ScummVM IRC Log - 02 Jan 2017

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[01:05] <snover> https://zetafleet.com/i/5869a8352a846.jpg well this unexpectedly became possible tonight.
[01:07] <snover> https://zetafleet.com/i/5869a86e72ccf.jpg its got a ways to go.
[01:11] <snover> cursor is confused a lot, missing transition videos, bla bla.
[01:14] <tsoliman> DrMcCoy: I have a GOB question - In 805a46b2 you introduced Urban Runner with an md5 that's not labeled - I am assuming this is your copy of it. If so do you have it handy?
[01:18] <tsoliman> I am trying to determine if this is in fact a UK release of the game - or if I am about to buy a game that's not in the detection tables at all - I'm hoping it is the latter because the unmarked one in the detection table is explicitly marked US
[01:40] <snover> ah. excellent. lighthouse stores audio resources in ressci, no resource.sfx. the resource manager is not going to be happy with this.
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[01:45] <DrMcCoy> tsoliman: The mdo.def file on the first CD, from which the game reads its configuration, says "LANG:LG_US"
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[01:45] <tsoliman> DrMcCoy: thanks!
[01:46] <tsoliman> snover: My favorite game!
[01:46] <snover> tsoliman: i guess 2017 is your year!
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[03:18] <jebacja> sss
[03:18] <jebacja> ddd
[03:18] <jebacja> hi
[03:19] <jebacja> taak im
[03:19] <jebacja> hi
[03:20] <jebacja> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk4WUWwIshE
[03:20] <jebacja> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk4WUWwIshE
[03:23] <jebacja> sssijcie
[03:24] <jebacja> any from PL ?
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[03:30] <wladca_robakow> s
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[04:18] <snover> now i just need to figure out what is going on with stereo mixing&tomorrow&
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[08:09] <Strangerke|work> hi guys
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[08:32] <TMM> hi Strangerke|work
[08:32] <Strangerke|work> hi TMM
[08:34] <TMM> Strangerke|work, happy new year! :D
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[08:36] <Strangerke|work> TMM: thanks, to you too :)
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[11:57] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
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[15:15] Action: wjp looks at a huge stack of github notification mails
[15:20] <_sev|work> wjp: good luck
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[15:51] <TMM> wjp, fun for the whole family!
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[16:38] <snover> wjp: sorry, i dumped a couple reviews on you. if you can think of anyone else that would be well-suited to review them, let me know and i can put them on the requested reviewers list.
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[17:12] <wjp> snover: don't worry, that was only a very small part of the stack :-)
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[17:26] <snover> wjp: ive just managed to get this to happen now, too. https://zetafleet.com/files/lh-demo.mov
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[17:29] <snover> now if i can just fix these bad script offsets, it might actually go past the title screen.
[17:42] <wjp> nice :-)
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[17:45] <snover> seems to be some trouble with the name selector
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[17:46] <tsoliman> snover: I should clarify .. Phantasmagoria 2 isn't my favorite game .. GK2 is .. your screenshot got translated to GK2 in my sleep deprived brain (25th hour without sleep)
[17:47] <snover> tsoliman: well even better news, then :P
[17:47] <tsoliman> yay?
[17:47] <tsoliman> seriously?
[17:47] <tsoliman> \o/
[17:48] <snover> someone reported that the game gets stuck in the grotto of chapter 6, but they did get all the way to that point
[17:48] <snover> and i dont know how reliable that report is, i asked for a savegame and reproduction steps and they didnt respond with what i asked for
[17:48] <tsoliman> I haven't played it since the first 2 times in the 90s
[17:49] <snover> i got sidetracked because for a while the new bounds-checking code i have been working on was crashing when saving the game, but thats fixed now so i suppose i should go run through it
[17:49] <tsoliman> do you want me to submit bugs for it?
[17:50] <tsoliman> or just ping you directly
[17:50] <snover> that would be wonderful. can you compile and test from my working branch instead of master?
[17:50] <tsoliman> sure what branch is it
[17:50] <snover> right here https://github.com/csnover/scummvm/tree/working
[17:50] <tsoliman> literally "working" :D
[17:50] <snover> yeah :)
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[17:55] <tsoliman> fwiw I am on a mac with sdl2 .. `../configure --disable-all-engines --enable-engines=sci32` .. should be good-enough for testing
[17:55] <snover> yeah. i add --disable-cloud --disable-sdlnet --disable-libcurl too
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[17:55] <tsoliman> I have both GOG and Steam of GK2 .. any preferences?
[17:56] <tsoliman> oops
[17:56] <tsoliman> that's GK1
[17:56] <tsoliman> GK2 is from the original 6CDs
[17:56] <tsoliman> (sorry still waking up after a long sleep)
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[17:57] <snover> you just need to follow the instructions at http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Datafiles#All_SCI32_.28SCI2.2F3.29_games
[17:57] <snover> for GK2
[18:00] <tsoliman> I did a slight variation .. I used the windows "installer" tool to create a DVD from the 6 CDs .. I assume that's ok
[18:00] <snover> that should be ok
[18:01] <tsoliman> does any OS actually "replace" directories when you copy a directory and it already exists?
[18:01] <tsoliman> I assumed they get merged when you select "overwrite"
[18:01] <snover> macos :\
[18:01] <snover> you have to hold down &option, i think?
[18:01] <tsoliman> ah yes .. the secret macos key
[18:02] <tsoliman> I am fairly new to macos .. only used it for 3 years or so but heavily used it for less than a year
[18:03] <snover> http://www.howtogeek.com/198043/how-to-merge-folders-on-mac-os-x-without-losing-all-your-files-seriously/ finder is the most consistently terrible software on the planet, except maybe for spotify
[18:05] <blitter> i see your finder and raise you an iTunes :P
[18:07] <somaen> iTunes used to be quite good
[18:07] <somaen> Back when the version number was a single digit, and the iPod only supported firewire
[18:09] <somaen> As for Finder's "replace entire folder" behaviour, to be fair, it DOES warn you that that is exactly what it's going to do (although from my own experience the understanding of "replace" here is destroyed by years of being trained towards the behaviour in Windows). That's about the best excuse I can come up with for the behaviour.
[18:11] <somaen> The thing is though, that the Finder is at some points quite awesome (column view is hands down the best way I know of to navigate folders), spring loaded folders is also great, but then you suddenly realize that you can't do stuff such as "cut'n-paste" folders (IIRC they added that in one of the very latest versions).
[18:12] <somaen> But yes, that very same assumption that tsoliman had, actually cost me a folder or two before I learned. (Likewise, the original Disk Utility in OS X 10.5, that insisted upon formatting ALL partitions on a drive when you commit any partition table changes, including the ones that you DIDN'T CHANGE!.
[18:12] <somaen> )
[18:15] <tsoliman> I don't like finder but I am coming from Windows and Linux (KDE), the idea of enter=rename blows my mind (you have to press option-down or something to go in)
[18:15] <snover> +o
[18:15] <tsoliman> what's the shortcut to type the command symbol?
[18:16] <snover> +down does the same thing i guess
[18:16] <snover> i just use text replacement
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[18:16] <tsoliman> text replacement drove me nuts on replacing ' and --
[18:17] <tsoliman> so I did some "defaults" magic to turn it off
[18:17] <snover> well, that is smart quotes substitutions, not text replacement substitutions :)
[18:17] <snover> text replacement is one of the few good features of macos :) but i digress heavily off topic.
[18:17] <tsoliman> :D
[18:24] <somaen> Oh, yes, disable the auto-correct crap
[18:24] <somaen> First thing I do
[18:28] <tsoliman> why is GK2 trying to open /dev/sequences when I said my default midi is fluidsynth
[18:29] <snover> i couldnt tell you as it does not use midi at all
[18:29] <tsoliman> WARNING: SCUMMVM_MIDI environment variable not set, using /dev/sequencer!
[18:30] <tsoliman> hmm .. it doesn't happen in master .. but then again this is a different tree so I might have messed up something
[18:31] <snover> it happens when the game starts?
[18:31] <tsoliman> yeah just before the sierra logo
[18:32] <tsoliman> first thing is the WIP warning popup .. then a 2 second wait (assuming fluidsynth loading) .. then the logo fades in and that message pops up in the console
[18:34] <tsoliman> I think it is fluidsynth not loading .. because in master I get a bunch of spam messages from fluidsynth on exit .. but not in this other branch
[18:36] <snover> hm
[18:37] <tsoliman> it doesn't happen in PQ4
[18:37] <tsoliman> and forcing fluidsynth in things like SQ5 works as well
[18:37] <snover> syncing subtitle / text and speech settings from the in-game settings might be causing global audio settings to get overridden
[18:38] <tsoliman> right but they are unchecked
[18:38] <snover> audio settings sync is not quite working right at the moment
[18:41] <tsoliman> hmm .. here's a crash that happened .. I decided to try out the "use FB01" engine option and it crashes with "FB-01 patch file not found, attempting to load sound bank from IMF.DRV" "Failed to open IMF.DRV"
[18:42] <snover> that option should not exist for& probably any sci32 game
[18:43] <snover> certainly the ones that dont actually use midi
[18:44] <tsoliman> yep
[18:44] <tsoliman> it is a non-issue - just thought I'd mention it
[18:45] <snover> i figured i would do housekeeping of the options once things were going to go from unstable to testing
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[19:59] <waltervn> tsoliman: out of curiosity, do you actually have an FB-01?
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[20:06] <tsoliman> waltervn: no I was just "pushing all the buttons" to debug
[20:07] <tsoliman> I only have an MT32 (old) as an external synth
[20:07] <tsoliman> I am assuming the FB-01 is an external synth?
[20:07] <waltervn> right
[20:08] <tsoliman> I wanted to get an SC55 at one point after LordHoto said it was awesome
[20:09] <tsoliman> But I could find any for less than 100USD
[20:09] <tsoliman> *not
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[20:10] <waltervn> tsoliman: I paid 50 euro for my SC-55, but that was back in 2010
[20:12] <tsoliman> Yeah I paid 60 and 40 USD for the 2 MT32s. The 60 one was a dud. The 40 lasted forever. You have to constantly look I guess.
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[20:13] <tsoliman> It was fun to have a broken one so I could open it up. I ended up giving it away to an EE friend who ended up modding it
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[20:16] <waltervn> I love MIDI modules... I have the Yahama FB-01, Roland MT-32, SC-55 and D-110. I'm still looking for a Casio CSM-1 (though I have a compatible keyboard)
[20:18] <blitter> one of these i'd probably like an sc-55 or derivative
[20:19] <blitter> and a korg m1 :D
[20:19] <blitter> i do have a dx7 and mt32 though. getting there :)
[20:20] <blitter> i think i might need a new midi interface though. the mt32 will crash when i play prince of persia :(
[20:20] <blitter> (through dosbox)
[20:33] <tsoliman> What OS are you on blitter? What hardware are you plugging the midi cable into?
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[21:19] <blitter> tsoliman: win10, midi cable goes into my dx7, then thru cable to the in of the mt32
[21:20] <blitter> this is my interface http://www.creative.com/emu/products/product.aspx?pid=19089
[21:21] <blitter> but as i recall i ran the interface directly to the mt32 and got the same result :(
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[21:46] <joostp> does anyone want a steam code for any of the games from the humble sierra bundle? apparently I have all the games on steam already, something that I only realized after purchasing the bundle...
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[21:58] <snover> could someone with GK2 check for the existence of 15104.vmd, 15558.vmd, and 15120.vmd?
[21:58] <snover> somehow, my GM release doesnt seem to have these files
[21:58] <snover> not surprising since apparently 80% of the VMDs themselves were broken in the GM release&
[22:00] <snover> other than that, the game is completable
[22:01] <Strangerke> wow, nice :)
[22:01] <Strangerke> congratz :)
[22:03] <tsoliman> what is GM?
[22:03] <snover> the gold master
[22:03] <snover> i guess i should just say the first us release
[22:04] <criezy> Great. Maybe I should finally download my GoG version.
[22:04] <tsoliman> my 6 CD version doesnt have them, snover
[22:04] <snover> maybe i should take one of those steam codes so i can get a non-broken version of GK2&
[22:05] <tsoliman> criezy: so you're gonna check the GOG one.. ok I won't then
[22:05] <criezy> I'm downloading it for now. It's big!
[22:06] <tsoliman> I'll download the Steam copy in the meantime
[22:07] <tsoliman> snover: what do you mean broken?
[22:07] <tsoliman> I remember finishing the game as a kid and I don't remember freezes or anything
[22:07] <snover> tsoliman: i mean a bunch of the VMDs have broken audio sync, and apparently some are missing for the final chase.
[22:08] <tsoliman> the missing ones are which ones? I mean which scene etc?
[22:09] <snover> room transition videos for the final chase, with the numbers i have given above (plus more)
[22:09] <tsoliman> oh so totally "known shippable" sort of bugs
[22:11] <tsoliman> the steam one is like a 2.5gb download that expands into 3+
[22:17] <tsoliman> hmm .. the steam version doesn't have 15104
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[22:17] <criezy> The biggest number I can see in the GoG version is 10100.VMD. So the 3 files you list are not present.
[22:18] <snover> its also possible that there is a bug in the VM or game scripts that causes the file numbers to be wrong
[22:18] <tsoliman> snover: there are only 2 5-digit vmds in the steam version which are 10010 and 10100
[22:18] <snover> ok. let me go watch 10000 VMDs to see if I can find what they are *supposed* to be
[22:21] <tsoliman> 10010.VMD is credits
[22:22] <snover> they arent there. ok. so.
[22:22] <snover> next option;
[22:22] <tsoliman> 10100.VMD is the Gabriel and Grace on a bridge (I think the end scene)
[22:22] <tsoliman> it's been so long :)
[22:25] <snover> lets see if maybe there are files hiding in the volume resource bundle.
[22:26] <snover> Where Are The Endgame VMDs?: A Gabriel Knight Mystery
[22:29] <snover> happy to report the last room with messed-up-looking palette is messed-up-looking in SSCI too
[22:29] <tsoliman> those 2 files were on my CD1
[22:35] <snover> mystery solved
[22:36] <snover> debug> resource_info vmd 15104
[22:36] <snover> Resource size: 101671
[22:36] <snover> Resource location: RESSCI.001
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[22:54] <snover> wahoo. bug crushinated.
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[23:02] <GitHub149> [scummvm] csnover pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMmu4
[23:02] <GitHub149> scummvm/master 3be2025 Colin Snover: SCI32: Remove invalid GUIO options from GK2
[23:02] <GitHub149> scummvm/master a91b432 Colin Snover: SCI32: Load VMDs from resource bundles...
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[23:03] <GitHub19> [scummvm] criezy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMmuB
[23:03] <GitHub19> scummvm/master 3f00d6b Ben Castricum: I18N: Update translation (Dutch)...
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[23:07] <snover> now i wonder if any games put robots in their resource bundles too
[23:24] <snover> wjp: maybe i talked about this before, but did you have any feeling about adding a patchwelcome resolution status for things that are so low-priority they are unlikely to ever be fixed unless someone outside the project cares enough to write a patch?
[23:24] <snover> its a little bit nicer than wontfix, and a little bit nicer than tickets sitting open for 10 years
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