ScummVM IRC Log - 01 Feb 2012

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[04:03] <nutron> I gotta lay off playing scummvm games :( it's making me too happy.
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[04:51] <nutron> fuzzie: around?
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[05:58] <_sev> wjp: re buttons losing their 'X'es -- that is matter of that part of MaxRussia which dealt with simplifying the rendering queue. I need to merge that
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[07:07] <fuzzie> nutron: not at 6am, no :)
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[08:08] <Strangerke> hi guys
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[08:09] <fuzzie> morning
[08:11] <dreammaster> G'day
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[08:26] <wjp> hello
[08:26] <wjp> also, brr
[08:26] <fuzzie> indeed
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[08:52] <wjp> _sev: when do you think we/you should cherry-pick some of MaximRussia's changes?
[08:52] <_sev> anytime
[08:52] <wjp> just wondering because it will cause some extremely pretty merge conflicts with my new code :-)
[08:52] <_sev> if you like to do it, feel free
[08:53] <_sev> I could potentially get some time this week
[08:53] <wjp> if you already have a good feeling which of his patches should be picked, could I leave it to you? I'll then fix any merge conflicts with my code afterwards
[08:54] <wjp> or alternatively you can give me a list of patches you think should be merged, and I can take a look
[08:55] <_sev> these are 6f05b13..b9e2da but without 47295 obviously
[08:56] <_sev> there is a lot of experimental crap, reverses and indentation fixes, so the changes have to be squashed down and cleaned up a bit

[08:57] <_sev> tell me if you want me to deal with this mess
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[09:18] <wjp> I'll take a look tonight, and see if it's something I'm comfortable with
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[11:37] <dreammaster> Goodnight :)
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[17:48] <madmoose> bono estende
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[17:51] <wjp> _sev: trying those queue patches from MaximRussia, but the end result is noticably slower/laggier here
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[18:01] <fuzzie> wjp: when I glanced at the patch, it looked like it added a bunch of updateScreen calls which all ended up drawing the dirty rects every time you drew anything
[18:01] <fuzzie> but it was pretty difficult to follow the patches
[18:05] <wjp> ah, in GuiManager::runLoop?
[18:05] <fuzzie> no, in the queueing code
[18:05] <fuzzie> i.e. theme engine
[18:05] <LordHoto> it updates the screen in the queueing code?!?!?
[18:05] <fuzzie> not there? maybe it changed or i misremember
[18:05] <wjp> let me show you a squashed and slightly cleaned up patch
[18:06] <fuzzie> LordHoto: as in, theme engine's updateScreen
[18:06] <fuzzie> and yes please, then I don't have to go look
[18:06] <LordHoto> wasn't the idea to queue the changes and then apply them in one bunch when the GUI updates the screen in runLoop?
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[18:06] <wjp> https://github.com/wjp/scummvm/commit/1f35b0a37dc08c097c6ff8d6b80ca873d12e9a80
[18:06] <fuzzie> right, so yes
[18:07] <fuzzie> updateScreen with true as first param --> drawSelf calls and renderDirtyScreen() --> copyFrame -> copyRectToOverlay calls
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[18:08] <fuzzie> obviously I didn't check to see if that's actually what happened, since it looked so disasterous unsquised
[18:08] <fuzzie> unsquished
[18:08] <fuzzie> but since you have apparently volunteered then I'm sure you will have fun working it out
[18:08] <LordHoto> the change in GuiManager::runLoop looks seriously odd
[18:09] <LordHoto> it shouldn't do those update calls at all there
[18:11] <fuzzie> the sort-of-45fps framerate below seems a bit nutty anyway
[18:11] <fuzzie> so i just stopped looking at that bit
[18:13] <fuzzie> and if I look at where that came from then it's a commit labelled "Theme layout parsing." so I think that was the right choice
[18:18] <CIA-23> Johannes Schickel master * r96853b2 / engines/metaengine.h : ENGINES: Get rid of unnecessary friend in EngineManager. - http://git.io/K5mfvA
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[18:33] <CIA-23> Johannes Schickel master * r1e0de79 / base/plugins.h : BASE: Get rid of unecessary friend in PluginManagerUncached. - http://git.io/tAr-fQ
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[19:46] <_sev> wjp: what do you mean 'slower'? the rendering?
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[20:22] <wjp> so not unnecessary after all I guess :-)
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[20:23] <_sev> wjp: so, aout MaximRussia's commits
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[20:27] <wjp> yes, slower rendering
[20:27] <_sev> weird
[20:28] <_sev> because what it does is putting everything in single queue instead of two
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[20:32] <fuzzie> it isn't just what I was rambling about above?
[20:37] <wjp> I have no idea
[20:37] <fuzzie> I also wonder why bother with the NOW type? since everything is drawn immediately for drawnow==true anyway (and if it weren't, it would leak)
[20:38] <fuzzie> where do you see performance issues?
[20:39] <wjp> text list scrolling
[20:39] <fuzzie> all text lists?
[20:39] <wjp> just tried the launcher
[20:39] <fuzzie> I just wonder because _buffered is set for dialogs
[20:39] <fuzzie> erm, _buffering
[20:40] <fuzzie> and so that would go back to the two-queues system, although maybe it would still draw the launcher text list underneath and so be slow there anyway
[20:41] <fuzzie> but an obvious thing to try would be to change 'if (render)' at the end of updateScreen there to be 'if (render && !drawnow)'
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[20:42] <wjp> that helps
[20:44] <fuzzie> but at the least I would suggest assert()ing that only NOW is present in the drawnow case and there is no NOW present in the !drawnow case, and I don't understand why it bothers with queueing there anyway, so maybe that is unfinished code
[20:46] <fuzzie> also: should 1e0de79 be reverted?
[20:48] <wjp> yes
[20:48] <wjp> protected constructor and no friends?
[20:48] <fuzzie> yes
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[20:49] <CIA-23> Alyssa Milburn master * r31d1ae6 / base/plugins.h :
[20:49] <CIA-23> Revert "BASE: Get rid of unecessary friend in PluginManagerUncached."
[20:49] <CIA-23> This reverts commit 1e0de79cf54f2483c819584033ae3405ea7e8011.
[20:49] <CIA-23> The only available constructor for PluginManagerUncached is
[20:49] <CIA-23> protected, so this broke the builds using it. - http://git.io/rQKyuw
[20:49] <wjp> aren't there warnings for that?
[20:50] <fuzzie> well, it makes sense if you only want to be able to instantiate subclasses, I guess?
[20:51] <fuzzie> but we are clearly instantiating the class directly
[20:51] <fuzzie> and it only works for PluginManager because obviously it's implicitly a friend of itself
[20:52] <fuzzie> (static factory member function)
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[20:55] <syke> y0
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[21:01] <Strangerke> hi syke
[21:01] <syke> sup man
[21:01] <Strangerke> tsage... tsage...
[21:01] <Strangerke> And you?
[21:02] <syke> doing alright, I guess
[21:04] <CIA-23> Strangerke master * r4aa494c / (3 files): TSAGE: R2R - Implement scene 700 - http://git.io/8WIaEg
[21:04] <Strangerke> ... one less
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[21:11] <sirlemonhead> hmm building ScummVM with visual studio seems to be broken
[21:13] <sirlemonhead> i think maybe it hates the version of the platform SDK I have..
[21:13] <wjp> what's going wrong?
[21:14] <sirlemonhead> it's failing to compile scummvm\backends\taskbar\win32\win32-taskbar.cpp in visual studio 2008
[21:14] <sirlemonhead> "error C2065: 'IID_ITaskbarList3' : undeclared identifier"
[21:14] <Strangerke> yep, disable the taskbar
[21:14] <sirlemonhead> k
[21:14] <Strangerke> use --disable-taskbar in create_msvc.bat
[21:15] <sirlemonhead> thanks :)
[21:15] <sirlemonhead> windows 7 thing is it?
[21:15] <Strangerke> maybe... dunno
[21:15] <Strangerke> or obsolete SDK :P
[21:15] <Strangerke> And you can thank fuzzie who told me that so many time I finally remember it O:^)
[21:16] <fuzzie> yes, it is win7 thing
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[21:19] <sirlemonhead> k just compiling now..
[21:26] <syke> Strangerke: I'm fairly certain that layoffs are happening at my work in a few weeks, so I've been preparing for that
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[21:28] <Strangerke> syke: Ow :(
[21:28] <syke> been a long time coming, so we are decently prepared
[21:29] <Strangerke> Well, it's still not fun at the end
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[21:29] <syke> nope
[21:30] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 4aa494c1: Success: master-ds
[21:31] <Strangerke> Well... Good luck, whatever happen :/
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[21:39] <syke> thanks
[21:41] <LordHoto> fuzzie: thanks, must've missed that :-P in general that pluginmanager is a bit odd
[21:42] <fuzzie> yes
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[21:49] <sirlemonhead> when you're implementing the getOriginalCopyright() function, is it (C) of the publisher or developer you put in?
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[21:50] <LordHoto> whoever was listed as copyright owner in the original
[21:50] <CIA-23> sev * r56249 /web/trunk/data/downloads.xml: WEB: Added Symbian builds
[21:50] <sanguine> Hey
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[21:55] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 4aa494c1: Success: master-wii, master-gamecube, master-psp. Nice work, all ports built fine now
[21:57] <sirlemonhead> ok, got the bones of an engine compiling
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[22:47] <Strangerke> Hum.. Whenever I touch a key in Hugo, there's an assert
[22:47] <Strangerke> Could someone test that to confirm the behavior?
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[22:59] <Hkz> Strangerke, confirm
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[22:59] <Strangerke> ok, so we have a very nice regression in 1.4.1, in something that wasn't modified
[22:59] <Strangerke> cool :(
[23:01] <Hkz> i tested on current master branch
[23:01] <Hkz> if this is in 1.4.1 it's bad though :-[
[23:04] <Strangerke> Yep, indeed, I was a bit pessimistic
[23:08] <syke> ok
[23:09] <syke> Strangerke says I should share a preso I'm working on
[23:09] <syke> so, if it's off-topic, flame *him* ;)
[23:12] <Strangerke> Yep
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[23:15] <syke> https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWu19eOay72HZGdjenZkdDZfNXY0bmg3d2ho
[23:16] <syke> Strangerke: happy now? ;)
[23:18] <Strangerke> Yes :) Thanks
[23:18] <Strangerke> I'm also interested by the video :P
[23:19] <syke> it'll just be me talking
[23:19] <syke> here's one I gave a few months ago
[23:19] <syke> https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWu19eOay72HZGdjenZkdDZfM2Q0bmZjdmR0
[23:19] <syke> it started out being about cgreen and mockitopp, but became a little more general
[23:22] <Strangerke> I'll read that tomorrow... But I keep thinking that talking is interesting too, as it gives more details on the subject
[23:23] <Strangerke> I'm tired and frustrated by a bug in tsage... I think I'm going to sleep
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[23:24] <CIA-23> Strangerke master * rc222afc / engines/tsage/ringworld2/ringworld2_scenes0.cpp : TSAGE: R2R - Avoid a crash in scene 700 - http://git.io/d4LhQQ
[23:24] <syke> nite man
[23:25] <Strangerke> Result of Hkz's test: the keyboard issue in Hugo is not in 1.4.1
[23:25] <Strangerke> That's a good news
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