ScummVM IRC Log - 16 Jan 2017

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[00:21] <salty-horse> Cheeseness is live-tweeting Endy's linux.conf.au talk on ScummVM: https://twitter.com/ValiantCheese
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[00:24] <GitHub53> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMrO7
[00:24] <GitHub53> scummvm/master ad1bb85 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Fix SuccUBus not eating chicken when it has condiments
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[00:32] <GitHub104> [scummvm] csnover pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMr3m
[00:32] <GitHub104> scummvm/master 9ff4196 Colin Snover: BUILD: Fix PSP build of test runner
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[00:32] <snover> one to go&
[00:37] <Endy> I think that went fairly well.
[00:37] <Endy> I was worried I didn't have enough content, but I actually had to skim over a few points :)
[00:41] <Endy> salty-horse: The slides I presented are at http://sand.enderboi.com/~ender/final.pdf, a recording should be available in a week or so
[00:48] <Endy> Cheeseness is also doing a talk on porting DOTT to linux this afternoon, so bwahaha the adventure game world dominationness begins
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[01:02] <salty-horse> whee
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[01:09] <salty-horse> Endy, no residual slide :P
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[01:25] <Endy> I was supposed to mention Residual on the CABAL slide, but I'd just been given the "running out of time" hand signal and forgot blah!
[01:55] <snover> what the heck. i cant even compile DS on the build server manually
[01:56] <snover> totally different error than the one on test/runner
[01:56] <snover> complaining about missing DS::addAutoCompleteLine(char const*) and DS::sortAutoCompleteWordList()
[02:02] <snover> wordcompletion.o is empty?!
[02:03] <snover> oh, wow. this code is define-guarded with a #ifdef ENABLE_AGI
[02:06] <snover> dreammaster: could you hold off on pushing for the next couple minutes? i want to check something on the build server
[02:06] <snover> (just in case you were planning on pushing something in the next couple minutes)
[02:07] <snover> (specifically i want to verify that these apache2 processes are eating a ton of cpu because they are encapsulating the compilation, and not because something else bad is happening)
[02:09] <snover> however i suspect i am just about to run into the daily cron
[02:14] <snover> ok.
[02:15] <snover> you can do whatever again.
[02:15] <snover> something screwy is going on with apache2.
[02:15] <snover> 7 processes all pegging the cpu
[02:16] <snover> i really dislike apache.
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[02:18] <GitHub0> [scummvm-sites] digitall pushed 1 new commit to buildbot: https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm-sites/commit/0679117cbba79f87458c4e446f4a37d6c1869112
[02:18] <GitHub0> scummvm-sites/buildbot 0679117 D G Turner: BUILDBOT: Extend Untestable Platform Fix to Stable and Other Builders.
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[02:20] <GitHub136> [scummvm] stevenhoefel pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMrnj
[02:20] <GitHub136> scummvm/master d765bb3 stevenhoefel: DIRECTOR: Rewind shared cast memorystream before trying to load the data.
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[02:22] <steven_h> Apologies if i've just interrupted testing. Should've looked in here first!
[02:22] <digitall> *yawn*
[02:22] <snover> steven_h: its all good, i was done.
[02:22] Action: digitall checks logs
[02:22] Action: digitall decides he owes snover a very large beer
[02:22] <snover> these look like they are weblate processes&
[02:23] <snover> these look like they are *dead* weblate processes
[02:23] <snover> except by dead, i mean, spinning the cpu
[02:24] <Endy> Yuck :/
[02:24] <snover> Endy: do you have vm2 access?
[02:25] <snover> i would love a second pair of expert eyes looking at what i am looking at
[02:25] <Endy> Afraid not
[02:25] <snover> this is an outrage!
[02:25] Action: Endy has no comment :p
[02:25] <Endy> Tried stracing it to see what it's going?
[02:25] <Endy> Look at lsof, see if it's a locking issue
[02:25] <snover> not yet, just doing lsof right now
[02:25] <Endy> Um um other suggestions...
[02:26] <Endy> Start with that anyway :)
[02:26] <snover> they all appear to be processes that should have stopped, as they hold handles to e.g. access.log.1
[02:26] <snover> and they have no parent root apache2 process
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[02:31] <snover> and no strace activity

[02:45] <snover> ok, nukedem.
[02:45] <snover> everything should be faster now&
[02:46] Action: snover watches as the load average goes from 17 to 0.4. spinning processes are no joke!
[02:47] <digitall> snover: One further question...
[02:47] <snover> digitall: ok
[02:47] <snover> tell me!
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[02:48] <digitall> There is a warning that appears on several builders about adding a plus to make and then defaults to -j1
[02:48] <digitall> I think it indicates that the builder is failing to run in parallel due to an issue in the make rules and defaults back to -j1 i.e. serial build...
[02:48] <snover> digitall: can you link me to one?
[02:48] <digitall> That might explain why the rebuild takes so much time...
[02:48] <digitall> Will do
[02:49] <digitall> http://buildbot.scummvm.org/builders/master-android_arm/builds/2793/steps/compile/logs/warnings%20%282%29
[02:49] <digitall> The Android builds exhibit this
[02:50] <digitall> Yep looks to be Android specific
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[02:51] <snover> hm.
[02:52] <snover> the internet tells me that a common source of this is using `make` instead of `$(MAKE)` in places
[02:52] <snover> i know very little about the intricacies of make
[02:53] <snover> lets see if android has a port_mk
[02:53] <digitall> That it only happens with Android builds... makes me suspect the code in https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/blob/master/backends/platform/android/android.mk
[02:53] Action: Endy looks at his latest side project (PSVR implementation, and the 'build.sh' script)
[02:54] <Endy> Yeah, make is tricky cough I gave up hehe
[02:56] <snover> digitall: all the android builds or just the arm one?
[02:57] <digitall> All of them.
[02:58] <snover> i think it is /opt/toolchains/android/android-ndk-r9c/ndk-build:202
[02:58] <snover> or 205
[02:58] <snover> make running make again
[02:59] <Endy> mmmm recursion mmmm recursion
[02:59] <snover> so maybe putting a + at the beginning of the lines that invoke $GNUMAKE will address the problem
[03:00] <snover> maybe it can be passed by env
[03:00] <snover> GNUMAKE=$(MAKE) or something
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[03:00] <snover> though maybe that would not do what we want
[03:01] <Endy> that won't, it'll set GNUMAKE to the output of make in pwd
[03:01] <Endy> Pretty sure anyway
[03:01] <snover> im not sure what to do with a make that calls a script that invokes make
[03:02] <digitall> I have views, but they are mainly unprintable...
[03:02] <snover> reading the full output i dont know that this is really a problem
[03:03] <snover> ndk-build does some build stuff but it looks like the compilation is still happening outside of it
[03:03] <Endy> It's not a problem
[03:03] <digitall> Probably not... I did wonder. If we can kill the warning it would be good.
[03:03] <Endy> the missing environment stuff will just cause it to build sequentially instead of parallel
[03:03] <Endy> If you fixed it, you'd probably get something like "Ignoring -jX as running in a subprocess" anyway :P
[03:03] <digitall> Gah.
[03:03] <Endy> Because it'll ignore that on a recursive entry into make :)
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[03:05] <GitHub80> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMrCF
[03:05] <GitHub80> scummvm/master 4498b02 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Further clarifying fields of Chicken Dispensor
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[03:05] <snover> I dont even think it is that bad, it looks like this adk-build is probably just for building the android glue
[03:06] <steven_h> I think I need to play Starship Titanic... some of these commit comments are hilarious.
[03:07] <dreammaster> You're welcome, then. I too particularly enjoyed writing the commits about the pureed birds :)
[03:08] <Endy> Sounds like I need to read the commit log for titanic :)
[03:09] <Endy> Great game tho, that UK humor :)
[03:09] <Endy> (especially the stuff you can tell that DNA wrote)
[03:12] <dreammaster> Once I've gotten entirely through the game, I'm looking forward to trying out various things on the various Bots. Since I've got a cheat sheet, as it were, I'll be able to trigger all the various different specially handled responses each bot has
[03:14] <steven_h> reading the matrix for these games, as it were.
[03:14] <steven_h> anything particularly of interest so far?
[03:15] <snover> i look forward to titanic so much.
[03:15] <snover> steven_h: i dont think i understand your question
[03:16] <snover> can you say it again differently?
[03:21] <dreammaster> LOL
[03:21] <dreammaster> I tell you, some of the bugfixing for the conversation parser is maddening. For example, just today I realised that you can manually say "top of the well" to the Liftbot, and he'll take you there. Previously, I'd just used the remote icon in the PET
[03:22] <dreammaster> And of course my implementation doesn't do that, so I anticipate lots of laborious debugging tomorrow (yay long weekend) trying to figure out why
[03:22] <snover> i think the first time i played the game i didnt even know there was another way to go in the elevator, except to axe
[03:23] <dreammaster> I wished for an axe a few times trying to get the lift to work at all in the first place :)
[03:23] <snover> you just gotta type louder, the guy is old
[03:26] <steven_h> hahaha
[03:26] <steven_h> ok, now i'm convinced I need to play it
[03:27] <dreammaster> It'll also give me a chance to fix a few bugs in the original; like how the chicken dispensor works, like when the SuccUBus eats the chicken.
[03:28] <dreammaster> Fun fact, despite what the walkthrough I'm using says, the parrot eating the chicken without you getting Titania's piece isn't a dead end.. you can remove the fuse for the chicken in the fusebox and then put it back in again
[03:29] <snover> spoilers!
[03:29] <dreammaster> Sorry, my bad
[03:29] <snover> totally ruined now
[03:30] <dreammaster> :)
[03:37] <digitall> Right... breakfast.
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[03:47] <GitHub118> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMrlG
[03:47] <GitHub118> scummvm/master af8184d Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Woarkound original bug when SuccUBus eats the chicken
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[03:57] <steven_h> I see what you did there.
[03:57] <steven_h> Worked around the word.
[03:57] <steven_h> Well, more put work through the word around.
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[04:05] <GitHub0> scummvm/master 16da261 Thierry Crozat: I18N: Regenerate translations data file
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[06:02] <GitHub56> scummvm/master 694a840 D G Turner: DIRECTOR: Fix Unused Variable Compiler Warning.
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[06:46] <waltervn> morning
[07:07] <te_lanus> hi
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[07:19] <GitHub138> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMrgx
[07:19] <GitHub138> scummvm/master 657e541 D G Turner: SCI: Fix Possible Uninitialized Variable Usages.
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[08:06] <GitHub91> [scummvm] sev- pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMrw9
[08:06] <GitHub91> scummvm/master 541a715 Eugene Sandulenko: DIRECTOR: Fix copy/paste error
[08:06] <GitHub91> scummvm/master 1d94294 Eugene Sandulenko: DIRECTOR: Lingo: Fix initialization
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[08:22] <Strangerke|work> hi guys
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[09:51] <GitHub4> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMrMR
[09:51] <GitHub4> scummvm/master 5fbb4fc D G Turner: SWORD25: Fix Warnings about Copy Constructor Failing to Call Base Class.
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[10:08] <GitHub189> [scummvm] stevenhoefel pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMryW
[10:08] <GitHub189> scummvm/master 8638273 stevenhoefel: DIRECTOR: Implement function 'marker'.
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[12:09] <GitHub2> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMoJn
[12:09] <GitHub2> scummvm/master c004727 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Further cleanup of chicken dispensor
[12:09] <GitHub2> scummvm/master 4a14a56 Paul Gilbert: DEVTOOLS: Add more strings to create_titanic
[12:09] <GitHub2> scummvm/master 480532c Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Change chicken tooltips to use DAT strings
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[12:35] <GitHub46> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMoTp
[12:35] <GitHub46> scummvm/master 70dc84e Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Renamings and cleanup for chicken, sauce, and dispensor
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[12:43] <GitHub100> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMokV
[12:43] <GitHub100> scummvm/master f2e03d2 D G Turner: CLOUD: Fix Various Compiler Warnings By Adding Casts.
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[12:54] <GitHub48> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMoIz
[12:54] <GitHub48> scummvm/master 85a3dad D G Turner: CLOUD: Fix Various Variable Shadowing Compiler Warnings.
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[12:58] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 85a3dad9: Failure: master-openpandora, master-caanoo, master-gcw0, master-debian-x86_64
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[13:00] <GitHub101> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMoLk
[13:00] <GitHub101> scummvm/master aac2f75 D G Turner: CLOUD: Fix Compilation Failure....
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[13:03] <digitall> That should do it... sigh.
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[13:03] <GitHub116> [scummvm] digitall pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMoLu
[13:03] <GitHub116> scummvm/master c0a40e2 D G Turner: CLOUD: Fix Further Variable Shadowing Compiler Warnings.
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[13:04] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with aac2f751: Success: master-openpandora, master-caanoo, master-gcw0, master-debian-x86_64
[13:08] <dreammaster> \o/
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[13:22] <GitHub90> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMomI
[13:22] <GitHub90> scummvm/master 65d6edf Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Workaround to dispense a cold chicken when the fuse is removed...
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[14:54] <L0ngcat> does any of the SCI32 games require install, or can you copy them directly to folder?
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[14:55] <GitHub64> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMoWV
[14:55] <GitHub64> scummvm/master 953e4e6 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Renamings for light switches
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[15:52] <snover> L0ngcat: http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Datafiles#All_SCI32_.28SCI2.2F3.29_games
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[17:52] <L0ngcat> snover: Thanks, that is what I was reading, hence my question. I assume nothing need to be installed then :)
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[19:19] <snover> its possible to get to the end of mgdx but without the rewritten midi code the rhymes dont play
[19:21] <snover> so i dont know if i count this as another completable game or not
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[19:33] <snover> m_kiewitz: good news, i think i discovered a way to find when the game controls are active in sci1.1. a reference to the game controls object is stored at global 63, and you can check either its 'window' or 'state' properties to see if it is on-screen
[19:33] <snover> you can even check the 'highlightedIcon' property to see if it is pointing to an object with the name 'volumeSlider' if we wanted to be totally crazy about it
[19:35] <omer_mor> snover: why would you need to know that?
[19:36] <snover> because game scripts call kDoSoundMasterVolume to mess with the midi volume in the normal course of a game, so syncing whatever volume was passed to that kernel call (as is done now) screws up the stored volume in scummvm if the game has changed the volume itself
[19:37] <snover> like when there is speech, the volume gets reduced, and if you quit in the middle of that speech, now your music volume has spontaneously reduced itself
[19:51] <snover> incidentally, the volume slider in sci1.1 games doesnt change the DAC volume, so not sure that the sfx volume should be adjusted in ScummVM
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[21:46] <snover> hm. looks like i was a bit overly optimistic. sometime during sci1 that var started being populated
[21:51] <snover> next idea, maybe there is some flag somewhere for making the game paused. that would work too
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[23:17] <_sev> hmm
[23:17] <_sev> Wiki is down
[23:18] <_sev> and HostEurope is down as a while
[23:18] <_sev> whole
[23:18] <steven_h> This wiki? http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Developer_Central
[23:18] <steven_h> works here.
[23:19] <_sev> you have DNS cached
[23:19] <_sev> what I see is problem with DNS
[23:20] <_sev> which means that even www.scummvm.org looks down for some people
[23:24] <snover> _sev: are you still having a problem? i query the hosteurope NS directly from here and get a response
[23:26] <_sev> snover: it's back
[23:26] <snover> thats good.
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[23:32] <snover> _sev: on another note, i am not sure what to do with the DS build testing. the command to build the test runner makes it complain that -mno-fpu is not a flag. it seems like this is happening because the compiler is invoked with both compilation and linking in the same command?
[23:33] <_sev> snover: turn the testing off?
[23:33] <snover> it should work though
[23:33] <_sev> the port is unmaintained
[23:33] <_sev> and
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[23:33] <_sev> the machine is too small to run Wintermute anyway
[23:34] <snover> hm. so the testing goes off but the binary compiling stays on?
[23:34] <_sev> until it compiles without much trouble, yes
[23:35] <_sev> as a test that our code stays portable
[23:35] <snover> i feel like the only reason it isnt working is because i just dont know enough about compiler operation still.
[23:36] <snover> i can turn off the testing, but i would like to understand why this flag works to build scummvm but not to build the test runner
[23:36] <_sev> ok, I can take a look tomorrow then
[23:36] <_sev> now I'm going to bed
[23:36] <snover> thanks. i really appreciate it. :)
[23:36] <_sev> eriktorbjorn: I feel that soon we will skip fondu for Mac Font generation
[23:37] <_sev> eriktorbjorn: and read straight from the Apple-provided font files
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