ScummVM IRC Log - 21 Jan 2012

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[00:01] <notajf> on ScummVM maybe?
[00:01] <notajf> ;)
[00:02] <lskovlun> I was positively surprised by Realms of the Haunting (from GOG)
[00:02] <lskovlun> it's an odd blend of FPS and adventure
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[00:07] <syke> on the plane, my mom and I played a game called Painted
[00:07] <syke> which had great art, and decent puzzles
[00:07] <syke> that was on iPad
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[00:11] <notajf> syke: NOOO
[00:11] <notajf> DON'T BE PULLED INTO THE APPLE BRANDING SYSTEM
[00:12] <notajf> SAY
[00:12] <notajf> ON MY APPLE(R) IPAD(R) TABLET COMPUTING DEVICE
[00:12] <notajf> NOT ON IPAD
[00:12] <notajf> AND YOU SHALL BE SAVED FROM THE EVIL DEAMONS, THE GHOST OF STEVE
[00:12] <notajf> er. sorry. just had to get that out of me.
[00:14] <syke> alrighty, then.
[00:16] <notajf> this is something I just dislike about Apple, they abuse trademarks
[00:16] <lskovlun> 'night
[00:16] <notajf> unlike, say, LEGO or Adboe
[00:16] <notajf> goodnight lskovlun
[00:16] <syke> night, lars!
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[00:43] <dhewg> woo, webos compiled two files
[00:43] <dhewg> thats two more than before!
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[00:57] <LordHoto> dhewg: great progress :-P
[01:00] <dhewg> i know, heh
[01:00] <dhewg> well its prolly the toolchain setup
[01:00] <dhewg> if i understood correctly, that never worked before
[01:01] <LordHoto> I'm pretty sure webos compiled fine before
[01:01] <dhewg> digitall mentioned the toolchain didnt work since an update due to an incompatible glibc
[01:02] <LordHoto> hm, I think the build broke after some changes were committed, which required an more recent version of the SDK
[01:07] <digitall> Yes, I think you need to switch the PDK/SDK to the newer versions... They are already on the box... Just a case of moving/linking the new toolchain in.
[01:07] <LordHoto> .oO(was that actually correctly written english?)
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[01:18] <digitall> LordHoto: If you are referring to my last sentence, that was perfectly sane english syntax. Why?
[01:20] <LordHoto> I was talking about my last sentence.
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[01:36] <CIA-26> dhewg * r56230 /buildbot/config/master.cfg: BUILDBOT: Fix path to debian x86_64 toolchain
[01:38] <CIA-26> dhewg * r56231 /buildbot/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BUILDBOT: Sync debian x86 builder name with x86_64
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[03:10] <CIA-26> Paul Gilbert master * rcb1eaf4 / (3 files): TSAGE: Implemented R2R Scene 160 - Credits - http://git.io/SlqhVQ
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[08:46] <CIA-26> Paul Gilbert master * rd62e1f2 / engines/tsage/ringworld2/ringworld2_scenes0.cpp : TSAGE: Fix parenthesis in R2R scene 160 - http://git.io/KQ_pVg
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[09:32] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with cb1eaf41: Success: master-webos, master-gp2xwiz, master-osx_ppc, master-debian-x86_64. Nice work, all ports built fine now
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[10:29] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with cb1eaf41: Failure: master-wince
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[11:47] <sirlemonhead> hi guys
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[12:56] <Endy> Re: Buildbot - i still intend to email an offer through, but been crazy last few days at linux.conf.au and haven't yet. Soz :)
[12:57] <dhewg> the buildbot
[12:57] <salty-horse> the buildbot
[12:58] <dhewg> im currently watching it, ~30min for a full build
[12:58] <dhewg> according to that we need 48 cores with 2tb of ram
[12:58] <dhewg> can you make that happen?
[12:58] <Endy> dhewg: Not for free :P
[12:58] <dhewg> awww come on
[12:58] <Endy> But I can contribute at least 4 cores (2xdual-xeon) with some gb of ram heh
[12:59] <dhewg> ;)
[12:59] <dhewg> sounds awesome, but i'll let others decide if we wanna move
[12:59] <Endy> I'm suggesting supplimental capacity, not necc a full move.
[12:59] <Endy> Can't help to have some redundancy :)
[13:00] <Endy> er, hurt
[13:00] <dhewg> ah
[13:00] <Endy> dhewg: Purely because I feel less resistance for adding capacity ;)
[13:00] <dhewg> the more the better, right?
[13:00] <Endy> Aye.
[13:02] <Endy> I hear the current host may need some debian sysadmin love, so offeing that too :P
[13:02] <dhewg> i got a little bored and moved our current vm to squeeze yesterday :P
[13:03] <Endy> Ah cool :)
[13:03] <dhewg> was less painful than i expected
[13:03] <nutron|h> Endy, lovin' the debian? You sir have just gone up in respect status imho...
[13:03] <Endy> Its usually pretty smooth.
[13:03] <dhewg> i mean those upgrade are mostly painless, but with that pile of hacked toolchains you'll never know
[13:04] <Endy> I pushed some systems from unofficial amd-64 sarge to squeeze a monthago. Apart from some manual dpkg status-file hacking, even that worked mostly ok.
[13:04] <Endy> nutron|h: Thanks ;)
[13:04] <Endy> nutron|h: Debian ftw!
[13:05] <dhewg> +1
[13:05] <dhewg> i didnt have to resort to dpkg hacking though
[13:05] <dhewg> got scared for a second while / ran out of space during the libc update though
[13:06] <Endy> Eek, thats about the only place it can fubar badly too - fhew
[13:06] <dhewg> yeah, i let apt continue, it failed for a few packages while i rm'ed other package in another screen
[13:07] <dhewg> it picked up libc again without ending the process ;)
[13:07] <Endy> ;)
[13:08] <dhewg> thank god i used `screen`
[13:09] <Endy> screen has saved my life almost as often as my IRC session
[13:10] <Endy> Anyhow, just past midnight so hitting the sack.
[13:10] <Endy> Gotta be fresh to pack for my flight back to perth tonight!
[13:11] <Endy> Nite :)
[13:11] <dhewg> cya
[13:11] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with d62e1f28: Failure: master-webos
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[14:07] <dhewg> does anyone know about that webos toolchain mess on buildbot?
[14:07] <fuzzie> well
[14:08] <fuzzie> I know that digitall tried switching to the new binaries only, and it didn't work, so nothing else got switched.
[14:08] <fuzzie> You switched it entirely to the new toolchain now?
[14:08] <dhewg> i thought so
[14:08] <dhewg> there's a PalmPDK folder
[14:08] <dhewg> toolchain als the webos sdk as it looks
[14:08] <fuzzie> isn't that the old one though?
[14:08] <dhewg> but someone messed in there
[14:09] <dhewg> the copy with the new compiler has older headers and libs
[14:09] <fuzzie> yes
[14:09] <fuzzie> that's what i mean, 'to the new binaries only'
[14:10] <dhewg> there're tons of subdirs
[14:10] <dhewg> i really dont know what to move where
[14:12] <fuzzie> i thought digitall had explained it to me at some point, but if so I didn't keep the log, so I am unhelpful
[14:13] <dhewg> grep for "arm-gcc"
[14:14] <fuzzie> i thought the /webos/PalmPDK stuff was the old stuff and the newer stuff was elsewhere, but if it's all mixed in subdirs instead then clearly I have no clue
[14:15] <dhewg> same boat then
[14:15] <fuzzie> not sure I would worry about it given it's been broken for so long :)
[14:15] <dhewg> at least the new toolchain in executable now
[14:16] <fuzzie> yeah, as long as it potentially works then it's easy enough to patch up, even by just deleting the whole thing and uploading a correct PDK/SDK
[14:16] <fuzzie> so, gold star for you :)
[14:16] <dhewg> heh
[14:16] <dhewg> well, im not sure, but it looks like additional libs were put in there for scummvm
[14:16] <dhewg> so when i say mess i mean mess :P
[14:17] <fuzzie> yes, but apparently the instructions to build that stuff is fine with latest PDK too?
[14:17] <dhewg> dunno
[14:18] <fuzzie> I guess it would be nice to make libfaad work for that too.
[14:18] <dhewg> i see flac and mad in PalmPDK/device/usr/lib/
[14:19] <dhewg> that prolly not part of the vanilla pdk
[14:19] <fuzzie> yes
[14:19] <fuzzie> i mean, the WebOS build instructions has instructions for that and zlib and etc
[14:19] <fuzzie> which all supposedly works fine on newest pdk too.
[14:20] <dhewg> ah right, the build intructions use the device/usr/ prefix
[14:21] <dhewg> oh god
[14:22] <dhewg> the palm site you have to use "dpkg -i --force-architecture" on x86_64
[14:22] <fuzzie> native 64-bit builds are hard, let's play pretend!
[14:22] <dhewg> and mess up the system too while we're at it!
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[15:06] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with d62e1f28: Success: master-wince
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[15:24] <CIA-26> dhewg master * rfd87421 / configure :
[15:24] <CIA-26> CONFIGURE: Don't use -pedantic for WebOS
[15:24] <CIA-26> This fixes Tremor autodetection.
[15:24] <CIA-26> tremor/config_types.h typedefs ogg_int64_t, which errors out with
[15:24] <CIA-26> "ISO C++ 1998 does not support long long" when using -pedantic. - http://git.io/3cGMSg
[15:24] <CIA-26> dhewg master * r3dca6fe / configure :
[15:24] <CIA-26> CONFIGURE: Add WebOS --sysroot to CXXFLAGS
[15:24] <CIA-26> Fixes compilation with PDK 3.0.5 (libc headers were now found). - http://git.io/YE2Y2A
[15:24] <fuzzie> nice
[15:24] <dhewg> now we just have to wait for 20h :P
[15:25] <dhewg> but i still dont know what that old PDK folder was
[15:25] <dhewg> i just got the vanilla 3.0.5, copied the scummvm libs over, and tested it
[15:25] <LordHoto> I don't think it takes 20h though :-P
[15:26] <dhewg> that works
[15:26] <dhewg> but the old PDK folder contained a newer toolchain than 3.0.5
[15:26] <dhewg> codesourcery
[15:28] <dhewg> oh right, shouldnt take that long this time
[15:28] <dhewg> i wiped the ccache yesterday due to the system update
[15:28] <dhewg> that took ages for all ports
[15:29] <LordHoto> hehe
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[15:31] <fuzzie> which builds take 30min for a full rebuild btw?
[15:32] <dhewg> psp
[15:32] <dhewg> http://buildbot.scummvm.org/builders/master-psp/builds/1/steps/compile/logs/stdio
[15:32] <dhewg> elapsedTime=1823.697329
[15:32] <dhewg> but that was with an empty ccache
[15:33] <dhewg> might be related to the new engines?
[15:33] <dhewg> i updated my tree the first time in ages and got 3 new onces, heh
[15:34] <fuzzie> i imagine binary size ( http://pastebin.com/iVPu0mH1 ) is a reasonable approximation of build time blame
[15:34] <fuzzie> and thus observe how it is everyone's fault except mine
[15:35] <dhewg> whoa
[15:35] <dhewg> 4mb?
[15:35] <dhewg> also wtf LordHoto
[15:35] <dhewg> kyra on #2?
[15:35] <LordHoto> it was on #1 since quite some time, till tsage took over with even more hardcoded parts than kyra ;-P
[15:35] <dhewg> hehe
[15:35] <fuzzie> scumm was #1 before tsage
[15:36] <fuzzie> in terms of binary size
[15:36] <fuzzie> kyra needed the EoB merge to hop those last spots!
[15:36] <LordHoto> hm really last time I checked kyra was higher, but that might've been a non stripped, non optimized build
[15:36] <dhewg> apropros kyra: engines/kyra/sprites_eob.cpp:78: warning: array subscript is above array bounds
[15:36] <dhewg> didnt look at it, but thats from the same psp log
[15:36] <fuzzie> if you don't strip then it's all rearranged quite a bit
[15:37] <fuzzie> also inflated by something ridiculous like 10x
[15:37] <LordHoto> dhewg: looks like a simple typo
[15:37] <LordHoto> _athrxx: ^
[15:37] <dhewg> another one: engines/sci/sound/drivers/cms.cpp:279: warning: array subscript is below array bounds
[15:38] <fuzzie> tsage really is quite painful compile-time-wise
[15:38] <LordHoto> that looks like a false positive though
[15:38] <LordHoto> I mean it's obviously checking that address >= 16 in the if condition and then does address - 16 for the access
[15:39] <LordHoto> so it shouldn't get below 0 really
[15:39] <fuzzie> am surprised at how painful link times for kyra/tsage are too
[15:42] <fuzzie> so, a full optimised build of 32-bit scummvm on a random lowest-end ($20/month) linode took 17min, with I/O being a huge bottleneck (only 7min cpu used). ouch.
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[15:45] <dhewg> you probably do not want to check the i/o stats on our vm then
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[15:47] <fuzzie> well, i was just wondering if it'd be a trivial solution to hook up some buildslaves
[15:47] <dhewg> not without some effort
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[15:48] <dhewg> the current builtbot setup was made for all-slaves-on-master-box
[15:48] <dhewg> so with remote slaves we'd need to extend then, like the resulting package needs to be transfered to the master
[15:49] <dhewg> and all slaves currently use a relative path to the src, with remotes every slave needs its own clone
[15:54] Action: dhewg raises an eyebrow
[15:54] <dhewg> engines/gob/minigames/geisha/penetration.o
[15:54] <DrMcCoy> Yes.
[15:54] <DrMcCoy> The Geisha minigame, Penetration
[15:54] <dhewg> ah, right. you.
[15:54] <DrMcCoy> dhewg: Blame Coktel Vision :P
[15:54] <dhewg> excuses!
[15:55] <DrMcCoy> dhewg: http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/geisha/screenshots/gameShotId,14652/
[15:56] <dhewg> consider me disappointed
[15:56] <DrMcCoy> :P
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[16:15] <LunaVorax> Drugs and Game design weirdly mix apparently
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[16:17] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 3dca6fe2: Success: master-webos. Nice work, all ports built fine now
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[16:18] <dhewg> weeee
[16:18] <sirlemonhead> ScummBot is pleased
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[16:19] <sirlemonhead> there shall be no smiting today
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[16:22] <salty-horse> DrMcCoy, how many times has that screenshot been pasted here?
[16:22] <DrMcCoy> Dunno
[16:22] <DrMcCoy> Why?
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[16:47] <DJWillis> dhewg: any problem with me adding OpenPandora to buildbot? Thanks to the 'tweaks' ;) the toolchain seems to now work fine and is already living in /opt/toolchains/arm-angstrom-openpandora
[16:48] <DJWillis> Just worried about punishing the poor thing even more ;)
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[16:50] <dhewg> DJWillis: buildbot just left the state of emergency, so knock yourself out
[16:52] <DJWillis> dhewg: lol, cool, great bit of work, will try and do it later, something just cropped up so won't be doing it right away.
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[17:28] <CIA-26> djwillis * r56232 /buildbot/config/master.cfg: BUILDBOT: Re-enable OpenPandora toolchain support.
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[17:36] <dhewg> DJWillis: still fiddling? or should i restart buildbot so it picks up those changes?
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[17:37] <DJWillis> dhewg: it should work, working locally with my take on the config but your welcome to restart whenever as there is no rush.
[17:38] <dhewg> if the changes are active it will compile on the next change
[17:38] <dhewg> so lets see if it goes up in smoke?
[17:38] <DJWillis> works for me ;)
[17:39] <dhewg> and i think i saw another whitespace error in ./configure :P
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[17:42] <CIA-26> dhewg master * rcc98a1a / backends/events/webossdl/webossdl-events.cpp :
[17:42] <CIA-26> WEBOS: Fix whitespace error
[17:42] <CIA-26> Random whitespace fix to kick off the OpenPandora toolchain on
[17:42] <CIA-26> buildbot. - http://git.io/UqFFRQ
[17:45] <dhewg> looks good ;)
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[18:26] <CIA-26> Johannes Schickel master * r1758845 / engines/kyra/sprites_eob.cpp :
[18:26] <CIA-26> KYRA: Fix out of bounds access caused by a typo.
[18:26] <CIA-26> Thanks to dhewg for pointing this one out. - http://git.io/ML4DUQ
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[22:42] <nutron> Nothing like Children of Bodom, Linkin Park and In Flames to wake me up.
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