ScummVM IRC Log - 18 Apr 2017

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[04:50] <GitHub157> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSbl8

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[06:33] <Lightkey> https://www.gog.com/promo/20170417_weekly_sale Pajama Sam, Rex Nebular, yadda yadda..
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[07:15] <Strangerke|work> hi guys
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[12:32] <mudlord> hi
[12:32] <mudlord> was there a license exemption for Double Fine?
[12:33] <mudlord> I guess I wouldnt even get an answer
[12:33] <mudlord> because I found something odd
[12:34] <Strangerke|work> Hi! What did you notice?
[12:34] <mudlord> I noticed some strings in the executable that directly match with ScummVM
[12:35] <mudlord> Also, the code offsets is extremely odd
[12:35] <mudlord> as in, suspicious
[12:35] <mudlord> http://imgur.com/a/6SpRK
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[12:36] <mudlord> their executable is 32bit
[12:36] <mudlord> but I thought some things were VERY odd
[12:36] <mudlord> and I thought you guys gave them a license exemption
[12:36] <mudlord> but I even see a CONTRIBUTING in the file list
[12:37] <mudlord> I found a internal filelist in the executable
[12:37] <mudlord> that could match with the 5GB data file
[12:37] <mudlord> I see no "CONTRIBUTING" or other license files on disc
[12:38] <Strangerke|work> Hum, nice. Well, I know nothing about this release, I'll have to buy it in order to check. Maybe some other member own it and will check before :)
[12:38] <mudlord> http://imgur.com/a/pH04n
[12:39] <Strangerke|work> Thanks for the hint :)
[12:39] <mudlord> yeah, I raised it on my twitter, because I normally disassemble stuff for fun
[12:39] <mudlord> and I found this really bothers me
[12:39] <mudlord> since
[12:39] <mudlord> A) I loved ScummVM when I was a kid
[12:39] <Strangerke|work> If you like disassembling things, you should contribute to ScummVM ;)
[12:39] <mudlord> B) I love Full Throttle
[12:40] <Strangerke|work> (The more, the merriest)
[12:40] <mudlord> yeah, this is the Full Throttle Remastered rls on GOG atm
[12:40] <mudlord> 32bit binary
[12:40] <mudlord> http://imgur.com/a/pH04n
[12:41] <mudlord> for some parts they use SDL/zlib/theora/vorbis it seems
[12:41] <mudlord> maybe like a hybrid engine Blizzard is doing with SC1
[12:41] <mudlord> and its remake
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[12:45] <mudlord> Address=009761C5
[12:45] <mudlord> Disassembly=push throttle.C52EEC
[12:45] <mudlord> String="ScummGameTask"
[12:50] <Strangerke|work> Maybe it's part of the original engine
[12:50] <mudlord> hmmm
[12:51] <mudlord> SDL seems to be bundled in
[12:52] <mudlord> http://imgur.com/a/D5Bcp
[13:00] <wjp> It's quite possible we duplicate error messages from the original scumm engine
[13:01] <mudlord> oh
[13:04] <mudlord> thought this was weird
[13:04] <mudlord> http://imgur.com/WTSaCQI
[13:08] <mudlord> (x64dbg comes with a built in decompiler)
[13:21] <LePhilousophe> maybe not the same code: look at the end of the 2nd loop eax8->f0 = 0; and vm.nest[i].slot = 0xff;
[13:23] <mudlord> yeah, the nukearrays code seems not there
[14:05] <Tea> mudlord: Did you find similar stuff in DOTT, or even MISE by any chance?
[14:05] <Tea> afaik DOTT and MISE are the same engine, but I haven't downloaded FT yet
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[15:26] <snover> m_kiewitz, waltervn, wjp do any of you have an annotated sci0 idb you can send me, or can you check to see how scripts blocks were loaded? im guessing that the interpreter loops over all the blocks in the script and has some `switch` in the loop for handling each block type, and so if there are 2 exports blocks the second one overrides the first one, but i want to make sure that is the case.
[15:31] <wjp> I don't think I have any relevant SCI0 IDB
[15:31] <waltervn> I don't have one unfortunately. lskovlun might
[15:31] <waltervn> not sure if he uses/used IDA though
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[15:50] <snover> thanks
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[16:03] <snover> my internet connection is all messed up today.
[16:04] <snover> sorry for the noise.
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[16:28] <m_kiewitz> snover: I have quite a few, but I think everything except scripting has comments
[16:28] <m_kiewitz> so the exact opposite of what you want
[16:28] <snover> d'oh :)
[16:29] <wjp> freesci did the VM very well :-)
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[16:41] <snover> I guess its OK. I feel pretty confident in this fix, since I know why the old fix was wrong and only these buggy scripts have more than one export table.
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[16:47] <WooShell> meow =^.^=
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[16:48] <GitHub27> [scummvm] csnover pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vSNDr
[16:48] <GitHub27> scummvm/master a620b6c Colin Snover: SCI: Fix handling of buggy SCI0 export tables...
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[16:50] <wjp> ah, so that was now triggered this
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[17:04] <logix> has this been pasted here already? http://thewebsiteisdown.com/twidblog/day-of-the-tentacle-dependency-graph/
[17:04] <logix> oh, it's from 2016...
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[18:00] <snover> m_kiewitz, wjp: i would like to land most of the outstanding commits on my working branch, is there anything you would like me to put up for a PR review first?
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[20:03] <[md5]> good evening :)
[20:30] <Joefish> evening
[20:33] <Strangerke> hey :) [md5] :)
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[20:33] <[md5]> hey Joefish, Strangerke :)
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[22:58] <mudlord> Tea: didnt look at these games
[22:58] <mudlord> I can send over the full throttle remastered executable only
[22:58] <Lightkey> twitch.tv/gogcom Full Throttle Remastered stream now
[22:58] <Lightkey> :-)
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[23:29] <mudlord> i wonder if i get banned by pointing out what i saw
[23:29] <mudlord> seemed REALLY odd
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[23:29] <mudlord> plus, they bundled the entirety of SDL 2
[23:29] <mudlord> but thats not a crime
[23:30] <mudlord> since its completely legit (zlib license or something)
[23:37] <mudlord> the GOG people seem to think that Double Fine and the outsourcer did everything by the book
[23:38] <mudlord> but i do find it weird i get code similarities, maybe they indeed use original SCUMM code at DF/LucasArts
[23:40] <mudlord> i saw references to imuse.c
[23:40] <mudlord> maybe thats a original SCUMM src file
[23:46] <mudlord> seems super odd they are using SDL2 with FMOD
[23:46] <mudlord> I seen in the data archive some mentions to FSB files, which are fmod sound banks
[23:46] <mudlord> maybe for hires audio
[23:46] <mudlord> since they redid the art
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