ScummVM IRC Log - 05 Aug 2018

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[02:16] <SupSuper> where should engines include special instructions? the wiki?
[02:18] <dreammaster> README file
[02:18] <dreammaster> Ypi
[02:19] <dreammaster> You'll find section 3 has various game specific notes
[02:23] <SupSuper> thanks, how did i miss that
[02:25] <dreammaster> No worries.. let's face it, no one ever reads the README ;)
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[03:03] <Lightkey> via https://twitter.com/MissdAdventBook/status/1024110202528976897 neat Space Quest 7 artwork: http://richpowell.com/conceptual-art/
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[05:30] <scummvm-bugs> necros2k7 created ticket #10651: Blade runner save state support (https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/10651)
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[06:54] <scummvm-bugs> sev- closed ticket #10651: Blade runner save state support (https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/10651)
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[07:23] <peterkohaut> i'm working on save support for bladerunner, but there is a summer to enjoy:) so i'm very slow:(
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[07:28] <Strangerke> hi guys
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[11:51] <scummvm-bugs> necros2k7 created ticket #10652: Errors (https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/10652)
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[11:52] <scummvm-bugs> necros2k7 created ticket #10653: DS errors (https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/10653)
[11:54] <scummvm-bugs> necros2k7 created ticket #10655: Errors (https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/10655)
[11:54] <scummvm-bugs> necros2k7 created ticket #10654: PSP errors (https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/10654)
[11:55] <scummvm-bugs> necros2k7 created ticket #10656: IOS resource leak? (https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/10656)
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[12:44] <mataniko> I just gotta rant that phpbb has the worst markup/css i've ever seen
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[12:45] <mataniko> 999px padding + -995px margin
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[15:29] <Sedictious_> Hey guys! I really want to contribute to this project. I thought about fixing the (imo) frustrating path selection, by letting users directly edit the game directory path. Is this something you would be interested in seeing?
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[15:49] <criezy> Hi Sedictious_
[15:50] <criezy> Do you mean allowing direct editing of the path in the dialog to select a game path after clicking on Add Game?
[15:51] <criezy> I am not too familiar with that one as on macOS we use the native file selector instead, but I think I remember others complaining about this path selection being frustrating.
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[15:59] <Sedictious_> Yep that is exactly what I meant.
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[17:20] <mataniko> i think on windows it probably makes sense to use the native file selector too
[17:20] <mataniko> but on other platforms, writing the path is not ideal
[17:20] <mataniko> and potentially dangerous
[17:29] <Sedictious_> I mainly had Windows in mind but you are probably right.
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[17:41] <mataniko> It's probably better to go back and see if there's a reason why the native file dialog isn't used in Windows
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[18:02] <SupSuper> the windows folder picker sucks. you could use the windows file picker but it's kinda hacky to apply it to folders
[18:14] <mataniko> yeah the folder picker also doesn't let you type in a path
[18:15] <dreammaster> Well, some Windows apps, like Handbrake, use a 'select folder' variant of the dialog. And I'm inclined to think that it's not custom for Handbrake, but provided by Windows
[18:16] <mataniko> I don't think the file picker needs a hacky solution, it should be a matter of setting acceptFiles to flase
[18:16] <dreammaster> Though saying that, I don't havce any real problems with the current built-in dialog ScummVM has
[18:16] <mataniko> or ValidateNames
[18:19] <mataniko> hmm looking further it does seem a little hacky to do folder only selection in the FileDialog
[18:19] <mataniko> can always just improve the existing dialog to have an editable path
[18:21] <SupSuper> well IFileDialog is a vista+ only thing, before that you would have to mess around with the controls
[18:21] <SupSuper> but yes everyone just uses a customized file picker because the folder picker sucks :p dunno how "standard" it is
[18:22] <SupSuper> you could reverse one of these back into its win32 calls: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31059/how-do-you-configure-an-openfiledialog-to-select-folders
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[18:26] <GitHub62> [scummvm] whiterandrek pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/fNX6H
[18:26] <GitHub62> scummvm/master 62c250a Andrei Prykhodko: COMMON: added method to convert text from various code pages to Unicode
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[19:00] <GitHub68> [scummvm] whiterandrek pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/fNXPt
[19:00] <GitHub68> scummvm/master 9948b24 Andrei Prykhodko: COMMON: named CodePage enum
[19:00] <GitHub68> scummvm/master ca54a72 Andrei Prykhodko: COMMON: made code pages conversion arrays static and constant
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[19:12] <GitHub104> scummvm/master c255de1 Andrei Prykhodko: PINK: implemented text drawing in ActionText for English version
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[19:51] <GitHub129> [scummvm] whiterandrek pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/fNX1u
[19:51] <GitHub129> scummvm/master 47130ec Andrei Prykhodko: COMMON: changed code page constant name from ascii to utf8
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[20:08] <GitHub189> [scummvm] whiterandrek pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/fNXM2
[20:08] <GitHub189> scummvm/master bb995bc Andrei Prykhodko: GRAPHICS: MACGUI: fixed mem leak in MacText
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[22:15] <SupSuper> dreammaster: looks like the "select folder" picker is native as of vista
[22:15] <SupSuper> the more you know
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[22:20] <dreammaster> Thanks; good to have it confirmed
[22:23] <SupSuper> i don't know what scummvm win32 support is like, but i'm all for more native pickers. the default one is workable, but anyone that accumulates old games tends to develop a hierarchy that's easier to type out than browse through ;)
[22:30] <Sedictious_> I already started digging in the source and probably start working on it soon. Would a native picker be preferable to simply offering the option to type in the path?
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[22:33] <dreammaster> Good question. I'm actually on the fence, in that I like the current folder dialog. If you're the one going to be doing the development, it really comes down to which you prefer to implement.
[22:34] <dreammaster> Though keeping in mind that if you add the native dialog, unless theres's consensus to switch over it, it might end up as a compilation option disabled by default. Having a typeahead in the existing dialog would be useful for all systems, so it's probably got more value
[22:34] <Deledrius> My main problem with the current non-native picker on Windows is that I can't access network shares unless I have them assigned to a drive letter.
[22:35] <dreammaster> Hmmm.. that's true. I don't have a local network at home, so I haven't had that problem
[22:35] <Deledrius> This is not a problem in OSX, since the native picker navigates that fine. On Windows, there's no way to get to the network shares without manually editing the scummvm.ini to a UNC path (which works fine as long as it's on it and you don't navigate back to a local drive)
[22:36] <Deledrius> And all my game data is on a network computer, so this has been a long-standing minor annoyance (but I've just worked around it)
[22:36] <SupSuper> a new textfield is probably simpler than obtaining consensus on the windows situation, although resolving paths might be harder than a picker
[22:36] <Deledrius> Just the ability to manually enter a path would mitigate it.
[22:37] <Deledrius> And probably easier than trying to support the changing Win API across the different versions that ScummVM supports.
[22:37] <SupSuper> Deledrius: that reminds me, is there a gui option to edit the default game path without digging into the ini? that would also mitigate it somewhat
[22:38] <Deledrius> Not that I know of.
[22:39] <Deledrius> The last path is only in the ini, I think? At least I don't see it.
[22:39] <Deledrius> And all the places that set paths use the internal-picker on Windows anyway, so they don't help.
[22:39] <SupSuper> true. i might mess around with the picker idea myself anyways, just to have a working comparison. Sedictious_ patch will still be useful for other systems (and old windows)
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[23:15] <mataniko> I think you can start by just changing the path field to be typable
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