ScummVM IRC Log - 02 May 2012

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[01:41] <risca> I'm currently experimenting with Death Gate and reverse engineering it for ScummVM. I gotta have something to do during the summer, so why not hack around with my favourite VM =)
[01:43] <risca> I've concluded that all music of the game is saved uncompressed in DGATE001.MUS. From inspection it looks like XMI format http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/index.php?title=XMI
[01:44] <risca> What's the best approach when it comes to extracting it?
[01:45] <risca> Should I look for "FORM" and "FF 2F" and then save everything in between?
[01:45] <risca> Sorry, "FORM" and 0xFF2F
[01:46] <LordHoto> When you reverse engineer it, you could just RE the format of that .MUS file and write some proper extraction routine.
[01:47] <risca> Ah, I could probably do that too
[01:47] <risca> What "music" formats do ScummVM support?
[01:47] <risca> I guess I could look that up
[01:47] <LordHoto> There's some code for parsing XMIDI files.
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[01:48] <risca> First, I just want to experiment and see what's what
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[01:49] <risca> It's a first step to be able to listen to the xmidi =)
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[01:56] <tmx1> i found residualVM to crash on the same point over and over on Fandango
[01:57] <LordHoto> tmx1: The residual specific channel is at #residualvm (I think)
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[02:03] <tmx1> k
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[06:46] <Strangerke> hi guys
[06:46] <madmoose> hi Strangerke and others
[07:01] <wjp> morning
[07:03] <aquadran> hi
[07:09] Action: wjp watches jakimushka's kyra video
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[07:11] <wjp> ok, better not do that, I guess :-)

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[07:30] <Strangerke> wjp: Which video is it?
[07:35] <wjp> http://jakimushka.blogspot.com/2012/05/my-first-success.html#more
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[08:56] <vendu> hmm
[08:56] <vendu> hello :)
[08:56] <Strangerke> hi vendu
[08:57] Action: vendu notes scummvm and sdl are high on the list of stuff to be ported to his project os later :)
[08:57] <vendu> hey Strangerke, what's shakin'? :)
[08:57] <Strangerke> not much... not much
[08:57] <vendu> hehe
[08:57] <Strangerke> Still progressing on my Robin's engine...
[08:58] <vendu> Strangerke, i've been implementing parts of the c math library (usually libm) :)
[08:58] <Strangerke> (thanks to SylvainTV, obviously)
[08:58] Nick change: friggle_ -> friggle
[08:58] <vendu> Strangerke, learned some i387 fpu assembly to do basic trig and other stuff :)
[08:58] <vendu> Strangerke, sin, cos, tan, atan, etc.
[08:58] <vendu> Strangerke, the gnu extension sincos() can be done with very few i387 instructions too :)
[08:59] <vendu> fsincos calculates both sine and cosine at once :)
[08:59] <vendu> Strangerke, i need to add more stuff for ieee 754 compliance :)
[08:59] <vendu> Strangerke, how much do you know about the internals of scummvm?
[09:00] <vendu> Strangerke, i think i'll figure out something non-x for zero at some point
[09:00] <vendu> Strangerke, so i should probably provide scummvm with a backend for using it :)
[09:00] <vendu> Strangerke, something network-enabled, of course
[09:01] <Strangerke> If 'internals' include engines, I can help...
[09:02] <Strangerke> if it's the common code... just enough to use it, but that's pretty all
[09:02] <vendu> Strangerke, know any sdl?
[09:02] <vendu> Strangerke, i suppose sdl might be where to work at later :)
[09:02] <Strangerke> I wrote a game or two in C based on SDL, that's pretty all
[09:03] <Strangerke> (and of course I didn't finish those,... tsk)
[09:06] <vendu> Strangerke, i'll let you know if i roll my sleeves concerning sdl or anything :)
[09:06] <vendu> Strangerke, quite a bit of work on the kernel to actually get stuff running, but it's starting up nicely :)
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[09:07] <Strangerke> Are you still making progress, btw? Because your last commit seems to be more than 3 months old
[09:09] <vendu> Strangerke, ah, look at http://vendu.twodots.nl/zero.html instead :)
[09:09] <vendu> the latest work is not on github (yet?) :)
[09:09] <vendu> Strangerke, i'm basically revamping what i had in git :)
[09:09] <vendu> cleaning stuff up, testing stuff better, etc.
[09:09] <vendu> redesigning, reorganising, etc.
[09:10] <vendu> so not all features present on github are in yet
[09:10] <Strangerke> tsk... I wish you won't have a HDD failure
[09:10] <vendu> but i'll import and implement as need be :)
[09:10] <vendu> Strangerke, it's on my friend's dad's server too :)
[09:10] <vendu> Strangerke, i wonder which fs to use initially
[09:10] <vendu> berkeley fast might be good :)
[09:10] <vendu> i.e. ffs/ufs :)
[09:11] <Strangerke> FAT-16 FTW! \o/
[09:11] <vendu> i could most likely import freebsd's implementation of ufs as i'm berkeley-licensed to begin with :)
[09:11] <vendu> Strangerke, why reimplement that wheel? =P
[09:11] <vendu> as far as i know, freebsd should be good and solid code for the most part :)
[09:12] <vendu> and i'd think ffs implementation would have been ironed out during the last couple of decades anyway :)
[09:16] <vendu> Strangerke, fat will be done too
[09:16] <vendu> may different filesystems :)
[09:16] <vendu> Strangerke, but i'm eager to try ffs as the base/initial root filesystem :)
[09:16] <vendu> Strangerke, iso9660 cd/dvd support soon to access boot cd's etc. :)
[09:19] <vendu> Strangerke, if such projects interest you, welcome to #oszero :)
[09:19] <vendu> or just for some friendly chat, welcome :)
[09:20] <Strangerke> To be honest, it's a bit too low-level for me
[09:20] <vendu> Strangerke, it's a small channel at the moment, i would hope for more traffic :)
[09:20] <vendu> it's a general channel, no such thing as off-topic :P
[09:23] <vendu> i have a bootable ia-32 kernel with most of virtual memory done :)
[09:23] <vendu> nice pieces of libc (the malloc-allocator is my item of pride) :)
[09:23] <vendu> i'm getting started with fpu / math / ieee 754 stuff :)
[09:23] <vendu> there are a few ideas/plans for games
[09:23] <vendu> and so forth
[09:24] <vendu> Strangerke, but this is off-topic here so welcome to #oszero if you wish :)
[09:24] <vendu> sorry for being off-topic :)
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[09:25] <Strangerke> Well, indeed, it's offtopic ;)
[09:26] <Strangerke> Why don't you RE a bit, for the fun?
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[09:44] <Strangerke> hi woo
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[10:05] <dreammaster> risca: I know you're not about, but if you read the logs later, I do know that JohnDoe123 did some preliminary work on reverse engineering Death Gate. He didn't get far, but it might be useful starting point for your own further RE work.
[10:08] <dreammaster> Anyone familiar with create_project parameters? I wanted to use create_project to create an MSVC project file with all engines enabled except sword25 (and I don't want to manually modify the configure file, because that would show up as a Git change)
[10:09] <dreammaster> When I use parameters --enable-all-egines --disable-sword25 , create_project keeps complaining that 'sword25' isn't a feature. Yet the create_project help specifically says that '--disable-engine' will disable building of the engine with the name "engine"'
[10:10] <wjp> configure changed to --disable-engine=sword25. Maybe create_project followed suit?
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[10:11] <dreammaster> Ah. That did it, thanks. Looks like create_project's help hasn't been updated accordingly
[10:11] <dreammaster> I guess most people using it just use the batch files, and no-one's noticed. :)
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[10:31] <Strangerke> Hum... http://blog.xamarin.com/2012/05/01/android-in-c-sharp/
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[11:06] <ST> Strangerke: o_O
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[11:13] <Strangerke> St: yeah, really...
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[11:13] <Strangerke> ST: And Oracle sucks, too
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[12:00] <waltervn> hi
[12:05] <dreammaster> G'day
[12:05] <LordHoto> hey waltervn
[12:16] <madmoose> ahoy
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[19:09] <CIA-136> D G Turner master * rec10706 / devtools/create_project/create_project.cpp : CREATE_PROJECT: Fix tool help output to reflect command line changes. - http://git.io/FKAsbA
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[21:02] <Strangerke> grumpf
[21:05] <DrMcCoy> :(
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[21:42] <CIA-136> Strangerke * r56283 /web/trunk/data/news/20120502.xml: WEB: Announce Dreamweb
[21:44] <Strangerke> damn, broken :(
[21:44] <Strangerke> What's wrong this time
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[22:05] <CIA-136> mthreepwood * r56284 /web/trunk/data/news/20120502.xml: WEB: Fix closing body tag
[22:06] <Strangerke> thanks clone2727
[22:06] <DrMcCoy> Someone still has to run the update script
[22:06] <DrMcCoy> Ah
[22:06] <DrMcCoy> Okay :P
[22:07] <clone2727> Someone needs to hit refresh :P
[22:07] <DrMcCoy> Is there a way to retrigger the twitter update?
[22:07] <digitall> For anyone who wonders, the first quote is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rime_of_the_Ancient_Mariner
[22:08] <CIA-136> Filippos Karapetis master * rd6bedc8 / engines/agi/saveload.cpp : AGI: Proper handling of the cancel button when saving/loading - http://git.io/jvRv2w
[22:09] <digitall> [md5]: \o/
[22:12] <Strangerke> digitall.... euh...
[22:12] <Strangerke> no
[22:12] <Strangerke> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfNAiPpApx4
[22:12] <Strangerke> ;)
[22:12] <DrMcCoy> :)
[22:14] <digitall> I'm not sure Coleridge would approve... but he was on rather alot of drugs, so shrug! :-)
[22:14] <tmx1> i never understood that music
[22:15] <Strangerke> I love this album
[22:15] <Strangerke> Rime of the ancient mariner and powerslave are incredible
[22:15] <DrMcCoy> tmx1: ?!?
[22:15] <tmx1> head banger music
[22:15] <Strangerke> :o
[22:15] <Strangerke> it's classic rock!
[22:15] <DrMcCoy> What's there to understand? It's the bestest music ever :P
[22:16] <tmx1> its heavy metal
[22:16] <Strangerke> I use that to make my kids fall asleep!
[22:16] <Strangerke> that, and Megadeth
[22:16] <tmx1> i grew up on ABBA
[22:16] <tmx1> lol
[22:16] Action: Strangerke throws a bible at tmx1
[22:17] <Strangerke> Sacrilege!
[22:17] <DrMcCoy> ABBA? O_o
[22:17] <clone2727> he didn't want to take a chance on anything els
[22:17] <clone2727> e
[22:18] <digitall> Oh dear, Another European war... between the Schlager lovers and Death Metallers.. :-)
[22:18] <digitall> Can't we all compromise and just watch Lordi on Eurovision?! :P
[22:18] <Strangerke> Humpf
[22:19] <tmx1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7U0T99DFOE
[22:19] <tmx1> that music lead me to electronica
[22:19] <DrMcCoy> Well, okay, I listen to stuff you don't headbang to too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VDGDsvEnDs :P
[22:20] <Strangerke> DrMcCoy: And guess what... I still listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSkxaEiuB_E
[22:20] <Strangerke> \o/
[22:20] <DrMcCoy> lol
[22:21] <tmx1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHpMdgM0Sb4
[22:21] <tmx1> that i like
[22:21] <DrMcCoy> "Unfortunately, this SME-music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights."
[22:22] <digitall> Sigh... I wonder why they are not selling as many albums... maybe it is because no one can hear the damn music.
[22:22] <DrMcCoy> tmx1: Also: 63 Minutes of Stoner Doom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24pOo5htg9E - Your argument is invalid :P
[22:22] <tmx1> urgh
[22:23] <tmx1> i find it interesting how a human brain prefers certain type of atmospheric frequencies
[22:23] <tmx1> over others
[22:25] <DrMcCoy> I listen to that too, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_nw-z2inQ :P
[22:26] <tmx1> kill me now!
[22:26] Action: LordHoto takes a knife and kills tmx1
[22:26] <digitall> tmx1: If you like Electronica more, you might like this retrogaming inspired stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoGpLl-SUfk
[22:26] <DrMcCoy> tmx1: Nono, that's what the Robotic Warrior is for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiN2F1o2qwY
[22:27] <tmx1> wow in wonder what kind of people make that stuff
[22:27] <tmx1> err I
[22:28] <tmx1> i think if someone heard you listen to that shit 400 years ago you would be branded a witch and burned to the cross
[22:29] <DrMcCoy> Yeah, I don't think VIC-20s were that common back then
[22:30] <tmx1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqEtq34dSUo
[22:31] <DrMcCoy> bleh
[22:31] <tmx1> i dare you to even attempt 10 seconds of those commies do
[22:31] <tmx1> make that 5
[22:32] <DrMcCoy> I don'
[22:32] <DrMcCoy> t consider that a valid use of my time
[22:32] <tmx1> lol
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