ScummVM IRC Log - 15 May 2012

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[00:28] <DrMcCoy> !seen fuzzie
[00:28] <DrMcCoy> Grml
[00:28] <clone2727> !list
[00:28] <DrMcCoy> clone2727: A list of the supported games can be found here: http://www.scummvm.org/compatibility.php
[00:28] <DrMcCoy> Yes, yes, that's my trigger :P
[00:29] <DrMcCoy> And it's really weird how for me, that answer appears /before/ the !list :P
[00:31] <[md5]> !list
[00:31] <DrMcCoy> [md5]: A list of the supported games can be found here: http://www.scummvm.org/compatibility.php
[00:31] <[md5]> :p
[00:31] <DrMcCoy> ...
[00:32] <[md5]> let the spam fest begin!
[00:32] <[md5]> guess not :(
[00:32] <DrMcCoy> I should add an automatic /kickban too
[00:33] <[md5]> "Hi DrMcCoy!" "You have been kicked out of #scummvm (do not salute me, ever!!!11)"
[00:34] <clone2727> I don't think DrMcCoy would mind people saluting him, bowing to him, giving him money, etc.
[00:34] <DrMcCoy> I prefer cake, though
[00:34] <clone2727> you can use money to buy cake
[00:34] <DrMcCoy> I prefer self-made cake, though
[00:36] <clone2727> to buy ingredients for cake
[00:36] <DrMcCoy> Well, I mean self-made by other people
[00:36] <DrMcCoy> I want other people to give me cake they made
[00:36] <clone2727> how is that different from buying cake?
[00:38] <DrMcCoy> Buying cake gives me either machine-produced cake (meh), or professional baker made cake (good, sure, but not what I want). I want something cake from people who are not professional bakers, warts (not literally) and all
[00:38] <DrMcCoy> s/something//
[00:38] <clone2727> I can add warts to cake if you want, that's no problem
[00:39] <DrMcCoy> ...
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[00:42] <[md5]> http://realmccoycakes.blogspot.com/
[00:43] <clone2727> DrMcCoy has too many cake blogs
[00:43] <[md5]> yeah :p the cake doctor
[00:43] <DrMcCoy> Not mine, though
[00:44] <clone2727> DrMcCoy: sure...
[00:44] <DrMcCoy> That one is mine: http://drmccoy.de/cakesmacked/
[00:45] <[md5]> how about that shop? are you secretly selling cakes?
[00:45] <[md5]> http://www.trademarkia.com/mccoys-cake--pie-shop-74523051.html
[00:45] <DrMcCoy> ...
[00:45] Action: DrMcCoy goes to sleep now, lest he'll slap [md5] :P
[00:45] <[md5]> (nice cake, btw!)
[00:45] Action: [md5] hides from DrMcCoy's sleepy slaps :P
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[00:46] <[md5]> I'm off to bed too, that was enough cake fun for today
[00:47] <[md5]> nn!
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[03:53] <timofonic> Woot. Wozniak comes to open Apple after Steve's death? Open Source Apple? http://www.itnews.com.au/News/300704,wozniak-calls-for-open-apple.aspx
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[05:21] <nutron> Can I ask if people who use IDA actually had to pay $1000 ? Or do they offer a discount to projects such as this?
[05:27] <timofonic> uhm... http://toucharcade.com/2010/10/26/idos/
[05:28] <timofonic> (the screenshots make me wonder about an "IfictionVM", an evolution of Gargoyle)
[05:30] <timofonic> http://code.google.com/p/garglk/source/list
[05:30] <timofonic> But, uhm...
[05:30] <timofonic> Missing oldie parsers...
[05:38] <LePhilousophe> nutron: there is a free version of IDA
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[05:39] <nutron> LePhilousophe: aye, I know, but seems really limited and I'm 100% linux so :/
[05:41] <LePhilousophe> yep
[05:41] <LePhilousophe> so I don't know :)
[05:41] <LePhilousophe> for the few debug I do, I use OllyDbg on Wine
[05:41] <LePhilousophe> that kind of work
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[06:56] <Strangerke> hi guys
[07:01] <_sev> hi
[07:18] <digitall> Good Morning
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[10:58] <Strangerke> Damn, dreammaster left early today :/
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[12:19] <fuzzie> Oh nice, AGS is fully open source now. I missed that.
[12:31] <alexbevi> fuzzie: does that mean we can get the source for versions < 3.2?
[12:32] <fuzzie> no, not at all
[12:32] <alexbevi> :(
[12:33] <fuzzie> Honestly it's not too difficult to spot the differences in the disassembly for most of it though.
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[12:33] <alexbevi> i'll have to take your word for it
[12:34] <fuzzie> No huge masses of spare time to volunteer in? :-)
[12:34] <alexbevi> lol
[12:34] <alexbevi> i'm having a hard enough time to spend time on my sf.net => redmine porting
[12:34] <alexbevi> and i'm a ruby developer :P
[12:35] <fuzzie> alas :(
[12:36] <alexbevi> if only there were an easy way to free(_time); in real life :P
[12:41] <digitall> delete _job; works well.
[12:42] <alexbevi> i tried that, but the i got stuck in an infinite loop of debt++ :P
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[12:43] <is0-mick> hi
[12:44] <is0-mick> im trying to port scummvm to the vtech innotab
[12:44] <is0-mick> but i have a couple of questions
[12:44] <is0-mick> if anyone can help
[12:44] <is0-mick> http://i.imgur.com/GJ55d.jpg
[12:44] <is0-mick> work in progress...
[12:45] <digitall> Yes....
[12:45] <is0-mick> just regarding screen modes, im using SDL and a modified samsungtv backend
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[12:46] <is0-mick> i've had to change the sdl to use the innotabs hardware
[12:46] <is0-mick> but, i was getting segfaults as scumm vm was requesting 640x400
[12:46] <is0-mick> so i had to add 1x on the command line
[12:46] <is0-mick> i only have 480 x272 hardware resolution
[12:46] <is0-mick> at 16bpp
[12:47] <is0-mick> but the colour depth looks wrong on my picture
[12:47] <digitall> None of that is a question..
[12:48] <is0-mick> correct.. i was just about to ask
[12:48] <digitall> You are the same person as reddwarf ?
[12:48] <is0-mick> what modes does scummvm need
[12:48] <is0-mick> no
[12:48] <digitall> See http://logs.scummvm.org/log.php?log=scummvm.log.10May2012&format=html
[12:49] <digitall> Odd that we have two enquiries about V-Tech Innotab in one day...
[12:49] <digitall> I can't see any public information on homebrew for it... Is it a Linux device? Android?
[12:50] <digitall> What modes is an open question... It would depend on the games.
[12:51] <digitall> Most of the original SCUMM games are 320x200 in 1x output... but the default is to scale up if the screen area is available...
[12:51] <is0-mick> linux
[12:51] <digitall> Then where is the homebrew source code page.... or is V-Tech in GPL violation?
[12:52] <is0-mick> there isnt any info on homebrew for it
[12:52] <is0-mick> i only recently hacked into the thing
[12:52] <is0-mick> so this would actually be the first afaik
[12:52] <is0-mick> i think they are in violation
[12:52] <is0-mick> there was a mention of a page in the downloadable pdf manual
[12:52] <is0-mick> but the page doesnt exist!
[12:53] <digitall> I suspected as much... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-Tech#History shows they have a nasty relationship wrt.
[12:53] <digitall> being duplicitous with regard to Reverse Engineering and IP... See Laser 128
[12:54] <is0-mick> well its running busybox
[12:54] <is0-mick> and a whole load of other gpl stuff
[12:55] <is0-mick> not sure if its using uboot for the bootloader
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[12:55] <is0-mick> haven't pulled that bootloader apart
[12:55] <is0-mick> the*
[12:55] <is0-mick> not sure if you saw the picture of what i have running so far, but i think the colours are wrong?
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[12:56] <is0-mick> i still need to figure out the touch input and the sound device
[12:57] <is0-mick> i remember our older kids used to enjoy playing putt putt and fatty bear, so I thought a port of scummvm would be a good addition to the device :)
[12:57] <clone2727> :)
[12:57] <clone2727> always good to see some humongous love still :P
[12:57] <is0-mick> lol
[12:57] <is0-mick> i used to run them on an old 486 at the time
[12:57] <digitall> Well, Kudos for working on it... but at 70 GBP, it is hardly a cheap device... and not being very open..

[12:58] <digitall> But if you make progress, putting up a page for homebrew work on the device would be interesting... but out of ScummVM scope.

[12:59] <is0-mick> does the picture i posted look wrong (colour wise) ?
[13:00] <digitall> Not much to me... You can compare on a desktop by choosing the Classic, rather than Modern theme.
[13:00] <is0-mick> i think its trying to draw 24bit or such on a 16bit surface?
[13:00] <is0-mick> i compiled with disable facny themes
[13:00] <is0-mick> fancy*
[13:00] <is0-mick> not that im an expert on scumm vm, as its pretty much the first time i've used it :p
[13:00] <digitall> Well... as I said, run the same code on your desktop and compare the output.
[13:00] <is0-mick> good idea
[13:01] <digitall> OK... We also have 3-4 freeware (liberated) games which you can download and use with ScummVM... so you can test with those.
[13:01] <is0-mick> at the moment i have all engines disabled
[13:01] <is0-mick> as i was getting an executable of around 70mb
[13:01] <is0-mick> and 28mb stripped
[13:02] <is0-mick> is that right?
[13:02] <is0-mick> with no engines its about 7mb and 2.3 stripped
[13:02] <Hkz> at least being linux based i think it won't have many problems using engines compiled as plugins...
[13:03] <is0-mick> i'll have to have a look into that.. as im a scummvm noob
[13:03] <digitall> http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Category:Freeware_Games lists freeware games
[13:04] <digitall> http://www.scummvm.org/downloads/#extras lists them for download... Try Beneath a Steel Sky and Flight of the Amazon Queen (I would suggest)
[13:04] <digitall> Sky and Queen engine respectively.
[13:05] <digitall> ./configure --disable-all-engines --enable-engines=sky,queen && make clean && make
[13:05] <DrMcCoy> + gob
[13:05] <DrMcCoy> I don't know what you
[13:05] <DrMcCoy> 're talking about
[13:05] <DrMcCoy> But you always need gob :P
[13:06] <digitall> Add --enable-plugins --default-dyamic to build as plugins... but you need to do "make plugins-clean" IIRC
[13:06] <digitall> And ignore the mad Gob developer... none of the Gob games are freeware... :)
[13:06] <DrMcCoy> :(
[13:06] Action: digitall huggles DrMcCoy
[13:06] <clone2727> Only because the games aren't freeware?
[13:07] <clone2727> I have many reasons why to ignore him :P
[13:07] <DrMcCoy> :(
[13:07] Action: digitall wonders if we can form a Three Stooges Tribute act :)
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[13:13] <is0-mick> just on a side note, DOTT was one of my favorite games :) .. I actually built my first PC to play it!.. which was a 386sx16
[13:13] <is0-mick> with an adlib sound card lol
[13:14] <digitall> I think DOTT was one of the first point and click I played... though the first would probably be
[13:14] <digitall> Sherlock Holmes and the Serrated Scapel on a friend's 286
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[21:22] <CIA-136> Jonathan Gray master * r8cfe25c / (5 files in 4 dirs): MIDI: add sndio midi backend - http://git.io/ZimnCg
[21:22] <CIA-136> Johannes Schickel master * r452b951 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Merge pull request #238 from jonathangray/sndio_midi - http://git.io/aMDDqg
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[21:39] <TMM> hey md5 if you read this could you ping me please?
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