers existing work
[19:41] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> should be able to fix any script and translate any game in a very interactive form
[19:41] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> in the long term, i think that's a cool tool to have
[19:43] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> if it works, yes
[19:44] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> the possible sad outcome is that it could generate code to work with your _examples_, e.g. not a generic code
[19:44] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> :p
[19:44] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> literally, something like:
[19:45] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1424482720846713003/image.png?ex=68e41c6a&is=68e2caea&hm=c5d7f15e798161e55d9b8d0b1f6ef96c47729aebbcae1112649636353da9759b&
[19:45] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> samnmax looking just as good as tentacle, no modifications
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> ```C++
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> int sum(int a, int b) {
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> if (a == 2 && b == 2)
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> return 4;
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> else
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> throw exception "Ask GPT nicely for more variants to cover please, and generate new improved sum() function"
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> }
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> ```
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> ofc you'll know i'm not plugging whole game files into gpt :p im giving it small samples of bytes, fill specs, and example code to help it understand how to read it
[19:46] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> ofc you'll know i'm not plugging whole game files into gpt :p im giving it small samples of bytes, file specs, and example code to help it understand how to read it (edited)
[19:47] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> I do not see it as a counterexample, on the contrary, this is exactly my point: you throw finite number of files, it may generate code to cover just those
[19:47] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> well yeah
[19:47] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> the key word here is "may"
[19:47] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> it's a block based viewer
[19:47] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> i haven't implemented them all yet
[19:48] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581224061091446795/1424483282849894530/image.png?ex=68e41cf0&is=68e2cb70&hm=37754939295382b226e8f53ba88d5fcb0434524b5d3997711609aca710326ccb&
[19:48] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> this is the structure
[19:48] <grogbot> [discord] <sev____> anyway, I feel like I unnecessarily wasting your time. You could've coded something new
[19:49] <grogbot> [discord] <neodement> coolio, i hope i can show smth impressive at the end of it
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[20:13] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://is.gd/MCFmQ0
[20:13] <Scummette> scummvm/master ee9f868 sev-: WAGE: Sanity check for presence of sounds in file
[20:13] <Scummette> scummvm/master 016680e sev-: GRAPHICS: MACGUI: Do not prematurely stop event processing on modifier keys
[20:40] <Scummette> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/G59pyy
[20:40] <Scummette> scummvm/master e47ae44 sev-: WAGE: More robust script decompilation
[21:02] <Scummette> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/ZsRmWC
[21:02] <Scummette> scummvm/master 44ed21a digitall: GUI: Fix Rich Text Widget To Compile When Translation Is Disabled
[21:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] mduggan pushed 4 new commits to master: https://is.gd/NUMtQt
[21:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 6d5c6d8 mduggan: ACCESS: Remove some unused functions
[21:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 05f3f1b mduggan: ACCESS: Fix small memory leak
[21:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master 0a9d2ec mduggan: ACCESS: Reduce warnings
[21:59] <Scummette> [scummvm] aquadran pushed 1 new commits to master: https://is.gd/BOCL6D
[21:59] <Scummette> scummvm/master ca292d5 aquadran: WINTERMUTE: Add only notable Wintermute games
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