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[10:55] D0SFreak (~D0SFreak@71-23-3-153.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) joined #scummvm. [11:18] yehaT (yehaT@cs177076.pp.htv.fi) joined #scummvm. [11:18] D0SFreak (~D0SFreak@71-23-3-153.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:26] salty-horse (~ori@bzq-79-177-41-153.red.bezeqint.net) joined #scummvm. [11:26] #scummvm: mode change '+o salty-horse' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:33] Schnaks (~Schnaks@217.88.187.149) left irc: Quit: Schnaks [11:38] clang has a new annoying warning. anyone mind if I disable it? "warning: default label in switch which covers all enumeration values [-Wcovered-switch-default]" -- or should I remove the 'default's from the code? I assume it's good to have it there when future enum values are added (and although clang warns about those too, not everyone uses clang) [11:39] Solution: Everybody should use clang :P [11:40] well that is also ignoring the "enum does not in fact cover all possible input values, because everyone hates you" case [11:40] salty-horse: I think it's better not to have any default values, so people are aware that if they add new enum values they might need to take care of additional stuff [11:41] salty-horse: (i.e. no default values, if you cover all cases anyway) [11:41] so I imagine the decision of what is best is perhaps specific to each case [11:43] the least I could do is remove them from my code :) [11:43] and pastebin anything else? [11:43] D0SFreak (~D0SFreak@72.1.88.158) joined #scummvm. [11:44] sec [11:44] dreammaster (~paulfgilb@C-59-101-229-34.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving for the day [11:44] anyway need to relocate [11:44] LordHoto (~loom@unaffiliated/lordhoto) left irc: Quit: brb [11:46] maybe it would be nice to run a clang build on buildbot? [11:50] http://pastebin.com/3KBct8yb [11:50] fuzzie, I prefer clang nowadays :) [11:50] well, clang is still missing basic features for me [11:50] go on :) [11:50] maybe not for scummvm though [11:51] but e.g. it has no zero-cost exceptions on ARM! which is crazy [11:51] C++ features? [11:51] I don't think it has been declared fully operational on ARM [11:51] (to be fair that is llvm issue, not clang-specific) [11:52] well, the official line is that x86/x64/ARM are supported :) [11:54] http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 [11:54] yes, I have a list'o'bugs to track [11:55] outside soviet russia, bugs have a list of you [11:55] everything in clang pre-codegen is really awesome thoguh [11:56] I haven't fiddled with it besides compiling things end-to-end :) [11:56] ah, well [11:56] suffice it to say that the thing I like most about llvm/clang is how readable the code is.. :-) [11:57] code completion etc using libclang is something that looks like it has a very happy future too [11:58] I'm waiting for the vim plugins to mature [12:01] debian stable only has clang < 3 [12:01] dunno how helpful that would be on buildbot [12:02] I compile it myself [12:02] cyco (~cyco@46.115.16.175) joined #scummvm. [12:02] they also recommend that -- google compiles the mac release of chrome with trunk clang [12:03] yeah, but who maintains the toolchain on buildbot then? [12:03] dhewg, good question :) [12:03] and there're already +5 on my list :P [12:04] how often do you need to maintain them? [12:05] case dependant [12:05] clang trunk sounds like more maintaining work than others though [12:07] i think quite a number of those default label warnings are with values that come with not-necessarily-in-range values [12:07] dhewg, I agree it's not feasible [12:07] fuzzie, can you give a specific example? [12:07] sure, there's loads [12:07] LordHoto (~loom@unaffiliated/lordhoto) joined #scummvm. [12:07] #scummvm: mode change '+o LordHoto' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:07] for example colorType in png.cpp which is the result of readByte() [12:08] or the ones in hugo/schedule.cpp which also come from data [12:09] LordHoto_ (~loom@unaffiliated/lordhoto) joined #scummvm. [12:09] #scummvm: mode change '+o LordHoto_' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:09] LordHoto (~loom@unaffiliated/lordhoto) left irc: Disconnected by services [12:09] Nick change: LordHoto_ -> LordHoto [12:09] I imagine pretty much anything which has a default case consisting of an error("argh, what is this, I don't even"); is like that [12:13] maintining clang trunk on buildbot will be even more fun, seeing that we would have to compile yet more stuff on buildbot ;-) [12:13] yup. what I'm wondering is if it's worth it to leave it in -- I think it is, if not everyone uses clang that warns about missing switch "coverage" [12:14] LordHoto, you can compile once a month or something -- it doesn't have to be a buildbot task [12:14] salty-horse: it would still take a while... [12:15] so is it legal C++ to use enums like this? [12:15] fuzzie, I'm sorry. like what? [12:15] I was wondering about that too [12:16] salty-horse: well, the clang warning is nonsense for our code [12:16] in the case of PNG it might make sense to do the colorType in valid range check inside readHeaderChunk [12:16] yes, in a lot of the cases I looked at, you can do the type-in-range checking somewhere more sensible [12:17] in fact I don't think it's too nice to cast random values into enums, when you don't know whether they actually fit ;-) [12:17] yes [12:17] and I wonder if clang is simply going to optimise away the default cases here.. [12:17] LordHoto, I think C++11 has a "typed enum" for that [12:18] gcc doesn't do that unless you pass -fstrict-enums [12:18] salty-horse: I think the typed enum is more that you actually have some saying in what type it is ;-) [12:19] unlike the so lovely default enum, which might be signed or unsigned depending on your implementation etc. ;-) [12:19] although oh boy, that is new in 4.6 [12:19] fuzzie: I think it should be easy to spot whether clang optimized it out [12:19] http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43680 <- "G++ is too aggressive in optimizing away bounds checking with enums" + reference to the standard [12:19] just compile png.cpp and use objdump and check whether it's still in where [12:20] so, does anyone mind if I silence the clang warning? 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The value is unchanged if it is in the range of enumeration values of the enumeration type; otherwise the resulting enumeration value is unspecified." certainly is nothing to rely on ;-) [12:28] http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/cwg_defects.html#1094 says it might be in the range of the enumeration type, but certainly it's still not so nice from a code point of view imho [12:38] cyco (~cyco@46.115.16.115) joined #scummvm. [12:41] cyco (~cyco@46.115.16.115) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:53] LunaVorax (~LunaVorax@cau33-2-82-227-183-10.fbx.proxad.net) joined #scummvm. [12:57] LordHoto (~loom@unaffiliated/lordhoto) left irc: Quit: bbl [12:58] Kirben (kirben@c220-239-194-17.brasd3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [12:59] TAS_2012v (~TAS_2012x@81-235-239-40-no92.business.telia.com) joined #scummvm. 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[19:05] It looks like this was forgotten in a6ec4f70da120a1ce406ed4dd9e149e081542f59. - http://git.io/ZacYUQ [19:19] cyco (~cyco@46.115.19.29) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:29] _sev (~sev@109.87.142.103) joined #scummvm. [19:29] _sev (~sev@109.87.142.103) left irc: Changing host [19:29] _sev (~sev@scummvm/undead/sev) joined #scummvm. [19:29] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:30] <_sev> release announcement time [19:30] cyco (~cyco@46.115.19.29) joined #scummvm. [19:30] _sev (~sev@scummvm/undead/sev) left irc: Client Quit [19:31] _sev (~sev@109.87.142.103) joined #scummvm. [19:31] _sev (~sev@109.87.142.103) left irc: Changing host [19:31] _sev (~sev@scummvm/undead/sev) joined #scummvm. [19:31] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:31] \o/ [19:31] giucam (~giulio@adsl-ull-143-206.49-151.net24.it) joined #scummvm. [19:32] Johannes Schickel master * ra231f9d / (6 files): AGOS: Rename ArchiveMan's open to createReadStreamForMember to match our Archive API. - http://git.io/7Ha-xg [19:32] Johannes Schickel master * r827cdbd / (engines/agos/agos.h engines/agos/res.cpp): [19:32] AGOS: Make ArchiveMan a proper sub-type of SearchSet. [19:32] Now all of the Archive API is implemented to avoid possibly inconsistent [19:32] behavior when an ArchiveMan object is accessed via a class type higher in the [19:32] class hierachy. - http://git.io/QdTXIQ [19:33] <_sev> any thoughts on the release name? [19:34] <_sev> "BASS Enhanced" [19:39] {V} (~V@174-76-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:39] wouldn't that easily get confusing, since people thing we support the extended releases of BASS for the iPhone now? [19:39] might think* [19:46] Raziel^ (~Raziel@p5B080759.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #scummvm. [19:46] #scummvm: mode change '+v Raziel^' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:47] hi there [19:47] hey Raziel^ [19:47] does anyone else get a LINKER error on base/plugins.cpp? [19:47] yo LordHoto :-) [19:48] buildbot seems fine at the moment [19:48] what do you see? [19:48] stupid google privacy policy crap... [19:49] wjp: undefined reference to `g_SCUMM_getObject()' [19:49] Raziel^: tried fix ? [19:49] wjp and undefined reference to `g_SCUMM_type' two times [19:49] aquadran: pardon? [19:49] you didn't by chance hack your config.mk file or anything after running configure? [19:50] LordHoto: nope, did a pull of of the latest files and build [19:50] tried a clean rebuild (i.e. after make distclean) too? [19:50] Raziel^: join residual channel [19:50] aquadran: residual seems dead, maybe residualvm channel? [19:50] LordHoto: doing right now [19:50] good ;-) [19:51] I think this may mean engines/scumm/detection.cpp and base/plugins.cpp don't agree about the plugin status for the scumm engine [19:51] i.e., skewed build [19:52] wjp: can i check for that after configure? [19:52] Johannes Schickel master * rab2b020 / NEWS : DOCS: Add missing dot in NEWS file. - http://git.io/-oSUeg [19:53] if something is confused? not easily; just do a clean build [19:53] kk [19:53] if you mean how the scumm engine is configured, see config.mk [19:55] dtcrshr (~datacrush@unaffiliated/datacrusher) left irc: Quit: falo negada [19:56] <_sev> DrMcCoy: what is your idea for the release slogan? [19:57] "Bleurgh Release" [19:57] ;) [19:57] <_sev> "Kkwnuq Release" looks cooler [19:58] "Freunde der Sonne" Release :-) [19:59] "10th Anniversary: Afterparty!" [20:00] hangover? [20:00] nah we fixed all the hangover issues! [20:00] aspirine release :) [20:00] except for the ones we discovered after 1.4.1 was packaged :-) [20:00] LordHoto: I thought you were just in a continuous hangover :P [20:05] <_sev> "James' Time" [20:15] <_sev> any more thoughts? [20:17] Not really :/ [20:17] Sorry I'm here [20:17] _sev: "moo" release? ;P [20:17] Subwoofer Release [20:17] BASS! [20:17] he he [20:18] <_sev> Subwoofer Release sounds nice [20:18] Has music and BASS tied into one which is quite handy [20:23] SylvainTV (~SylvainTV@ALille-252-1-26-114.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #scummvm. [20:23] #scummvm: mode change '+o SylvainTV' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:37] giucam (~giulio@adsl-ull-143-206.49-151.net24.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:44] Kaidane (~Kaidane@adsl-065-005-218-152.sip.cae.bellsouth.net) joined #scummvm. [20:49] D0SFreak (~D0SFreak@72.1.88.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:57] <_sev> fuzzie: here? [20:57] <_sev> fuzzie: any ETA for android build? 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    • used [21:32] oh ignore me [21:32] my eyesight is going lol [21:32] Been a loooong day [21:32] maybe mention more binaries now have support for the faad thing? I forgot what that was for again... [21:33] and I also don't know how many binaries now actually have support compiled in [21:33] "The" ScummVM Team is pleased to announce a maintenance release for "the" 1.4.x series. [21:33] wjp: t7g iOS [21:33] <_sev> fot iOS t7g [21:33] salty_horse (~ori@bzq-79-177-41-153.red.bezeqint.net) joined #scummvm. [21:33] #scummvm: mode change '+o salty_horse' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [21:33] <_sev> I don't really know too [21:33] <_sev> missed that completely [21:33] that QfG1 thing was a crash, not a glitch [21:34] (during a graphics effects) [21:34] Line 13: Slight "graphical" improvement ... Does that read better? [21:35] <_sev> wjp: fixed [21:35] <_sev> James|GlideM: fixed [21:37] _sev: faf29be709bf46f59e26ebd65bcde9cf scummvm-1.4.1-android.zip [21:37] salty-horse (~ori@bzq-79-177-41-153.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:37] <_sev> fuzzie: cool, thanks [21:37] <_sev> new paste: http://pastebin.com/Wcy6rpnz [21:38] <_sev> fuzzie: don't see it uploaded to FRS yet [21:38] Line 12: Support for "the" [21:38] <_sev> fixed [21:38] _sev: hrm, it went to /home/frs/project/s/sc/scummvm/scummvm/1.4.1 ? [21:38] maybe we should explicitly mention: "This is a bugfix release based on 1.4.0. It does not yet include support for the new games announced the past few months." ? [21:39] More logical sound settings for SCI games <-- no start tag [21:39] <_sev> fuzzie: oh, perhaps it was because of caching. see it now [21:39] but I'm sure that could be integrated better with your first paragraph [21:39] _sev: great :) [21:40] <_sev> bgKa: good catch [21:41] The ScummVM Team is pleased to announce a maintenance release for 1.4.x series, that is designed to obilterate a few pasky bugs and add a musical new feature. ??? [21:41] *pesky [21:41] *add a new musical delight [21:41] and *obliterate :-) [21:41] <_sev> wjp: ugh, I meant to specify that with fords 'maintenance release' [21:41] <_sev> wjpfords=words [21:41] yes, I understand, but users might not [21:43] <_sev> wjp: The ScummVM Team is pleased to announce a maintenance release for 1.4.x series, which contains several bug fixes found since 1.4.0 [21:43] <_sev> doesn't sound well [21:44] ... detected since our previous version? [21:44] I still think we should explicitly say it does not yet include support for the new games announced the past few months. [21:44] <_sev> The ScummVM Team is pleased to announce a maintenance release for 1.4.x series. No warez, no Game Requests, read the FAQ! [21:44] ? [21:44] lol [21:44] <_sev> j/k [21:45] :) [21:45] ScummVM 1.4.1, Download links here [21:45] <_sev> what about [21:46] <_sev> The most notable changes in this release are (no new games supported since 1.4.0): [21:46] he he isn't that a bit ... hmmm.... much :) [21:46] wjp, can you record a video saying NO NEW GAMES!!! :) [21:47] bgKa (~bbouclet@vai69-5-88-183-207-181.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [21:47] The ScummVM Team is pleased to announce ScummVM 1.4.1, This is a maintenance release that fixes several bugs in 1.4.0. [21:47] You can always add at the end "No new games are included in this release" [21:48] *this [21:48] The ScummVM Team is pleased to announce ScummVM 1.4.1, a maintenance only release that fixes several bugs in 1.4.0. [21:48] <_sev> new paste: http://pastebin.com/gr4nUQZn [21:48] <_sev> James|GlideM: oh, that is better [21:48] "1.4.3" in the release note URL should probably be 1.4.1 [21:48] <_sev> ST: fixed [21:48] THanks Mataniko :) I just tweaked :) [21:48] sev: two subwoofers [21:48] http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/funny-dog-pictures-sub-woofers.jpg [21:49] <_sev> Mataniko: lol [21:49] do itttt [21:49] Mataniko: nice :) [21:50] _sev: Lands of Lore and QFG1 VGA should have the full titles [21:50] and Broken Sword 2 as well [21:51] for PSX version -> The Playstation version [21:51] PlayStation :) [21:51] ^ [21:51] i don't even care, i just love nitpicking [21:51] :) [21:51] I bet _sev wishes there weren't so many chefs at this point he he [21:52] a crash in quest for glory [21:52] Added more logical sound settings [21:52] <_sev> clone2727: why? [21:52] sorry, extra giddy today [21:52] _sev: We should use proper titles? [21:53] Additional logical sound settings... [21:53] :P [21:53] salty_horse (~ori@bzq-79-177-41-153.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:53] <_sev> clone2727: sigh [21:53] please keep them as they are [21:53] This news release will have more revisions than the actual software :) [21:53] those overly verbose titles are just illy [21:53] and silly too [21:54] wjp: I disagree highly [21:54] "illy elease" :-D [21:54] I suppose for SEO it would be handy to have full titles [21:54] anyway, bbl [21:54] clone2727 (~clone2727@198.151.130.154) left irc: Quit: bbl [21:55] please nobody mention we have short form titles in our about blurb on the webpage :-) [21:56] Well that's quite handy to save space ;) [21:56] <_sev> new paste: http://pastebin.com/JBLtr3PZ [21:58] for "the" PlayStation... [21:58] <_sev> James|GlideM: fixed [21:58] 15: Additional logical... [21:58] <_sev> wjp: how about now? [21:58] James|GlideM: I think it's "more logical" rather than "more options", though [21:59] <_sev> James|GlideM: no, that is 'more logical' [21:59] ok [21:59] I think we are there my friends! [21:59] Action: James|GlideM phew [21:59] <_sev> great [22:00] _sev: well, I prefer the previous version at http://pastebin.com/gr4nUQZn (minus things like missing articles)... [22:01] oh, question for native English speakers: does "Happy game playing!" at the end sound weird/non-idiomatic? [22:01] Action: wjp is unsure [22:01] Happy pointing and clicking then :) [22:02] Happy adventuring [22:02] <_sev> wjp: like this? http://pastebin.com/Jc6Gbmja [22:02] wjp: it's technically correct [22:02] Mataniko: I specifically asked about idiomatic [22:02] but it's sounds fragmented [22:02] no, it's not something i'd write [22:02] <_sev> Mataniko: how to fix it? [22:02] happy adventuring :) [22:03] <_sev> Mataniko: really? [22:03] ajax16384 (~User@ip248.net168.n37.ru) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/ [22:03] or even Enjoy playing [22:03] Or..... Enjoy [22:03] simple [22:03] <_sev> ok [22:03] <_sev> Enjoy [22:03] criezy (~criezy@host86-135-27-201.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined #scummvm. [22:03] #scummvm: mode change '+o criezy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [22:03] :) [22:04] It's jsut, is the game happy to be playing? [22:04] or a happy game is being played? [22:04] we'll never know :-) [22:04] Raziel^ (~Raziel@p5B080759.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Zzzz<-.->zzzZ [22:04] We have moved on, that is now the past ;) [22:04] IT CANNOT BE ERASED FROM MY MIND [22:04] but maybe we should add a debug level for the game's emotional state :-) [22:04] heh [22:04] Toonstruck has a smiley face character... maybe applies there :) [22:05] ScummVM has crashed, the SCI engine is feeling gloomy. Please report this to the ScummVM Team [22:05] sev * r56238 /web/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): WEB: Announce 1.4.1 [22:05] Based on compatibility wjp ? :) [22:05] you can utilize something like the medical pain scale chart [22:06] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SeRuQIJPL2g/TTrHtzVMhPI/AAAAAAAAABI/XeDuWe9egGE/s1600/pain.jpg [22:06] this is an actual medical tool [22:07] ny00123 (~ny00123@109.64.203.221) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:07] Topic changed on #scummvm by _sev!sev@scummvm/undead/sev: ScummVM 1.4.1 || http://www.scummvm.org/faq/ || No warez, no Game Requests, read the FAQ! || Channel logs: http://logs.scummvm.org [22:08] I love this, as a programmer im the same, I can write hundreds of lines of code easily, but then get stumped on a simple paragraph :) [22:09] oh, we could talk for _far_ longer about hundreds of lines of code [22:09] sev * r56239 /web/trunk/data/news/20120227.xml: WEB: Fix HTML [22:10] http://www.jameswoodcock.co.uk/2012/01/27/scummvm-version-1-4-1-released-my-beneath-a-steel-sky-enhanced-soundtrack-supported/ [22:11] Thierry Crozat master * rc5b5f88 / configure : (log message trimmed) [22:11] CONFIGURE: Fix compilation on 32 bits MacOS X [22:11] The issue was that it cannot find a 64 bits type because 'long int' is [22:11] 32 bits and compilation of the test program with 'long long' failed [22:11] due to the use of -pedantic flag (and 'long long' is not part of [22:11] ISO C++ 1998 standard). It nevertheless defined _UINT64 [22:11] which subsequently told systems headers to not redefine uint64 and [22:11] James: nice logo [22:11] Thanks :) [22:13] just got a mac, first thing im doing is installing windows on it [22:13] ny00123 (~ny00123@bzq-79-182-212-13.red.bezeqint.net) joined #scummvm. [22:13] There are Apple fanboys crying worldwide at that statement :) [22:13] But... I would do the same [22:14] i only got a mac because the hardware is awesome, and i want access to xcode [22:14] but the price is outrageous [22:14] Agreed - I quite fancy a MacBook Air, but the cost hmmm [22:15] the air are cheap here [22:15] well, not compared to same line of pcs [22:15] Treat me to one then please he he [22:15] i just got the 17" pro [22:15] so no [22:15] :) [22:15] thats 2 and a half airs [22:15] Gosh huge! [22:15] Not going for portable then :) [22:15] it's not that much bigger than the 15" [22:16] but 1920x1200 vs 1680x1050 [22:17] plus, it's a literal workstation, i can't fit another computer on my desk [22:17] :) [22:18] So why Windows still then? [22:18] 3 monitors take a lot of realestate heh [22:18] for some games i guess [22:18] I can imagine, I have two and they fill all my desk [22:18] 27" and a "22 [22:18] 20,30,20 [22:18] panoramic to the max [22:18] heh [22:18] You got an image of this setup? [22:18] yeah somewhere [22:20] wjpalenstijn * r56240 /web/trunk/data/news/20120227.xml: Fix list/title consistency [22:23] I've sent it to the email on your website [22:24] Nick change: Guest76271 -> ajf [22:24] OK thanks :) [22:25] Interesting use of the two extra monitors there :) [22:25] well their height and resolution match perfectly [22:25] even the bezels [22:26] So what resolution is the 30" [22:26] 2560x1600 [22:26] No wonder the Windows icons are so small :) [22:26] and the sides are 1200x1600 [22:26] Shame Windows doesn't scale nicely [22:27] i dunno, looks fine to me [22:27] Well very nice setup sir :) [22:28] thank you :) all i need now is a midi sequencer [22:29] There is always another purchase around the corner, you are a true techie he he [22:29] epeen +1 [22:29] :) [22:29] haha [22:30] I've been using Cakewalk for years, mainly because I keep getting versions for free from various hardware [22:38] Kirben (kirben@c220-239-194-17.brasd3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined #scummvm. [22:38] #scummvm: mode change '+o Kirben' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [22:40] squiddy (~squiddy@g224193025.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:41] D0SFreak (~D0SFreak@71-23-3-153.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Quit: If I'm not back in 5 minutes....just wait longer! [22:51] WooShell (woo@178-27-165-32-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Quit: svc.startd: The system is coming down. syncing file systems... done. [22:53] D0SFreak (~D0SFreak@71-23-3-153.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) joined #scummvm. [22:53] as someone noted on our facebook page: "BTW, the news item says *February* 27, 2012. ;)" [22:57] I'll fix that then [22:57] lol [22:58] lordhoto * r56241 /web/trunk/data/news/ (20120127.xml 20120227.xml): WEB: Fix date of 1.4.1 release. [22:59] We can see into the future! :) [23:02] James|GlideM (~James|Gli@cpc2-mapp11-2-0-cust447.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:02] why is there an untracted sopa dir in the htdocs dir? [23:05] see [md5]'s mail from earlier this month [23:05] (only a partial answer I know) [23:07] yeah, but I don't see why we do live testing in there... [23:13] vpelletier (~vincent@ALille-154-1-51-210.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Zzz [23:16] blackhand (~Adium@c-98-212-146-137.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #scummvm. [23:16] cyco (~cyco@46.115.19.29) left irc: Quit: cyco [23:16] Nick change: blackhand -> blackhand314159 [23:17] quick iOS question&is the lack of a binary distro in the app store a licensing/legal problem, a putting up with apple is bullshit problem, or a dev problem? [23:17] or alternatively a "we've not gotten around to it so just shutup and wait or do it yourself" problem [23:18] licensing/legal problem [23:18] could you elaborate at all on that? [23:19] the app store doesn't allow any apps which interpret scripting files that aren't included with the app [23:19] hmmm [23:19] so you can do an app store bundle of a game with a scummvm that only runs that game (such as the Beneath a Steel Sky: Remastered), but you're not allowed to provide one which to run other games. [23:19] which runs other games. [23:20] I know some guys in that department at apple&i very seriously doubt bothering them will make any difference, but I will pester them just to make them feel bad about it [23:20] <_sev> it's not a problem with particular staff but with the App Store EULA [23:20] i know they've relaxed the rules for some emulators before [23:22] blackhand314159: these usually get removed a couple of days later [23:22] they encourage piracy [23:22] ny00123 (~ny00123@bzq-79-182-212-13.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:23] not sure apple care about that bit, really [23:23] every emulator that came up [23:23] went down [23:23] idos, imame, iwahtever [23:23] they just don't want people sneaking in non-approved software by putting a 'runtime' in the app store (e.g. a Flash player) and then letting users download apps from non-app-store places [23:23] yeah, thats probably true, as odd as it sounds hearing myself say (er, type) this, it sort of makes me wish there was some way to drm these things [23:24] they let the c64 one through [23:24] and that includes Flash and developer tools and etc just as much as it includes anything like emulators [23:24] and they're fine with emulators if you only run bundled legal games, just like they're fine with ScummVM if it only runs bundled legal games.. [23:25] I wonder if you could make something with a place like good old games to sell the games through the store bundled with scummvm&.like each game was an add on through the store [23:26] thats a licensing impossibility with some of these publishers :) [23:26] i sort of figured the problems were with apple legal annoyance (not my first encounter there), thanks for the details [23:26] yeah, lawyers do a great job of fucking things up :) [23:26] someday they'll come around&ok, well maybe not&anyways thanks for the details and thanks for scummvm&now back to space quest [23:26] that kind of thing is probably most likely to work - for example, dotemu sell ScummVM+Gobliiins on iOS [23:27] blackhand314159 (Adium@c-98-212-146-137.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left #scummvm. [23:32] Nick change: tuxuser -> XeCrypt [23:35] D0SFreak (~D0SFreak@71-23-3-153.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:37] Dominus (~Dominus@84.119.86.3) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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