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[05:03] FreeTHX (~freethx@freethx.iutv.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:09] yay, the latest sam&max is out :D (i know the tell tale games releases are unrelated to scummvm, but this is the only channel i'm in that is even slightly interested in the genre of games >.> ) [05:11] kind of stinks that the extras DVD is only free if you bought straight from telltale, I got it on PSN >.> [05:44] Hkz (~Hkz@2001:470:c89a:0:1e4b:d6ff:feb8:2541) joined #scummvm. [05:44] #scummvm: mode change '+o Hkz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [06:03] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@kons-5f7114a2.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #scummvm. [06:03] #scummvm: mode change '+o m_kiewitz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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[12:24] Littleboy (~littleboy@c-76-24-3-227.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: [12:27] James|GlideM (~James|Gli@cpc1-mapp11-2-0-cust613.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:37] the subtleties of strict aliasing rules give me a headache [12:57] wjp: it's not that complicated. To quote the gcc manual: an object of one type is assumed never to reside at the same address as an object of a diferent type,unless the types are almost the same. For example, an unsigned int can alias an int, but not a void* or a double. [12:57] wjp: unions are an exception though [13:05] Lubomyr (~Miranda@194.44.255.175) joined #scummvm. [13:06] ohboi, those READ_ WRITE_ funcs are ugly [13:15] Littleboy (~littleboy@c-76-24-3-227.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #scummvm. [13:19] wjp: you committing or am i? [13:29] ah, sorry, I wasn't on irc for a while :-) [13:30] go for it :-) [13:31] I agree the basic idea behind the strict aliasing isn't that complicated. It gets annoying when casting between structs and non-structs [13:32] it seems that with two different Unaligned32 { uint32 val; } structs, gcc thinks they don't alias. But their val members do both alias with int*'s. So this aliassing thing would seem to be non-transitive. Which confuses me. [13:35] raorn (~raorn@altlinux/developer/raorn) left irc: Read error: No route to host [13:36] Lubomyr (~Miranda@194.44.255.175) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:39] Bluddy * r52480 /scummvm/trunk/common/endian.h: [13:39] COMMON: changed read/write endian function to use __may_alias__ attribute [13:39] This is a better solution for the gcc aliasing problem that happens when [13:39] aliasing a struct onto something else. What happens is that the compiler assumes [13:39] no aliasing can happen when -O2 and -O3 are activated, and a call to [13:39] READ_UINT32() followed by WRITE_UINT32() and another READ_UINT32() will be [13:39] optimized to return the original read value instead of re-reading. [13:42] and this fixes bs2/psp when removing -fno-strict-aliasing again? [13:42] dhewg: it does [13:43] i understand the problem, but that gcc4+NEEDS_ALIGNMENT code for those funcs is ugly. isnt there anything better we can use? [13:44] wjp: from gcc's docs, it seems like gcc takes no responsibility once strict-aliasing is enabled, if you take a pointer, cast it and dereference. [13:44] raorn (~raorn@altlinux/developer/raorn) joined #scummvm. [13:44] WilliamC (WilliamC@150.216.103.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:46] dhewg: i tried another way of doing it (recommended to me by a ncie guy from gcc) and it doesn't work. you can see it in my email. there seems to be no other way of producing the desired ASM code [13:46] clone2727 (~clone2727@nat14-resnet-ext.rutgers.edu) joined #scummvm. [13:46] #scummvm: mode change '+o clone2727' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [13:47] is your conversation with the gcc guy on a public mailing list, by the way? [13:47] but I still see no reason why having a single Unaligned struct outside of the two functions shouldn't work. As far as I can tell it abides by all the rules [13:48] wjp: it's a bug report on gcc bugzilla. number 45462 [13:48] (but I do definitely agree that using __may_alias__ is the safest solution) [13:49] Nevyn4 (jhgjfgl@81-232-50-119-no39.tbcn.telia.com) joined #scummvm. [13:49] wjp: you're not instantiating the struct, you're casting the pointer to the struct type, so why should it matter where it's defined? [13:49] there's no other way to produce good code for it? no gcc buildin or whatever? [13:50] it matters if you're casting a pointer to the same struct type twice, or to two different struct types [13:51] by the way, did this unaligned_uint32 thing cause crashes in gcc or in scummvm? [13:51] dhewg: not as far as i could tell. another guy on gcc suggested memcpy, since gcc is supposed to optimize memcpy (making it inline for small copies). but i checked and at least on psp it doesn't do it. [13:52] wjp: in scummvm [13:52] bus errors? [13:52] yes [13:53] Bluddy|work: I think gcc only optimized memcpy when it's properly declared as builtin and no "custom" memcpy is inserted somewhere [13:53] optimizes even [13:54] LordHoto: if you're referring to wrap-memcpy, i removed it for the test [13:54] Bluddy * r52481 /scummvm/trunk/ (backends/platform/psp/Makefile configure): [13:54] PSP: removed strict-aliasing [13:54] It's no longer needed after adding __may_alias__ flag in endian.h. [13:55] Bluddy|work: did you check for memcpy to be a builtin? [13:55] Bluddy|work: maybe your toolchain is setup not to have that [13:55] anyway I am not sure right now anymore [13:56] how is memcpy made builtin? [13:56] WilliamC (WilliamC@150.216.228.207) joined #scummvm. [13:56] peres (peres@unaffiliated/peres) left #scummvm ("Leaving"). [13:57] Bluddy|work: well either -fno-builtin is somehow default setup or thereÄs an memcpy without a __builtin_ [13:57] Bluddy|work: this has some info about what should be builtin by default: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gcc/Other-Builtins.html [14:26] mthreepwood * r52482 /scummvm/trunk/engines/mohawk/ (6 files): [14:26] MOHAWK: Implement xbookclick [14:26] It is now possible to trap Gehn in the trap book. Side note: Riven is now completable from the beginning provided you know the D'ni number system already (and the marble puzzle is just hacked to always work). [14:36] Mataniko2 (~chatzilla@75-144-151-233-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #scummvm. 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But since I override memcpy anyway with --wrap, maybe I can make my version __builtin_ [15:05] Bluddy|work: yeah I guess it's safer not to mess with it for all the functions out there :-) [15:08] James|GlideM (~James|Gli@cpc1-mapp11-2-0-cust613.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #scummvm. [15:08] #scummvm: mode change '+v James|GlideM' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:13] clone2727 (~clone2727@nat14-resnet-ext.rutgers.edu) left irc: Quit: bbl [15:14] question: where are the defines mentioned in endian.h from? For example, in one place we have __mips__ and in another _MIPS_ARCH_MIPS32R2. __psp__ is defined with lower case (ie. it isn't activated -- I'm going to change it). Are the other mips defines standard? [15:17] OK actually I see __mips__ is defined by the PSP's gcc so I guess it's standard [15:17] __psp__ is defined by pspsdk's psp-cpp [15:18] yeah, its part of the psp toolchain itself [15:18] ok thanks. [15:18] and also by devkitpro's psp-cpp [15:18] echo | gcc -E -dM -x c - | sort [15:19] excellent thanks for that [15:22] wow i sure learned a lot thanks to this bug [15:34] Zaarin (~jalla@ti511110a080-0245.bb.online.no) joined #scummvm. [15:52] Ceriand|desktop (~Ceriand@unaffiliated/ceriand) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:53] bushwakko (~bushwakko@34.0.92.62.static.cust.telenor.com) left irc: Quit: bushwakko [16:00] timofonic (~timofonic@unaffiliated/timofonic) joined #scummvm. [16:01] Hello [16:01] hi [16:01] How's all? I see quite good, new engines coming and GSoC being a success. Congratulations :) [16:02] And translation support, that's very good! [16:06] Ceriand|work (~Ceriand@unaffiliated/ceriand) joined #scummvm. [16:11] MetalSnake (~snake@188-194-164-207-dynip.superkabel.de) joined #scummvm. 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[20:46] (actually it's not quite that bad, but they do charge a lot more than if you just pay them in gbp) [20:47] ohhh [20:47] http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/08/telltale-games-times-back-to-the-future-project/1 [20:47] Thanks to USA Today, we now know the following: Marty McFly and Doc Brown (voiced by Christopher Lloyd) are in it; Bob Gale, the screenwriter for the three films, is working with Telltale on the plot; there are five episodes planned; and the DeLorean, Hill Valley, and 1985 will be in the games. [20:47] yay [20:47] actually it might have been that bad... i could imagine it being 20% higher than the official exchange rate, so with todays rates that would be close to 1.50 eur/gbp [20:47] m_kiewitz: yep, read that too :) [20:48] my creditcard company will take a little share, but its still much cheaper that way [20:48] yep [20:48] The odd thing is doing stuff GBP to EUR.. they screw us as well.. [20:48] Vaikungfu (UPP@c-98-208-24-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:49] back to the future trilogy in 34 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBAgxrRj69o :P [20:50] Vaikungfu (UPP@c-98-208-24-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #scummvm. [20:50] D0SFreak (~D0SFreak@72.1.88.158) left irc: Quit: If I'm not back in 5 minutes....just wait longer! [20:53] kreegee (~TheArchiv@46-127-78-220.dclient.hispeed.ch) joined #scummvm. [21:02] [md5] (~asd-@unaffiliated/md5/x-729473) joined #scummvm. [21:02] #scummvm: mode change '+o [md5]' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [21:04] lunavorax (~lunavorax@cau33-2-82-227-183-10.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:04] Ge0rG (georg@op-co.de) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:05] [vEX] (~vex@c-83-233-205-109.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Quit: http://niechift.com [21:06] m_kiewitz: :D [21:07] Ge0rG (georg@op-co.de) joined #scummvm. 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[22:43] it doesn't recognize my games correctly [22:43] just fiddling around at the moment [22:44] i got this strange trilogy dvd [22:44] <[md5]> are you talking about Myst or Riven? [22:44] riven [22:44] Ahem.. [22:44] when i choose the dvd root, it finds riven and myst on it [22:44] but both entries then start myst [22:45] Action: [md5] points an accusing finger at digitall [22:45] if i choose the myst2 folder, it adds riven, but can't fint the tsplit [22:45] <[md5]> er [22:45] <[md5]> don't add files straight from the DVD [22:45] kreegee : The Advanced Detector in ScummVM has issues when two games are in the same directory.. [22:45] i i choose the All folder (the other with a a_Data-file), it adds riven, but doesn't fine the extras.mhk [22:45] ok [22:45] <[md5]> put them in separate folders [22:45] Yep basically, copy the data and seperate them [22:47] ok [22:47] easier said than done [22:47] this dvd is a mess [22:52] Two secs.. [22:53] it's ok [22:54] just found the datafiles page in the wiki [22:55] Hkz (~Hkz@2001:470:c89a:0:1e4b:d6ff:feb8:2541) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:58] Ah.. was just going to refer you there. [22:58] spookypeanut (~spookypea@scummvm/undead/spookypeanut) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:59] Could not load stack tspit! [22:59] well [23:00] grep tells me that tspit is in the a_Data file [23:00] which is there [23:00] strange [23:04] Kerbox (~Kernox@ti0106a340-dhcp0223.bb.online.no) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:06] Kerbox (~Kernox@ti0106a340-dhcp0223.bb.online.no) joined #scummvm. [23:09] strangerke * r52485 /scummvm/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): HUGO: Fix labyrinth bug in Hugo 2 for Windows [23:13] !seen criezy [23:13] timofonic: criezy was last seen in #scummvm 1 day, 2 hours, 19 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: I was actually going to make the same remark ;) [23:13] strangerke * r52486 /scummvm/trunk/dists/engine-data/hugo.dat: HUGO: Updated Hugo.dat with the fix for labyrinth bug [23:17] kreegee : a_data.mhk , not a_Data [23:17] lets try that [23:17] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@kons-5f7114a2.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: bye [23:17] osx is case insensitive though [23:18] I doubt that is totally true as it has a Unix base.. but clone2727, the main Riven developer is the Mac Fiend... [23:18] actually per default hfs+ is only case preserving [23:18] well [23:18] Action: digitall summons clone2727 [23:18] oh, you said *in*sensitive [23:18] it preserves cases [23:19] but you can access files insensitive [23:19] i thought [23:22] well, renaming didn't change a thing [23:22] [md5] (~asd-@unaffiliated/md5/x-729473) left irc: Quit: nn [23:25] Hmm [23:26] Could you do a "ls -al" and "md5sum -b *" on the files? [23:26] and send the results to me via DCC? [23:27] kreegee: Are you OK with that? [23:29] one sec [23:29] on the files i extracted or on the hole dvd? [23:29] *whole [23:30] i added some debug stuff to the changeStackTo-function, and apparently it loads a_Data.mhk [23:33] One thing.. You may need to run the installer to get extras.mhk [23:33] i got the extras.mhk [23:33] http://kreegee.pastebin.com/yqFMpY8S [23:33] Though I doubt that is linked.. [23:33] these are the extracted files [23:33] now for the hole dvd [23:33] OK Two secs.. Will compare to mine [23:34] I don't have all the versions of Riven though.. [23:34] i'm not sure if these are all files, some might be missing, but both a_data.mhk and b_data.mhk reference tspit [23:34] (only a_data.mhk gets loaded though) [23:35] You may have a unknown version of some kind.. What does the detector say when you add the game? No md5sums complaints? [23:35] nope [23:35] Hmm.. [23:36] Two secs.. [23:37] criezy (~criezy@client-86-23-7-224.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined #scummvm. [23:37] #scummvm: mode change '+o criezy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [23:37] Hi [23:38] kreegee: You appear to be missing quite a number of files of *_data.mhk [23:38] clone2727 (~clone2727@lawn-net168-in.rutgers.edu) joined #scummvm. [23:38] #scummvm: mode change '+o clone2727' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [23:38] i.e. b2_data.mhk, g_data.mhk etc. [23:38] CLONE! [23:38] Yes, I see there was some conundrum involving Mohawk going on :P [23:38] ok [23:39] If you can't find them on the DVD, either you have very odd version.. or they are packed in the installers setup cabinets. [23:39] You may need to use unshield or cabextract to extract them... or run the installer in Windows. [23:39] The DVD does not need the installer to be run [23:40] kreegee: For clone2727, please describe the exact version you have... [23:40] found some more files [23:40] german trilogy [23:40] The name of the collection... [23:40] this stupid dvd has the same files in different folders [23:40] kreegee: The sound files? Or the data ones? [23:40] data [23:40] a_data for example is in two directories [23:40] exactly the same file [23:41] Then just take one :-) [23:41] copying the missing stuff now [23:41] sorry for probably just wasting your time ;) [23:41] Not a waste of time.. I'm watching Inspector Morse... [23:41] The following directories allow Riven to be played directly [23:41] // from the DVD. [23:41] (from riven.cpp) [23:41] ;) [23:42] oh [23:42] lets try something [23:42] FreeTHX (~freethx@freethx.iutv.org) joined #scummvm. [23:50] kreegee: You're still getting "[22:59] Could not load stack tspit! " ? [23:50] kreegee: You need t_Data1.mhk, t_Data2.mhk, and t_Sounds.mhk for tspit [23:51] The reference to "tspit" in the a_Data.mhk file is how aspit knows to get to tspit (via the NAME resource) [23:51] ok [23:51] this dvd only has t_Data, no t_data1 or 2 [23:52] That's fine [23:52] anyway [23:52] its working now ;) [23:53] kreegee: As for your codec question, Riven doesn't need any more. Only Myst Masterpiece Edition does (SVQ1, SVQ3, QDM2). QDM2 is almost in working condition [23:56] ok, thx [23:56] as said, just playing around and looking if i come across a bug which i might fix myself (and implementing a codec is probably not a part of that set) [23:58] Action: digitall starts twitching at mention of the codec of doom... [23:58] kreegee: One thing that you could do is implement a more complete version of the movie display matrix within QuickTime [23:59] (qt_player.cpp:588 and 684) [00:00] --- Thu Sep 2 2010